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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric242 View Post
    Nice, judging from the pictures I´d assume you could attach the Zebralight clip the other way round on the tailend as well?

    eric
    Can not attach the Zebralight clip in the opposite way around the tailend. The tailcap while being turned around, will be scratched by the clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juplin View Post
    Received my C21C today. Just find these three flashlights are almost same in length, but slightly different in head diameter.
    How is output and throw of the C21C compared to the Olight S20 (for example with the C21C set to high/510 lumen and the S20 set to high/470 lumen)?

    Is max output visually similar to max on the Zebralight? Just wondering if the Sunwayman actually gets close to the claimed 830 lumen max

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    Also, does anyone know if the Eagletac 3400mAh 18650 battery fits in the C21C?

    Thanks

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    Bit the bullet and got the T45C. There's just something about the red and black that really gets me!

    Will post info mini-review when the light arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcled View Post
    How is output and throw of the C21C compared to the Olight S20 (for example with the C21C set to high/510 lumen and the S20 set to high/470 lumen)?

    Is max output visually similar to max on the Zebralight? Just wondering if the Sunwayman actually gets close to the claimed 830 lumen max
    C21 with larger reflector is more throw than Olight S20. This is also supported by the specifications of max lumens/light intensity for C21C and S20-L2: 830 lumens/8,800 cd vs. 550 lumens/3,500 cd.

    I have done the ceiling bounce test on C21C and Zebralight SC600 with 750 lumens max, and found the 830 lumen max claimed by Sunwayman should be true.

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    You guys are killing me! I just said two days ago that I wouldn't buy any more lights for a while...that promise lasted all of two days. C21C on the way from GoingGear - I really like the look, and it is considerably brighter than the C20C I already have, plus the red LED as an added bonus.

    RCLED, I would be willing to bet $100 that the Eagletac 3400 will work just fine. It is basically the same size as the C20C, and I have used that cell in that light with no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedoc007 View Post
    You guys are killing me! I just said two days ago that I wouldn't buy any more lights for a while...that promise lasted all of two days. C21C on the way from GoingGear - I really like the look, and it is considerably brighter than the C20C I already have, plus the red LED as an added bonus.

    RCLED, I would be willing to bet $100 that the Eagletac 3400 will work just fine. It is basically the same size as the C20C, and I have used that cell in that light with no issues.
    thedoc007,
    I am almost hoping the Eagletac 3400 WON'T fit because I've already bought too many lights this year .

    I hope you'll post your impressions after you receive it. Congrats on the purchase!

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    Default New Sunwayman T45C and C21C



    The red light is great for walking a wooded path. The beam doesn't throw very far. It's a circle of light . My guess is a 30 foot circle if the light is held facing the ground about 1 meter or 3.5 ft up. Even if you hold the light to shine the red beam away from you it doesn't throw far.
    The white light is very bright. Lots of lumens from such a small light. Low is more like medium. A little too bright for me.



    Maybe a real photographer will take some red beam shots for everyone soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcled View Post
    I am almost hoping the Eagletac 3400 WON'T fit because I've already bought too many lights this year .
    You're out of luck there. Received it this evening, just tested fit for all my cells.

    C20C fits Eagletac 3400, Redilast 3400, Orbtronic 3100, does NOT fit Xtar 3400
    C21C fits Eagletac 3400, Redilast 3400, Orbtronic 3100, and Xtar 3400

    Xtar is the largest cell by a substantial margin, and will not fit in the C20C at all. Too wide. In the C21C it is a tight fit, but doesn't stick and slides out easily with the force of gravity. Clearly Sunwayman noted the earlier incompatibility, and bored the C21C just that tiny amount wider.

    Quote Originally Posted by rcled View Post
    I hope you'll post your impressions after you receive it.
    I do wish they had included a real low with the white LED. To access the red (mule) when you were using white, you have to turn it all the way off, then hold down the button for a couple seconds to engage the red LED. Not the quickest, and going to total darkness is not necessarily ideal.

    Definitely less streamlined than the C20C also - I knew the head was larger, but for some reason the C21C flares out near the tail-cap also. Makes it harder to holster quickly (I'm using the Nite-Ize stretch holster, since it does not come with one.)

    The C21C reflector is a very light orange-peel texture, the C20C reflector is smooth. And this does show up in the beam - the C20C has a slightly narrower hotspot.

