Sunwayman D20A Gemini, double AA, twin LED flashlight latest review

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Sunwayman D20A Gemini
Dual Light Sources, 2 x AA Batteries in Parallel, 258 Lumens

Is the latest high power dual light source AA flashlight from Sunwayman. The D20A is what I would classify as a retro but novel looking light which captured my interest straightaway!



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What's in the box


The box is a highly illustrated glossy cardboard box with a plastic insert with:
D20A Gemini, a set of instructions in Chinese and English, a registration card, a small advertising leaflet for some of their lights and a small plastic bag with a lanyard and 3 "o" rings.
The box and the leaflet data on the main white LED did not match Sunwayman website data.
There are printing errors on both as what you are actually getting for the main LED is an XP G2 R5, which is stated on their website.
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Reply from Sunwayman, 10/30/13 - We have noted this and made new user manuals. )


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Initial overview and feel


The D20A has a very distinctive look with a rectangular shape and a double lens at the front. This in a way reminded me of the business end of the Legendary Colt 45, kind of a comforting look of quality and power. The D20A looks small enough for an EDC and is not much longer that most single AA flashlights, but of course twice as wide. It has an elongated cubic shape which allows the D20A to stand or lay in any position without rolling. The first thing you notice when you pick it up is its weight, especially when loaded with 2 AA (weight with two Eneloop is 171gr) but the D20A fitted well in my hand with my thumb naturally resting on the switches (I have a medium sized hand).



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The other thing you notice is the square edges of the endcap digging a little into your hand. On both narrow sides, it has a slight ribbing to help with the grip. The two switches have a positive feel and are easy to differentiate thanks to the dual level height. The endcap is removed by turning anticlockwise a tail ring located by the red lock and pulling the assembly out of the body. Inserting batteries will require looking at the internal spring arrangement to get the batteries the right way in. No minus or positive logo or engraving are showing, so people will have to be careful. Again, you need to look at the spring arrangement to insert the endcap the correct way! No mention of reverse polarity protection and I will contact the manufacturer to check this. (Reply from Sunwayman, 10/30/13 Yes, the D20A has reverse polarity protection)
Once locked, the endcap on my light has not got the positive watertight feel that you would get out of a screw cap, but in a way this is to be expected due to the two pin twist lock mechanism needed on a rectangular endcap. I wonder if the two screws on either side could be a tension adjustment? Again, I will contact the manufacturer to find out.
(Reply from Sunwayman, 10/30/13 There is o-ring on the endcap so don't worry about the waterproof, we have the test. The two screws on either side are not tension adjustment.)


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Sunwayman specify that the D20A is waterproof, in accordance with IPX -8 standard
Initially, reinserting the endcap with the battery loaded was a real struggle as the "o" ring was dry, but once lubricated with Nyogel or similar lube, the endcap went in easily. The side clip has a very strong tension and will firmly hold your D20A on any webbing or belt. The clip can be removed if required by unscrewing the two small hex bolts. The Type III - hard anodized on the body and endcap was flourless, but the black coating on the clip had two small chips when I received the flashlight. The two stainless steel bezel for the lenses, do protrude slightly and I think it is in the design of the light.
Once turned on, you get plenty of light out of the D20A. The beam is more of a thrower but with plenty of spill to make it a very useful flashlight inside or out. I personally think the 3 main modes 208, 70, 4 lumens are well spaced and it is nice to see that they have included a really useful low (4 Lumens is low enough for me :)). The step down from Turbo to high is noticeable, but the high still gives you over 200 lumens for 2.3 hours. This for me is a massive plus against single AA type flashlights! I like the fact that the Strobe and SOS are hidden modes as I am sure, for many they are hardly used. When I first turned on the Red LED I was amazed at how 23 red Lumens covered by resin convex lens illuminated! Great! Now if this is too much for your night vision , there is also a 10 and a 4 lumens setting. The Police flash is right after the low and only the slow flash is hidden. Both LED's have a "last mode used" memory function which is memorized until you switch the other LED on.


