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    Default Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2017

    In February 2017 I started building a website about eneloop batteries called eneloop101.com to get all the information about eneloops in 1 spot.
    There is lots of information including pdf product sheets, pdf eneloop catalogs, complete line-up of Japanese made eneloops, Chinese eneloops, and all the limited editions.

    You can also download this eneloop overview table from my website.

    If you want to know where to buy your eneloops, have a look at my Where to buy eneloops page: http://eneloop101.com/where-to-buy/






    Useful Threads:

    1. The history of Eneloop technology by Rosoku Chikara: Link to thread at CPF
    2. Japanese vs Chinese Eneloop 4th gen cycle testing by Power Me Up: Link to thread at CPF
    3. Test/Reviews of Eneloops by HKJ: Links to:








    1. Chinese vs Japanese eneloops.. how to see the difference?Link
    2. What are the recommended chargers for eneloop? link
      discussions and info thread about chargers for eneloops
    3. PDF for eneloop line-up europe 2015-2016 http://www.panasonic-eneloop.eu/pdf/...at_2015_LR.pdf
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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2015








    Last edited by ChibiM; 04-11-2017 at 01:31 PM. Reason: updated info

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2015

    Detailed info on all models and versions of eneloops.













    2015/5 eneloop America show new packaging for 10year shelflife: http://shop.panasonic.com/about-us-l...batteries.html
    Last edited by ChibiM; 04-11-2017 at 01:29 PM.

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    I think a lot of people here have seen parts or all of this information at one point or another but it is really nice to have in one place. Thank You.

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2015

    If you are looking for "made in Japan" eneloop batteries, from Japan.
    I sell all kinds of eneloop batteries at CPFM . (sales stopped)

    I live in Tokyo, Japan, and ship them worldwide
    Eneloops:
    • Standard
    • Lite
    • Plus
    • Pro
    • limited editions
    • chargers


    Here the official announcement from a few months ago, that they were going to rebrand their eneloops..
    From April 26 to be precise
    Last edited by ChibiM; 06-24-2015 at 06:17 AM. Reason: updated link

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    Many thanks for the precise explanation.
    I'm now looking for Eneloop batteries in e-bay because in order to get them here in this country I need to get a loan from the bank, they sell them about 200% more expensive than in the internet..
    My problem with e-bay is that it is easy to get the fake ones.. and until you get them you can't know that.
    Do you know a e-bay dealer that sells the genuine ones? (you can PM if you don't want to expose the answer)
    Have a nice day.

    --- Ricky Marek

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2015

    Update January 2015: Chinese vs Japanese eneloopsC

    Not all batteries currently on the market are made in Japan..
    some are made in China... beware, that some testing have shown that AA eneloop standard , made in China, are inferior to their siblings made in Japan.

    Take note that this is at least for the time being.. the Chinese eneloops may gain quality over time.


    • 1 easy way to tell the difference is that the Chinese made cells show a 65% capacity after 5 years.


    HERE AN EXAMPLE
    First picture is a pack that is made in China.. you can see 65%

    and at the backside of the Chinese made eneloops..
    the circled part shows that they are made in China... (hard to understand without knowing Chinese characters) but the easy part is the 65% text


    The next pack is made in Japan.. you can see 70%


    Although the text COLORS is spelled without the U on the "Japanese made" package, that doesnt mean that all of them with that text are made in Japan... thats just a small difference. But not the main difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbid1962 View Post
    ..My problem with e-bay is that it is easy to get the fake ones.. and until you get them you can't know that.
    Do you know a e-bay dealer that sells the genuine ones? (you can PM if you don't want to expose the answer)
    --- Ricky Marek
    Check you PM box for a trustworthy Eneloop source way safer than eBay.

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    Edit: Voluntarily removed my post as "off topic." Please see my new thread.
    Last edited by Rosoku Chikara; 06-23-2013 at 12:42 AM.

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    I'm from the Galilee in Israel

    Local shops (related to photography) sell the XX for ~50 US$, the Standard ones are around 25US$.

    The official dealers do not sell the XX

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosoku Chikara View Post
    For example, I do not see the 500 cycle "limitation" of the Pro series as any kind of real limitation at all. It no doubt depends on your particular application, but in my case, I am almost never going to fully discharge my batteries within one week. That means that, given a 500 cycle "life," the Black Eneloop Pro batteries that I have recently purchased will last me for ten years! (Frankly, I do have all that much confidence that will even be alive by then!)

    And, Don't be "fooled" by the numbers. How may cycles are you going realistically ever use?
    If you want to talk realistic real-world use you shouldn't quote manufacturer claimed cycle life figures. Those are under ideal situations. You should cut that figure in half at the very least.

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    An Aside:

    I want to apologize to those who have already posted replies, but I happen to live in the mountains, where we have relatively poor internet access, at least when it comes to USA-based servers. So, I have found that the best way for me to successfully post on this forum, is for me to post a "Quick Reply" and then further edit that post "as I go."

    (Otherwise, I run the very real risk "losing the whole thing" after I have typed it.)

    Therefore, some of your comments above may have been written before I had finished my intended post.

