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    For this test, I took a pair of Ikea Ladda NiMH AA cells and cycled them at 2 Amp charge and discharge rates until they could no longer handle a 2 Amp discharge. For every 50th cycle, each cell was charged from empty at 1 Amp, given a 100 mA top off for 2 hours and then discharged at 400 mA before being recharged again at 1 amp. Rest periods were 20 minutes after charging and 10 minutes after discharging.



    Considering the fact that this test was more extreme than the standard IEC cycle testing method, these cells performed very well. In many respects, they performed better than the 1st Generation Eneloop cell that I previously tested (here) – initial capacity was higher at both high and low discharge rates – the cells actually exceeded their rated capacity during the slow discharge tests over the first 200 cycles. Even when discharging at 2 Amps, they very nearly met their rated capacity for the first 50 to 100 or so cycles which I think is quite impressive. Both cells also managed about 450 cycles before failing the high rate discharge compared to only about 375 cycles for the 1st generation Eneloop. The Ikea cells very nearly met their rated number of cycles whereas the 1st generation Eneloop only came to about 37% of its rated cycles. It should be noted however that these figures aren’t directly comparable – The Eneloop cells were tested at a hotter time of the year and the testing method was also a little different. The 1st Generation Eneloop cell was also about 8 years old at the time of the test compared to the Ikea cells which were about 18 months old.

    I’m very impressed by the performance of these Ikea cells – especially when taking into account their cost – only AU$5.99 for a pack for 4! Eneloops on the best special in Australia cost about $20 for a pack of 8 – i.e. $10 for 4 of them. The Ikea cells are no less than 40% cheaper than the best price on Eneloops – and that is their normal everyday price! Comparing the normal price on Eneloops, you can usually buy 4 packs of the Ikea cells for the cost of 1 pack of 4 Eneloops, and still have change left over.

    The main drawback to the Ikea Ladda cells is their poor availability in Australia. There are literally only 5 stores that you can purchase these cells at this price in the whole country and you can't order them online. (There are additional stores in Perth and Adelaide, but for some inexplicable reason, the price in those stores is more than quadrupled at $25 per pack!) Even if you are lucky enough to live within a reasonable distance of an Ikea store, you then have to contend with the fact that the stores are intentionally laid out to make you walk long distances through the store – it’s essentially impossible to run in, grab what you want and then check out!

    Other than their poor availability, the Ikea cells have higher self discharge (and are less consistent) compared to Eneloops with capacity results out of the packet at: 1285, 1310, 1291 and 1075 (mAh) These cells were about 14 months old when I took them out of the packet, but since it's not known how full the cells are originally charged at the factory, it doesn't really give us too much information about their self discharge rate. After 30 days sitting idle, the cells had 85%, 86%, 86% and 83% remaining. The last cell may just be an outlier - it had the highest capacity of the 4 cells when freshly charged, but also had the highest self discharge which meant that even after only a month, it ended up with less capacity than the rest of the cells. I don't know if cells like this are common with the Ikea brand, but it's a bit of a concern if they are. I haven't yet had these cells for long enough to do a 6 month self discharge test, but elsewhere it has been reported that they found that the cells had 72% remaining after 6 months which seems to be inline with the results that I have seen so far.

    Overall, I recommend these cells! Considering their cheap price, I think that they're a much better choice than to continue using alkalines - it's possible to spend more on a pack of 4 name brand alkaline cells at the supermarket! For situations where longer cycle life or lower self discharge are important, I would still recommend Eneloops ahead of these.


    A few notes on this test:

    Ambient temperatures for this test were quite low a lot of the time – the testing concluded in the middle of Winter in Australia. By warming up the room that the cells were being tested in, it was possible to get them to run through the 2 Amp discharge test even after they had done 450 cycles – I managed to get these cells to do another 50 or so cycles which I haven’t shown on the above graph. Warmer weather would have meant that the cells would have been able to keep running without having to heat the room, but it’s likely that higher ambient temperatures would have also resulted in the cells lasting less cycles because heat is a likely contributor to cells degrading.

    Due to an error on my part, both cells went through about 30 (incomplete) cycles before the test was properly started – I haven’t included these cycles in these results since they probably wouldn’t have degraded their performance by much if at all. If they did impact the cycle life test, then that only improves my opinion of these cells! (I didn’t expect these cells to last so many cycles, so I was originally planning to run these cells as a test run and then restart it later with a new pair of cells)

    Due to some poor quality connectors, some of the discharges were done at a bit less than the intended 2 Amp rate – I don’t think that this has affected the test results significantly however. For the last part of the test, I replaced the connectors with new ones that are gold plated and this resolved the problem.

    For this test, I had the external constant current load sitting to the left of the charger - I suspect that this probably caused the 1st cell to average higher temperatures compared to the second cell and may explain why its capacity degraded faster. For future tests, I am locating the external load as far away from the charger as reasonably possible.
    Last edited by Power Me Up; 07-13-2014 at 04:55 PM.
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    Thanks for this! Since newer gen eneloops are very hard to find in canada I may need to try these.