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Regarding the LED, the box and instruction leaflet list the main LED as being an XM-L U2 but the Sunwayman website list it as a XP-G2 R5. From the comparison wall beam shots taken with a V11R (XM L U2 ) and an early V10RTi (Cree R5), you will see that this definitely not an XM-L.



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Manufacturer Data


CREE XP-G2 R5 and XP-E P2 LED, with a lifetime of up to 50,000 hours;
Newest Stepped Dual-button Side Switch System, 6 output modes to select from:
White Light
Turbo: 258 Lumens (Automatically enter High mode after 3 mins continuous use to avoid overheat)
High: 208 Lumens (2.3hrs.)
Mid: 70 Lumens (9.3hrs.)
Low: 4 Lumens (60hrs.)
Strobe
SOS
Red Light
High: 23 Lumens
Mid: 10 Lumens
Low: 4 Lumens
Police Strobe
Slow Flash
Standby Current <100µA
Constant current circuit, constant output
Effective range of 126 meters
Intensity: 4000cd
Uses two AA batteries
Working voltage: 0.9~3V
White light uses high quality metal reflector, maintains great throw distance and spread with an ideal beam pattern; Red light uses high quality resin lens
Dimensions: 21mm x 35mm x 102.5mm
Weight: 119g(battery excluded)
Aerospace-grade aluminum alloy, Stainless Steel retaining ring on the top
Military Specification Type III - hard anodized body
Waterproof, in accordance with IPX -8 standard
Ultra-clear tempered glass lens resists scratches and impacts
Accessories: Lanyard, O-ring



Settings

From Off, you need to depress the further back (lower, on/off) switch to turn the white LED on to either turbo mode or the last memorized (white) mode, then a depress of the front switch (mode) will bring the next mode in the sequence of turbo, high, medium and low. Also two hidden modes are obtained from the front switch via a quick double depress for the white strobe and a long depress for the SOS .
A short depress of the rear switch will turn the light off.
A long depress of the rear switch will activate the red led. Again the same process with the modes being cycled via a short depress of the front switch with high, medium, low and police strobe. A hidden slow flash mode is obtained by a long depress of the forward switch.
Again the D20A has a "last used mode" memory which will be cancelled when you turn the white LED on.
The flashlight as a lock/standby mode which is activated from off by holding the front ( mode) switch down for a couple of seconds. Whichever LED you used last will flash to let you know that your are locked. To unlock, just hold the front switch down until the light turns itself on. Again this will be on the same mode and LED that your light was last on.

Home test


A while back I made a DIY integration sphere that I now use to take my LUX readings. This allows me to make fairly accurate comparisons between my various light outputs and run times.
The test was done with two Black Eneloop XX showing 1.44v each
The D20A was turn on Turbo showing
0mn 17650
1mn 17310
2mn 17210
3mn 17150
at 3mn 36" the turbo stepped down to high mode showing now 13610 lux .
Unfortunately, I did not record the exact time when the level dropped from 13480 to the low 4200 when I turned off the D20A but this was around 145mn,
making the manufacturer run time very accurate as they stated 2.3h on high mode, and I did start my test with turbo!



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Indoor and outdoor beam shots

Please note data given below are from the manufacturer. I have tried to adjust my camera settings to show as close as I can what I see.



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turbo 258 lumens
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High, 208 lumens

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medium 70 lumens

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high 23 lumens

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medium 10 lumens

Our kitchen is all white apart from one wall so the ceiling bounce work very well maximizing the light
Photos are as close as I can get it.



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For/Against

Against:
like many flashlights there are a few niggles, but nothing major.
If I had the opportunity to make changes, then I would sort out the sharp angles on the endcap and introduce some internal raised markings in the body to allow battery fit by feel in total darkness.


