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    Quote Originally Posted by gyzmo2002 View Post
    Someboby has tried to disable the bip sound?

    If I set the key bip off, the key bip is disabled, that is correct but it disable also the system beep too even if the System Beep is set to ON...??��

    The System Beep is when a status is completed and when there is a system alarm? I think so.

    Key Beep OFF and System Beep ON, I don't have the 10 beeps when the charge is completed...
    You found a bug, appreciated, listed under (k#73) thanks.

    API-spec is not freely available afaik, especially not anything firmware update related. DEX for example does not handle mc3k firmware update, i guess because of lack of API-doc. And in any case firmware updates will be less frequent, or let's say less substantial, from now on, my guess. As you can see the list of things done/fixed since v1.03 was immense already, so there are less and less things to be done/fixed now. Pool is empty, as i said. The maker may not have the time to answer API support questions and handle all the incoming related requests. Just my assumption.
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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Quote Originally Posted by kreisl View Post
    You found a bug, appreciated, listed under (k#73) thanks. API-spec is not freely available afaik, especially not anything firmware update related. DEX for example does not handle mc3k firmware update, i guess because of lack of API-doc. And in any case firmware updates will be less frequent, or let's say less substantial, from now on, my guess. As you can see the list of things done/fixed since v1.03 was immense already, so there are less and less things to be done/fixed now. Pool is empty, as i said. The maker may not have the time to answer API support questions and handle all the incoming related requests. Just my assumption.
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  3. #3693

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    Hi to all.

    just to tell you if you are using NC2600 Skyrc put a new app version on playstore.

    i did some test and graph for aaa battery where not working. it should be fixed now.

    have a good day

    Kreisl do you want somme picture of my MC3000 it should be the last version, beacause i receive from skyrc directly?

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    Android app bug: When exiting, it disables bluetooth on the phone (this is not desirable behavior). Also, when exiting, if it didn't find a device, it crashes.

  5. #3695

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    Hi Ormanj.

    you speak about NC2600??
    If it's about this charger may you have look on the new app please

  6. #3696

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    Hi there...

    I΄m a proud owner of the MC3000 since a week, and am very happy with it, but maybe I found another bug:
    I can not select the favourite programs 1-4 by clicking up and slotnumber. This only works, when I first click a Slot to get into program-menu, and then go back by pressing stop or selecting a program. Afterwards I can select the favorite programs with up+slotnumber for about 15 seconds. After ~15 sec. The charger doesn΄t react on the shortcut.
    Is this behaviour mentioned before?

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    App is SkyRC MC3000. Says version 2.6 in Play store but when it opens it says "V3.0". I checked for updates and saw none.

    Quote Originally Posted by steph996 View Post
    Hi Ormanj.

    you speak about NC2600??
    If it's about this charger may you have look on the new app please

  8. #3698

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIXXXXX View Post
    maybe I found another bug:
    I can not select the favourite programs 1-4 by clicking up and slotnumber. This only works, when I first click a Slot to get into program-menu, and then go back by pressing stop or selecting a program. Afterwards I can select the favorite programs with up+slotnumber for about 15 seconds. After ~15 sec. The charger doesn΄t react on the shortcut.
    I can confirm the presence of the bug, interesting one, thanks! The timing out occurs after ~30sec on my sample and I've listed your finding under (k#74).
    The easy reproduction of the bug doesn't equal its easy kill though.

    And congrats to the new ownership!

    @ormandj, i've listed your finding too, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steph996 View Post
    Hi to all.

    just to tell you if you are using NC2600 Skyrc put a new app version on playstore.
    ....
    Let's keep NC2600 stuff out of this thread, it has it's own thread and we don't need extra confusion, this charger has enough of that.

  10. #3700

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    Well said - let's stick with the MC3000 here. It is already plenty difficult to keep up with one charger. And in that context, a new link here to MC3000 issues might be useful (post 6).

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...arger-analyzer


    Quote Originally Posted by StandardBattery View Post
    Let's keep NC2600 stuff out of this thread, it has it's own thread and we don't need extra confusion, this charger has enough of that.
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    ...and another "bug":
    The capacity cut at eneloop Pro AA is 3400, but maybe this is already known?

  12. #3702

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIXXXXX View Post
    ...and another "bug":
    The capacity cut at eneloop Pro AA is 3400, but maybe this is already known?
    I meant 2400....

  13. #3703

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    Quote Originally Posted by STIXXXXX View Post
    ...and another "bug":
    The capacity cut at eneloop Pro AA is 3400, but maybe this is already known?
    Good day, the internal Eneloop table in FW1.12 should be the following:



    It's true that the mapping was daneben in FW1.11, noted under (k#63).
    Thanks for your critical findings, very much appreciated!

  14. #3704

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    Curious, though, where shall I buy the MC3000 charger here in North America? It's occasionally hard to trust Amazon, due to the fact that they occasionally sell fake clone of such products. And, to make matter worse, SkyRC don't even have the official North American dealers. This charger is pretty nice, and kind of a must-have due to the fact it supports several type of Lithium-ion battery chemistry (including Lithium : Iron Phosphate cells which not every chargers officially support).
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  15. #3705

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    Just to make things clear for the occasional surfer here:

    clone MC3000 and fake MC3000 do not exist.

    ( all PCB's have a squirrel logo printed. authenticity checks passed. )
    Last edited by kreisl; 09-10-2016 at 09:44 AM.

