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  1. #5071

    Default Re: MC3000 vs C4

    Quote Originally Posted by fmc1 View Post
    Take a look at post #4767 in this thread. Getting the display out of the old case was the hardest part for me. I had to heat it up quite a bit.

    Frank
    Hi Frank...appreciate the help, I opened up my unit and it looks like there's no white glue holding in the display or other components, just screws, so I shouldn't have any problems...hopefully !!

    I did find this YouTube video helpful for reassembly...Thank you


    Last edited by Mp0w3r; 04-08-2018 at 09:10 AM.

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    Default Re: MC3000 vs C4

    Quote Originally Posted by Mp0w3r View Post
    Hi Frank...appreciate the help, I opened up my unit and it looks like there's no white glue holding in the display or other components, just screws, so I shouldn't have any problems...hopefully !!

    I did find this YouTube video helpful for reassembly...Thank you
    I thought the video was helpful. I actually received the replacement case prior to the video being posted but I did not swap it out until later. By that time I had already bought another post June 2016 unit, this time from a US seller with the upgraded case and I was using that one. I think it’s only the very early units that had no glue. On my post June 2016 unit the display, the display connectors, the button connectors and even the fan is glued in. Fortunately the glue falls apart with some heat. The screw posts on the new case were thicker than the old one so I had to open the holds up a little on the PCB.


    Good luck with the swap.


    Frank

  3. #5073

    Default Re: MC3000 vs C4

    Just out of interest, why did you need to open the case of a post June 2016 version?


    Quote Originally Posted by fmc1 View Post
    I thought the video was helpful. I actually received the replacement case prior to the video being posted but I did not swap it out until later. By that time I had already bought another post June 2016 unit, this time from a US seller with the upgraded case and I was using that one. I think it’s only the very early units that had no glue. On my post June 2016 unit the display, the display connectors, the button connectors and even the fan is glued in. Fortunately the glue falls apart with some heat. The screw posts on the new case were thicker than the old one so I had to open the holds up a little on the PCB.


    Good luck with the swap.


    Frank
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    Default Re: MC3000 vs C4

    Quote Originally Posted by 7histology View Post
    Just out of interest, why did you need to open the case of a post June 2016 version?
    I wanted to see the changes in the newer case.

  5. #5075

    Default Re: MC3000 vs C4

    Anyone know where to find a replacement fan?

    Will a 12v work or does it need to be 15v?

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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    IDEA:
    1. Rename CAPACITY: to CUT CAPAC:
    2. Organize the possibility of charging / discharging for Ni-Cd and Ni-MH
    asymmetrical current (see figure).
    Call this mode MODE: ASYMMET
    Change the intervals for C. RESTING and D.RESTING (0 ms - 10 s, with the smallest possible multiplicity for current stabilization)
    CYCLE COUNT: OFF
    CYCLE MODE: OFF
    TARGET VOLT: 1.65V (not to recharge)
    DELTA PEAK:? (while to leave, research is needed)
    D.REDUCE: -x.xx (Leave)
    CUT VOLT: 1.00 (Leave)
    Enter two parameters: C.TIME and D.TIME (0 ms - 10 s, with the minimum possible multiplicity for stabilizing the current)


    This mode will allow you to drive as a charge (with C.CURRENT * C.TIME > D.CURRENT * D.TIME)
    and discharge (at C.CURRENT * C.TME < D.CURRENT * D.TIME).


    P.S. How is it possible to get the v1.14 beta firmware for testing?

  7. #5077

    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    What's happened to the squirrel?
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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Quote Originally Posted by 7histology View Post
    What's happened to the squirrel?
    Likely SkyRC decided they had invested enough into the development of this charger. So he could be hibernating for the winter, trying to crack a bigger nut, or as sometimes happens to squirrels ....

    OK you were probably not looking for speculation, sorry about that.

  9. #5079

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    Likely you are correct - too bad about that.





    Quote Originally Posted by StandardBattery View Post
    Likely SkyRC decided they had invested enough into the development of this charger. So he could be hibernating for the winter, trying to crack a bigger nut, or as sometimes happens to squirrels ....

    OK you were probably not looking for speculation, sorry about that.
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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Quote Originally Posted by sbj View Post
    Where to get the FW1.14B ?
    Becouse I have LTO CELLs (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xcpS4PQfWQs) and cells need charge and ......
    And tooday I use manual (visual) charge control (end voltage = 2.8V) in LiFePo4 profile.
    Last edited by inetchik; 05-06-2018 at 03:37 AM.

  11. #5081

    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Quote Originally Posted by inetchik View Post
    Where to get the FW1.14B ?
    Becouse I have LTO CELLs .
    I have Beta 1.14. hasnt been released yet because has few other bugs as listed in de list. Hybernating sounds about correct. I'll wake up after Wimbledon 2018

    Feel free to contact skyrc and ask, they might give beta to you since you really have \need lto.