For:
Sunwayman have been very bold by launching the D20A. This is very different from anything else on the market today and due to its unusual look some will love it and others may not. With the D20A you are getting a twin parallel AA battery flashlight with dual LED (one red for some night activities) with long run time, in a very stylish, compact and robust EDC form with a military flavour! And the intuitive LED operating system makes the D20A easy to use.
The fact that the D20A is powered by AA batteries makes it the ideal light to have in a crisis as AA's are the most commonly used and easiest obtainable batteries.




I think this will be very well received by the professionals like the Military, the Police, Search and Rescue and others as its ability to be clipped on mole attachments or harnesses while displaying various flash modes (with its white or red LED) will be useful . In am a keen cyclist and cycle to work every day and this will now be in my rucksack or on my trouser belt as the D20A could act as a front or rear light back up if one of my usual lights failed!
It may be a little heavy and bulky for your jeans/trouser pocket but would feel at home in your coat or on your belt.

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So for me it is a big YES,
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I love it, especially its looks and functionability.

D20A supplied by Sunwayman for review

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Hi Skyraider59!

Thanks for the review! I've been carrying my D20A within my EDC rotation. Distinctive looks. Solid build. A YES for me too!
 

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Very nice review Skyraider59 - well done.

If this light were upgraded to R,G,B - I'd have a new backup light for my car.

I guess time will tell. And hopefully you'd be willing to do another smashing review.
 

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Pretty bad weather after the big storm here in the UK. I had to cycle back home in the rain this evening and I did think that I could do with an extra light on my bike so rigged the D20A to the grab handle on the top of my rucksack and had it working on the slow red flash, worked a treat"
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Great review, Skyraider59!

So the kitchen photos were taken with just D20A alone, no any other light source??? That is pretty sweet illumination! :huh:

And glad you are allright, I saw on the news that it was very strong storm. BTW, it was nice real-world test for this light I guess. :)
 

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Great review, Skyraider59!

So the kitchen photos were taken with just D20A alone, no any other light source??? That is pretty sweet illumination! :huh:

And glad you are allright, I saw on the news that it was very strong storm. BTW, it was nice real-world test for this light I guess. :)

Thanks DSE, our county did not get affected too much, the wind only reached 80-mph, but more damaged was not North of where I am.
The kitchen shots were taken only with the D20A, this was placed on the floor facing up in line with the camera, you can see the reflection of the LED in one of door.
Incredibly bright for an AA flashlight. Mind you, this is the ideal room as 75 of the room is pure white with all the kitchen cabinets being glossy white actin as a reflector. I have a V11R and V10RTi with the old CREE 5 led so will take some more photos to make a comparison between the lights.
I must say this has become my favorite light, just a bit heavy in my trouser pocket and can feel its sharp angles, so it is housed in a small mobile phone pouch for comfort.
 

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Hi Friends



I have received answers from Sunwayman regarding some of the questions I have raised:

{There are printing errors on both as what you are actually getting for the main LED is an XP G2 R5, which is stated on their website.}


We have noted this and made new user manuals.



{No mention of reverse polarity protection and I will contact the manufacturer to check this.}
Yes, the D20A has reverse polarity protection


{Once locked, the endcap on my light has not got the positive watertight feel that you would get out of a screw cap, but in a way this is to be expected due to the two pin twist lock mechanism needed on a rectangular endcap. I wonder if the two screws on either side could be a tension adjustment? Again, I will contact the manufacturer to find out.}
There is o-ring on the endcap so don't worry about the waterproof, we have the test. The two screws on either side are not tension adjustment.
[FONT=&#24494][/FONT][FONT=&#24494][/FONT]Thanks to Sunwayman for answering my question.Good customer care.
Skyraider59
 
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Thanks DSE, our county did not get affected too much, the wind only reached 80-mph, but more damaged was not North of where I am.
The kitchen shots were taken only with the D20A, this was placed on the floor facing up in line with the camera, you can see the reflection of the LED in one of door.
Incredibly bright for an AA flashlight. Mind you, this is the ideal room as 75 of the room is pure white with all the kitchen cabinets being glossy white actin as a reflector. I have a V11R and V10RTi with the old CREE 5 led so will take some more photos to make a comparison between the lights.
I must say this has become my favorite light, just a bit heavy in my trouser pocket and can feel its sharp angles, so it is housed in a small mobile phone pouch for comfort.