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    Interesting. Are the Ikea cells low self discharge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm00 View Post
    Thanks for this! Since newer gen eneloops are very hard to find in canada I may need to try these.
    ChibiM has them in the marketplace

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    Great test


    However it seems the newer generation eneloops outperform Ikea Ladda.
    Another reason why these batteries won't be my first choice , are their seemingly slightly poorer ability to maintain the charge compared with many other brands on the market.
    On another forum has one tested the remaining capacity after 6 months to approx. 72 per cent for the AA , and 75 percent for the AAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    On another forum has one tested the remaining capacity after 6 months to approx. 72 per cent for the AA , and 75 percent for the AAA.
    That's not what I would call low self discharge. It's not bad, but not a good replacement for alkalines in low drain devices like remote controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkIntoTheLight View Post
    Interesting. Are the Ikea cells low self discharge?
    Yes, they are claimed to be ready to use:
    http://www.ikea.com/au/en/catalog/products/00240585/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Great test
    Thanks!

    However it seems the newer generation eneloops outperform Ikea Ladda.
    Yes, the newer generation Eneloops definitely perform better in most respects. Capacity on the Ikea cells is still a bit better unless you move along to the Eneloop XX cells. Still hard to beat the Ikea cells considering the price though!

    Another reason why these batteries won't be my first choice , are their seemingly slightly poorer ability to maintain the charge compared with many other brands on the market.
    On another forum has one tested the remaining capacity after 6 months to approx. 72 per cent for the AA , and 75 percent for the AAA.
    I haven't had these cells for long enough to do a 6 month discharge test yet, but those results do seem to be inline with what I've seen so far. I've updated my review and recommendations taking this into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkIntoTheLight View Post
    That's not what I would call low self discharge. It's not bad, but not a good replacement for alkalines in low drain devices like remote controls.
    I'd consider them low self discharge - they're still a huge improvement over the standard NiMH cells that were available before Eneloops came out.

    Keep in mind that their self discharge rate drops off over time, so I'd still expect them to work fairly well in remote controls over an extended period of time. (I also have a passionate dislike for alkalines and their tendency to leak and destroy things!)
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    Just picked up a set of four, thank you so much for the review!

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    Thanks for the review, I was just in IKEA the other day but didn't see them, then again was deliberately trying not to buy anything!
    Have you tested the ALDI ones? Claimed LSD, $7 for a 4 pack and a lot easier to come by. I have a set and they seem good for the price, but I have no way of testing them properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoGuE_StreaK View Post
    Thanks for the review, I was just in IKEA the other day but didn't see them, then again was deliberately trying not to buy anything!
    Have you tested the ALDI ones? Claimed LSD, $7 for a 4 pack and a lot easier to come by. I have a set and they seem good for the price, but I have no way of testing them properly.
    I haven't done any cycle life testing on Aldi ones, but the testing that I have done has shown that they're overrated - generally less than 2000 mAh despite being rated at 2300 mAh. The Ikea cells are much better cells in my opinion and cost less - just a shame that they're much harder to get unfortunately. I'd only recommend the Aldi cells if the choice was between them and alkalines!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoGuE_StreaK View Post
    Have you tested the ALDI ones?
    Be careful with the Aldi rechargeable AA's the cells I have are too fat for some applications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Be careful with the Aldi rechargeable AA's the cells I have are too fat for some applications.
    That seems to be a problem with modern NiMH cells in general. I find that Eneloops are a pretty tight fit in some devices, too. Though some of my old non-LSD cells are close to the size of a regular alkaline.

    At some point, manufacturers must have decided to increase the size in order to get higher capacity or LSD.

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    Today I finished my Ikeal Ladda (accelerated) cycle testing using a SkyRC MC3000 charger.

    150 cycles = EOL
    After the third round of 50 cycles the 4 Ladda 2450 AA batteries are EOL (end of life). The cell voltage is at 1.46 volts each and the MC3000 refuses to further charge or discharge the cells: "Battery So Poor". The internal cell resistances (according to the MC3000) are as follows:
    1534mOhm
    1378mOhm
    1498mOhm
    and the winner:
    2569mOhm.

    Used "slow cycle" program settings:
    Batt type: NiMH
    Mode: Cycle
    Capacity: 3900mAh (to prevent early capacity check disconnects)
    Charge current: 0.37A
    Discharge current: -0.13A
    Charge resting: 60 minutes
    Discharge resting: 60 minutes
    Cycle count: 50
    Cycle mode: D>C
    Target voltage: 1.65V
    Delta peak: 0dV
    Trickle charge: off
    Trickle time: off
    Restart voltage: off
    Discharge reduce: off
    Cut voltage: 1.00V
    Cut temperature: 39ºC
    Cut time: off

    Edit #1: even a "break-in" charge doesn't make these Ladda's come to use again.
    Last edited by cj0; 11-14-2017 at 09:50 AM.

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    My experience with Ikea Ladda (the green ones) are similar.
    After around 50-60 cycles in three years they are almost dead, the MC3000 refuses to accept them with the usual message "battery so poor".
    Older Eneloops still work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj0 View Post
    Today I finished my Ikeal Ladda (accelerated) cycle testing using a SkyRC MC3000 charger.
    Quote Originally Posted by cj0 View Post

    150 cycles = EOL
    After the third round of 50 cycles the 4 Ladda 2450 AA batteries are EOL (end of life). The cell voltage is at 1.46 volts each and the MC3000 refuses to further charge or discharge the cells: "Battery So Poor".

    You tested the suspected Eneloop Pro LADDAs? The white ones made in Japan?

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