    Congrats to owning lto. They are very hard to obtain.
    ~ bitterness about poor quality remains long after sweetness of low price is forgotten ~

  12. #5082

    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    You're back!!!?



    Quote Originally Posted by kreisl View Post
    I have Beta 1.14. hasnt been released yet because has few other bugs as listed in de list. Hybernating sounds about correct. I'll wake up after Wimbledon 2018

    Feel free to contact skyrc and ask, they might give beta to you since you really have \need lto.

    Congrats to owning lto. They are very hard to obtain.
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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Hello, kreisl.
    Quote Originally Posted by kreisl View Post
    I have Beta 1.14.....
    Thanks for replying to PM.

    I wrote a question, with link for video, on skyrc support.
    I got a response from them: " ..... on testing LTO firmware...."
    Much water has flowed since that time and there is no changes (no progress).


    Maybe you give me FW with bugs for testing too ?
    Or, I'll wait for the end of Wimbledon 2018.

    LTO cells to buy easily: aliexpress (https://ru.aliexpress.com/af/%25D1%2582%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD %25D0%25B0%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0-lto.html?SearchText=титаната+lto&blanktest=0&initi ative_id=RS_20180507045220&origin=n&jump=afs), or ebay, or .... . I bought on taobao.

    BR,
    Last edited by inetchik; 05-07-2018 at 06:01 AM.

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    Post Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Hi there,

    I'm new to charging 18650 and I wanted to start the right way.
    I began in March to learn how to handle 18650.
    After I read all the positive things about the MC3000 I bought one in the same Month and a second one last week.
    As the original Software is not that perfect and in most discussions Data Explorer is recommended I would like to try that Software.
    But unfortunately I don't find my right way into this program, except for the handbook. But I didn't find anything that explaines the handling like installing or how it is possible to start the charging process with DEX.

    So can someone give me a hint how to use DEX with:
    1. More then one Instance on a PC for at least two MC3000 connected, additionally an Imax B6 mini....
    or
    2a. how to install it on a raspberry
    2b. how to use it there for at least two chargers ( so again 2 instances )
    Else I'm really lost with this software.

    Thanks in advance


    cadric

  15. #5085

    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Is there a SKYRC MC3000 thread or link to vetted programs for various batteries types/capacities?

  16. #5086

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    ........
    Last edited by klrman; 05-19-2018 at 01:09 AM.

  17. #5087

    Default Re: Problems with MC3000 turning on

    Hello,

    I haven't used the MC3000 for a several weeks.

    I have stored in a safe place and today pulled it out, connected the Skyrc PSU to the MC3000's 12V jack and then plugged in the PSU using it's AC cord.

    The MC3000 momentarily turns on then turns off. I've tried several times disconnecting and plugging in the ac cord and MC3000 keeps momentarily turning ON then OFF.

    When I try plugging in the 12 DC jack from the rear of the MC3000 nothing happens. The MC3000 only turns on momentarily while the AC/DC power adapter is plugged into the DC jack and then AC cord is then plugged into the ac/dc adapter.

    I checked the PSU for dc output voltage and it measures ~15.2 VDC, AC input is ~115 VAC.

    I've also tried jiggling the cords to determine perhaps there is a break in one of the cords with no results.

    I'm thinking there's either a problem with the MC3000 or it's SkyRC AC/DC PSU.

    The SkyRC PSU-60W measures a steady ~15.2 DC volts output, I'm not certain of it's current. The PSU-60W is rated as 15V === 4A. MC3000's DC input shows 11-18 V.

    When purchasing the MC3000 I also purchase a Square Trade Warranty for MC3000 which is good for three years after the purchase date of 2/28/2016.

    I'm wondering what else to check and test before creating a claim with Square Trade?

    Possibly there's something wrong with PSU-60W power supply? Putting out too little current?

    I haven't yet tried testing the MC3000 using a volt dc jack connected to a 12 volt power source.
    Last edited by Albert_; 05-28-2018 at 07:42 PM.

  18. #5088

    Default Re: Problems with MC3000 turning on

    If you dont have another psu you can try connecting it to a PC PSU on the 12v line, to make sure if its the power supply fault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Albert_ View Post
    Hello,

    I haven't used the MC3000 for a several weeks.

    I have stored in a safe place and today pulled it out, connected the Skyrc PSU to the MC3000's 12V jack and then plugged in the PSU using it's AC cord.

    The MC3000 momentarily turns on then turns off. I've tried several times disconnecting and plugging in the ac cord and MC3000 keeps momentarily turning ON then OFF.

    When I try plugging in the 12 DC jack from the rear of the MC3000 nothing happens. The MC3000 only turns on momentarily while the AC/DC power adapter is plugged into the DC jack and then AC cord is then plugged into the ac/dc adapter.