Ok, that's cool! Yes, I've noticed the reflection on the door, but I thought that you was holding the flashlight in your hand instead of putting it onto the floor. :) Nevertheless, this is very shiny, even if not to bear in mind the reflective surfaces. I can't wait to get my parcel and unpack this beauty. :)
 

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Hi
Found a safety feature, when the batteries are very low, ie my enaloop were 1.18v and 1.21v, le D20A would only worked on LOW and MEDIUM, still giving you enough light to get on with some work but kind of giving you a warning that it is time to change batteries!

Anybody else out-there who got one and like to talk about it? Ie how they are getting on?
 

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Cool light. Wondering why, though, that this is more expensive than the C21C, which has a more expensive LED. I guess that's not everything....
 

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Machining time and cost has to be higher for that thing.

I'm sure you are right. That said, there have been a lot of questions raised about the price of this light and I would bet many people are just thinking of the led cost.

I'm on the fence -- will buy either this light or its brighter and cheaper 123 brother (not side by side).
 

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Like you guys, I think D20A price come for the machining involved into making it, see the body shape and endcap, not your usual barrel shape flashlight machining!
Saying this, I would agree that this is not a cheap flashlight, Could it have been marketed for less? this is the big question???
But If you do search hard on the net, you can pick them up for $54 from a Chinese dealer, this may help people wanting them!!!!!:thumbsup:
Now for the collector, I think its shape make it unique (for the moment) and so very desirable!
For the user,the twin AA side by side makes it very compact and a good tool. Due to my job, I personally only used the red LED for fun (apart from one night using it as a cycle taillight) and I think personally I would have preferred a flood white beam as secondary LED, but the red and white LED do look cool. Despite its sharp end-cap hedges I seems to be unable to put her down, I just like the rectangular FEEL and love the LOOK. It is so different to the other flashlights I have.
As you can tell, I really like it and my usual EDC V11R despite being a lot lighter to carry is now back in my draw with the other flashlights in my collection.
If you can stretch to the price, get it, you won't be disappointed, it is a COOL LITTLE LIGHT.
SR59
 

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Thanks for this great review and photos.

Looks like almost the perfect light for astronomy - really like the idea of having the red and white together, plus the anti-roll.

But I had a question about the memory mode:

Both LED's have a "last mode used" memory function which is memorized until you switch the other LED on.

Does this mean that after using the red, it always goes back to turbo on the main beam ? Is there any way to go directly from red to a low white ?
 

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Is there any way to go directly from red to a low white ?
Unfortunately no., but I can see the reason why this would be useful. It looks like the D20A has only got one memory slot which is used by the red and the white LED, therefore switching LED will cancel the memory. Also the default set up from each LED is the brightest mode. Again for some this could be a plus and other this could be a minus point. It would have been better to have a separate memories for each LED to leave the user in full control.
I also like the fact that in any position, the light due to its shape is very stable, no rolling and ending up on the deck!
 

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Very nice review!

I wonder whether this could make a good bike tail-light for permanent use, not just as an emergency replacement.

I am always on the look-out for new rear red lights.

This would not have as wide an angle as the Niteflux Redzone, but maybe it would have a better throwy beam than e.g. the Cygolite Hotshot? If so, it would displace that from my bike.

I used to have a ZL with a red emitter, and that had very good throw. It was stolen along with the bike it was attached to. (sob!)

Any way you could do some comparison shots with other bike-blinkies?
 

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Thanks for the quick reply Skyraider. It is a shame they couldn't have put in an independent memory for each colour :(
 
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