  16. #3706

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    Hopefully. I may be considering buying MC3000 charger at some point. In fact, I handle several types of bare Lithium-ion batteries, so it would be nice to have a charger capable of charging those available Li-ion batteries (although I don't think the 2.4 Volts Lithium : Titanium Oxide cells is on the list, although I may be wrong).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Mario View Post
    the 2.4 Volts Lithium : Titanium Oxide cells is on the


    ( it would be straight-forward to add BATT TYPE:LTO to the code but i am not sure where to buy commercial round LTO cells for end-consumer use )

  18. #3708

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    LTO cells do exist, but is expensive, and hard to find. At least for now, as was the case with Li : FePO4 cells back in mid-2000s. I can wait though, as MC3000 is software upgradeable, as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreisl View Post



    ( it would be straight-forward to add BATT TYPE:LTO to the code but i am not sure where to buy commercial round LTO cells for end-consumer use )
    ev-power sells 18650 LTO cells to end customers, but they come with both poles up north so won't fit the MC3000 without some extra work or an adapter. There shouldn't be a big need for a LTO profile as of yet but I'm sure the time will come for this chemestry too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreisl View Post
    Just to make things clear for the occasional surfer here:

    clone MC3000 and fake MC3000 do not exist.

    ( all PCB's have a squirrel logo printed. authenticity checks passed. )
    That's because the charger cloners are way too busy with the Nitecore models, I think they make more than Nitecore themselves now

    Wait until it's perfected though..... they could be hot on your tail.

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    When we charge NiMh and set a trickle charge, why we can't change the trickle time? The setting value is end.
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  22. #3712

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    Quote Originally Posted by gyzmo2002 View Post
    When we charge NiMh and set a trickle charge, why we can't change the trickle time? The setting value is end.
    Hi, there are about 12 different cases depending on Operation Mode, Cycle Mode, C.Resting, D.Resting, Trickle C., and Trickle Time, where the firmware logically alters (=restricts) the selection range of Trickle C. and Trickle Time. Let's take 2 of the 12 different cases to exemplify:

    ex6: NiMH Cycle D>C>D, D.RESTING:5min, C.RESTING:0min. You have set the options thus far. Now you're landing with your cursor on the option TRICKLE C.; it's a fixed OFF, because for the program there is no chance to apply trickle charge because you set the resting phase after Charge to 0min. No resting phase, so no trickle charge. And since there can't be any trickle charge, the next option TRICKLE TIME must be a fixed OFF too. What about RESTART VOLT? In our example this option is a fixed OFF too because the cycling ends with a discharge routine, and after discharge routines RESTART VOLT does not apply.

    ex8: That's your case afaik. NiMH Charge, C.RESTING:0min. With the resting phase after Charge set to 0min, there is no resting after Charge, so the option TRICKLE TIME lacks the parameter Rest. Hence, once you set a value for TRICKLE C., the parameter range {OFF|Rest|End} is automatically reduced to {End}. Also, RESTART VOLT gets a fixed OFF, because RESTART VOLT and TRICKLE C. are mutually exclusive as per design spec.

    If you changed C.RESTING to say 5min, then you could set TRICKLE TIME to End (ex10) or to Rest (ex11).

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    Thank you for this explaination. I think it has been changed compared to FW1.02.
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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    I have FW1.02.
    TRICKLE Charge isn't a fixed off In this firmware edition.
    After setting NiMH to Cycle D>C>D, D.RESTING:5min, and C.RESTING:0min as in Kreisl's exsamle ex6 listed above (in post 3712), you still have the option to set TRICKLE C to either off or choose among values between 10- 300 mA in 10 mA intervals ( 10, 20, 30 up to 300 mA). However I see no option named TRICKLE TIME in FW1.02.

    Also in Kreisl's exsamle ex8 TRICKLE Charge isn't a fixed off in FW1.02.
    Again I have the option to set TRICKLE Charge, but I see no option named TRICKLE TIME.
    Last edited by Viking; 09-11-2016 at 09:38 AM.

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    See (k#41) the trickle charge feature of the firmware was fully revised in FW1.11, a small bug (k#68) was left over and has been fixed in FW1.12. Afaik the future versions of PCLS, APP, DEX, etc won't support old FW versions like FW1.02 (and FW1.03?) anymore.

    Hello Viking, can you update to FW1.11 or why did you stick with the old?

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    Maybe I will sometime. But so far FW 1.02 works fine for my needs :-)

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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Thinking about it.
    If the option TRICKLE TIME also exist under nimh charge mode in FW versions 1.11 or 1.12, that could make me update.
    That way I could make a time limited 2 hour top off charge (or even less or longer after my own choosing) like Maha C9000 offers.

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    Yes, with FW1.11 this is possible. Timed trickle charge after the charging has finished. If you want 100min trickle charging, then you'd have to set C.RESTING=100min and TRICKLE TIME=Rest

    Last edited by kreisl; 09-11-2016 at 10:30 AM.

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    Great!
    That is one of very few options I have missed in this excellent analyzer.
    Now I definitely will update, but perhaps I will wait for fw 1.12
    As I understand, it won't be that long before its release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    As I understand, it won't be that long before its release.
    Yes that's what i had understood too in Feb about FW1.04, yet it never was released. Since then the version had been increasing without seeing a release publique in between. Until June. The jump from 1.03 to 1.11. But i'll try to get the next non-beta version shared as soon as possible. Still debugging FW1.12beta.

    If PCLS works fine on your system (say 64-bit Win10, old USB cable, whatever) by successfully logging hours-long full runs without USB connection breaks, then you're on the safe side and should try to update the FW through your very system.
    It'll be difficult to predict the date/version of the next fw release, more new random bugs might come along.

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