    The C21C is a heck of a lot more roll-resistant, for obvious reasons.

    I thought the C21C would be the replacement for the C20C, but that is not the case. They are more different than I expected, so now I am keeping both. Why am I not surprised?


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    Default Re: New Sunwayman T45C and C21C

    Battery length of 67mm works in mine. 68mm? Maybe not. Don't have one that length.
    I like the main beam profile. Very wide spill and big fat hot spot. Throws just fine. Just a hint of green but not bad. This coming from someone who HATES greenish beams. I'd like to see an XM-L2 T6 option.
    The side convex lens over the XP-E2 is actually red itself. If I look at it from the side, it's red. I suspect the LED is white.
    I also wish the main and side lamps had one more lower level each and didn't cancel each others memory.
    Lockout is easy to enter. Difficult & unreliable to exit. Tail cap lockout is a no brainer.
    I agree that a clip and holster are needed features. Especially a clip.
    My EC2 holster works well.
    Overall though, it's a great general purpose light and a keeper.
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    It will do 69mm cells easily. I'm betting even the 70mm FastTech Panasonics would be OK, although there would be a lot more tension in the spring. 68mm is probably ideal.

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    got both lights yesterday
    As always with Sunwayman, great finish. Absolutely love the look of these lights !
    KeepPower 3400mAh protected doesn't fit in T45C (diameter) but is fine in C21C. Agree with Kabible that a holster is missing on T45C (I use the one for Nitecore EA4 for now). T45C is a power house ! nice beam quality, and good compromise between throw and spill. Only a bit bigger than EA4 but better throw, more lumens and better runtime.
    Regarding C21C, I prefer C20C power spacing. But I felt in love of the red LED that provides a nearly perfect circle of light, without any hot spot. Beautiful ! A keeper for my collection.
    My new EDC combo is now M11R + T45C (replacing EA4W). Will try to take some pictures tomorrow

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    T45C throws better than EA4? Interesting because manufacturers claims are almost identical (800lux/1m more for EA4).

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    Can anyone comment on the red led?

    It is red-orange, or a true deep red that doesn't effect rod vision.

    Thanks in advance!
    I may not be that bright, but my lights are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliceScannerMan View Post
    Can anyone comment on the red led?

    It is red-orange, or a true deep red that doesn't effect rod vision.

    Thanks in advance!
    How can I quantify the red? It is pretty red, but I don't know if that precludes it from being red-orange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carrot View Post
    How can I quantify the red? It is pretty red, but I don't know if that precludes it from being red-orange.
    That's a good question, I guess you have to have a light with the red orange emitter to compare. The red should be a deep red, and not red-orange. So simple its hard to explain.

    Looks like its a red emitter with a red diffuser over it??
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    In a brightly lit room, it is not a particularly deep red, but neither is it very orange, to my eye. A lighter shade of red, perhaps, but definitely not shifting much toward orange. Of course, as with all lights, the tint appears different depending on environment. In total or near-total darkness, it is a solid, fairly deep red, with no hint of any other color. Since that is presumably the intended use, I'd say the color is appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliceScannerMan View Post
    That's a good question, I guess you have to have a light with the red orange emitter to compare. The red should be a deep red, and not red-orange. So simple its hard to explain.

    Looks like its a red emitter with a red diffuser over it??
    I'll put it this way. It doesn't appear to look very orangey on its own but it certainly lacks the deep red of my E1B with Olight red filter over it.
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    Since I disappoint with SC600 switch that hurt my finger and cannot turn on when emergency(because I cannot press the switch) as I face, I return it to the box since the first night of using and promise that I will not buy this brand again if they still use this kind of switch.

    For this Sunwayman, it is interesting that it should be the one that can fit the need of many person that have the same problem as me.

    For the extreme low that this light lack, I never find any situation in real life that I need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom23 View Post
    T45C throws better than EA4? Interesting because manufacturers claims are almost identical (800lux/1m more for EA4).
    I own both lights, they almost have identical hotspots, almost identical size reflectors, but the T45C has a more intense hotspot which translates to better throw. I bet the factor there may also be that the L2 led has greater output compared to the U2 of the EA4.