    I must apologize for that.
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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    Edit: Voluntarily removed my post as "off topic." Please see my new thread.
    Last edited by Rosoku Chikara; 06-23-2013 at 12:44 AM.

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    ChibiM, that's a great piece of info to have there. Thanks!
    Keep it between the ditches and the shiny side up.

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    Thank you for all you work in creating that database, would be nice as an excel spreadsheet share? I just bought 16 AA & 12 AAA, all new 3rd generation eneloops. I had read about the Panasonic rebranding, and increased cycles, but at 1800 advertised cycles, I was not about to wait. The 3rd generations are readily available on Amazon, but the only offerings for the 4th gens, were imports, this last week when I did my shopping. Nice job!

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    If you guys want to buy a few 4th generation AA eneloops, I have a few for sale on CPFM.

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    Does anyone have any idea if Amazon, Thomas, etc. are going to get the C and D cells whenever Panasonic decides to let the rest of the world have the 4th gen? And have there been any tests/verification of capacity on them yet?

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    I seem to recall seeing a photo of an Eneloop D cell that had been opened, and it was found to contain 3 x AA cells.

    (I believe you can find that photo somewhere on CPF. I have no idea about their C cells.)
    My avatar photo is that of a small handmade toy boat that propels itself along the water in a realistic "chug-chug" kind of motion, yet is powered entirely by CandlePower. (Japanese children used to make them out of various types of junk, but now they are largely a "lost art.")

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    You're right, somehow I missed this.

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...-Cells-Exposed

    Wonder why if they were going that route they didn't just sell separate holders for the cells? I would pay for good AA to D or AAA to C holders were such available... but it seems that at least for D size all you can get is two AA to a D unless you make your own. Would be way more flexible than the arrangement shown in those pics.

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    Eneloop XX are sold with different numbers in different countries.. which might cause confusion....at least it confused me.

    These are all HR-3UWXB, 2nd generation XX/PRO but with different packages.. 1 with Typ. mAh rating, others with Minimal mAh rating.




    Above left is the Chinese version, and right is the English version
    and below is the Japanese version.
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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    All I see these days are the Panasonic Eneloop Pros...




    The Sanyo Eneloop Pros appear to be all sold out.

    Edit: I missed the point of your post. After your explanation below, I now I understand that you wanted to show the different packaging for the same battery, not the latest packaging. Sorry.
    Last edited by Rosoku Chikara; 08-17-2013 at 03:53 PM.
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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    I know, i just showed the 2nd gen. XX .. with the different numbers.
    When I first saw 2550mAh, I was shocked because I thought they were fakes. Because since a while eneloop only showed Min.mAh, but China still shows the typ.mAh.
    So it will help when people come to this thread asking about eneloops with 2550mAh, that they know they are the same.

    China also called the first generation XX, HR-3UWXA, while everywhere else they don't have an A at the end, just UWX.
    edit: it seems that these were also selling in the US (June 2015)
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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    I just got two 8 packs of Glitters, each pack dated 09/12 off of WOOT.com for $37 shipped, with two cheap dumb chargers, one per pack.

    They look neat. I haven't opened them yet, to check the date codes on each battery, but I basically got two sets for the price of one, going by what the Glitters are selling for on Ebay.

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    Hey Guys,
    I need approximately 40AA and 10AAA rechargeable batteries, would like latest gen, good quality rechargeables, a charger and a multimeter.
    Suggestions and where to buy please?
    Cheers,
    kris

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    Quote Originally Posted by krisvm View Post
    Hey Guys,
    I need approximately 40AA and 10AAA rechargeable batteries, would like latest gen, good quality rechargeables, a charger and a multimeter.
    Suggestions and where to buy please?
    Cheers,
    kris
    Where do you live, bra?

    If you're in the States, Target is blowing out their Duracell branded 'white top' Gen II Duraloops for $3.65 pack of 4 AA, or AAA, before tax. These are Gen II Eneloops, FWIW.

    Get a boatload of them before they're all gone and pick up a Maha C9000 with all the money you just saved.

    You're welcome.

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    Sounds like a great deal but I am in Australia - we get hammered here on value. Maha c9000 looks great. Better than Lacrosse BC 1000 hey? Best deal I can find at the moment is Sanyo XX AA for $AU 20 per a 4 pack delivered.

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    A few new batteries announced, and an 8-pack of Eneloop Pro announced... (first time in eneloop history )
    Available from November 29th. Only available in Japan...

    Eneloop Glamour: 4 and 8 packs. For the gals among us



    Eneloop PRO 8 pack:

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    Default Re: Overview: All eneloop batteries; 2005-2013

    Chibi, do you consider adding info on the Duraloops?

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    The glamour ones look absolutely gorgeous but I am very satisfied with my regular glitter eneloops. Several friends and relatives have remarked how cool they look without me asking, just when I had to get batteries for a device. Only in Japan would they care about the colors of batteries that you don't see when using devices.... But I can get on the bandwagon with that! Haha

    It would be nice if you could get a 4 pack of one color of your choice

    We don't have colored batteries in the US the only ones I remember are those pink breast cancer energizer alkalines

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    We need a flashlight made from transparent aluminium to show off all these cool looking Eneloops...

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