    Plus the fact that the EA4 uses 4 AA's at a time, its not really my first choice when going on prolonged outdoor trips (several days, with no light in the evenings)... it will go through my battery supply quickly! 18650's may be a b*tch to charge in the outdoors with no electricity using solar panels, but due to the runtime they offer, i'm more at ease that I will still have a running flashlight after several days outdoor. (Sorry a bit off topic)

    I will post a mini-review of the T45C which I got a few days ago, let me play with the light a bit more then I will release an honest report of pro's and con's of this light.

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    How does the T45c compare to the Fenix tk35?

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    Default Re: New Sunwayman T45C and C21C

    How does the C21C compare to the Fenix PD35? The throw seems comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrycolez View Post
    How does the T45c compare to the Fenix tk35?
    The T45C not only looks cooler, but is brighter than the Tk35. It's like comparing today's technology with old tech. Plus the fact that the 18650's are in parallel not like the series configuration on the TK35. In a pinch, you can run it with just 1 18650.

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    Juplin, could you tell us how beam pattern of C21C compares vs ZL SC600? Is it also very floody or gives more throw?
    Also - how exacly low voltage indicator works in C21C?

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    Default Re: New Sunwayman T45C and C21C

    I want a low mode so low I can't even tell the light is on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warsaw View Post
    ...could you tell us how beam pattern of C21C compares vs ZL SC600? Is it also very floody or gives more throw?
    The Zebralight SC600 Mk II has a slightly smaller and more intense hotspot, and slightly wider spill. But they are pretty similar. Maybe 5-10% wider spill angle, and hotspot looks similar enough that it would be difficult to tell them apart (on brightness) unless they are side by side. The C21C beam is not as clean, either, to me that is the biggest difference. The SC600 is almost a perfect even circle, and the C21C is not.

    After having used the C21C for a week or two, except for the added red mule LED and brightness, I much prefer the C20C. Cleaner beam, better throw (smooth reflector instead of orange peel texture), still plenty bright for my use, comes with a holster, looks nice and is just that little bit smaller. I'd take either the C20C or the Zebralight over the C21C, hands down. I may be selling mine - kind of disappointed that the C21C is not more refined. The flared tail cap is particularly annoying because it prevents even my Nite-Ize stretch holster from working well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warsaw View Post
    Juplin, could you tell us how beam pattern of C21C compares vs ZL SC600? Is it also very floody or gives more throw?Also - how exacly low voltage indicator works in C21C?
    The beam pattern of C21C is very similar to that of my SC600. Actually, my first-generation SC600 is slightly throw than C21C.
    Low voltage indicator of C21C is very precisely operated. This indicator will be turned on around 3.2x V under load. While the 18650 is removed and measured, the battery voltage will be read around 3.4x V without load.
    Last edited by juplin; 10-18-2013 at 01:35 PM.

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    Alarmingly, I discovered one of the screws fell out on my C21C. I asked Craig at Illumination Supply to send me a new screw but in the meantime I decided to put blue loctite on all my screws. I'd advise the rest of you to keep an eye on your screws!
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    Quote Originally Posted by carrot View Post
    Alarmingly, I discovered one of the screws fell out on my C21C. I asked Craig at Illumination Supply to send me a new screw but in the meantime I decided to put blue loctite on all my screws. I'd advise the rest of you to keep an eye on your screws!
    The screws of C21C are also used in many eyeglasses frames. Under urgent situation, you may also contact local eyeglasses stores for substitutive screws.

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    Juplin, thedoc007 thanks for the info


    Quote Originally Posted by thedoc007 View Post
    The C21C beam is not as clean, either, to me that is the biggest difference. The SC600 is almost a perfect even circle, and the C21C is not.

    Hmm, interesting. What exactly do you mean by "not clean beam"? Shape of it? Or can you notice some artifacts?


    I need to buy flashlight for my friend (for a gift). It is specific situation - he runs grocery, and usualy buys vegetables/fruits etc on the market in the middle of the night. I gived him klarus St20 about 2 years ago, but it is time to replace it.


    Mandatory for a flashlight:
    - 18650 type
    - flood
    - 700lm+
    - easy interface (he do not like ZebraL interface, its to complex for him)
    - durable (it may and will fall on the ground)
    - small, pocket size.
    - built in charger is a +, but Nitecore series with it are throwers and i need flood.
    - no PWM


    Would you consider C21C for that kind of application?
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