    I checked the PSU for dc output voltage and it measures ~15.2 VDC, AC input is ~115 VAC.

    I've also tried jiggling the cords to determine perhaps there is a break in one of the cords with no results.

    I'm thinking there's either a problem with the MC3000 or it's SkyRC AC/DC PSU.

    The SkyRC PSU-60W measures a steady ~15.2 DC volts output, I'm not certain of it's current. The PSU-60W is rated as 15V === 4A. MC3000's DC input shows 11-18 V.

    When purchasing the MC3000 I also purchase a Square Trade Warranty for MC3000 which is good for three years after the purchase date of 2/28/2016.

    I'm wondering what else to check and test before creating a claim with Square Trade?

    Possibly there's something wrong with PSU-60W power supply? Putting out too little current?

    I have some spare lead acid batteries such as a Group 31 AGM and some open cell RV/Boat batteries and haven't yet tried testing using my own diy 12 volt dc jack.

  19. #5089

    Default Re: Problems with MC3000 turning on

    Quote Originally Posted by DeJaVu View Post
    If you dont have another psu you can try connecting it to a PC PSU on the 12v line, to make sure if its the power supply fault.
    All I have are 12 volt lead acid batteries and a few DC plugs of which one should be the correct size.

    If it fails to power on while connected to a 12 volt car or RV/Boat battery I was planning on filing a claim.

    I seem to remember reading about the SkyRC psu's failing. Initially I was going to try and find a better quality PSU, but never go around to it.

  20. #5090

    Default Re: Problems with MC3000 turning on

    I found a cig lighter adapter with difference size DC power jacks, one of which is the correct size for the MC3000.

    Plugged the adapter into the a car's cig. lighter and started the car to obtain approx. ~13.8 volts from the battery and alternator.

    Plugged in the DC jack to the MC3000 and nothing, then re-plugged in the cig lighter adapter with the dc jack plugged in, and got the same behavior as when using the SkyRC PSU-60W power supply. (power on then off).

    So apparently the problem is with the MC3000?

    I can't think of any other testing to perform. The M3000 was working just fine the last time I charged a set of batteries a while back.

    I went ahead and filed a claim online as it's still covered by a Square Trade Warranty. The warrany was oked and wants me to give it to a electronic repair shop for repair.
    Last edited by Albert_; 05-29-2018 at 09:49 AM.

  21. #5091

    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    I just found German 1.14 manual on SkyRC site. Maybe they're going to release FW 1.14...

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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaBene View Post
    I just found German 1.14 manual on SkyRC site.....
    Thanks, LTO in specs.
    Last edited by inetchik; 05-30-2018 at 04:53 AM.

  23. #5093

    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Well SquareTrade to agreed to re-reimburse me $99.99 if I send the non-working charger to them.

    At first they wanted me to have the MC3000 repaired where I would upload the repaired bill to be reimbursed. However after some research of calling and e-mailing repair shops the minimum repair amount is ~$100.00. I'm told by the some repair shops that they have no schematics, parts list and/or service manual which would increase labor charges.

    All have an one hour min. and labor rates of approx. ~$100.00 - ~$125.00 per hour.

    I told this to Squaretrade and they responded to provide a repair quote, but none of the shops wanted to provide an official repair quote estimate.

    After telling this to Squaretrade they agreed to re-reimburse me for $99.99 where I will ship the non working charger back to them where they provide a free FedEx shipping label.

    Anyway my 3 year warranty covers $99.99 which I'll be re-reimbursed.

    I'm going for the MC3000 sold by ProgressiveRC on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...k_ql_qh_dp_hza

    Amazon has two different optional 4 year warranties $100-$124.99 for ~$8.50

    One from SquareTrade https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...k_ql_qh_dp_hza

    And the other from ASURION https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...OY0ZHFVY&psc=1

    Haven't decided which one to go with. SquareTrade did honor the previous 3 year warranty. However at first they wanted a repair quote which none of the shops contacted would provide. Shops were a ways away from 30 to over 125 miles so I only called them and none that I contacted wanted to provide an official quote on paper to repair the charger.
    Last edited by Albert_; 06-05-2018 at 06:40 PM.

  24. #5094

    Thumbs up Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    FW 1.14 just released

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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaBene View Post
    FW 1.14 just released
    Thanks for letting us know!

    I just upgraded with no issues.

    (Note: The way I upgrade is to pull the power and USB out, then plug the power back in with the enter button pressed. This boots it up to a blank screen, it's in firmware update mode already. Then plug the USB in and run the upgrade. It seems to work well this way, no chance of it failing)

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    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    Quote Originally Posted by tjh View Post
    I just upgraded with no issues.
    The Russi*ns h*ve h*cked it *lre*dy. Their g*mes p*tch works fine! - I h*ve upgr*ded with no issues too

  27. #5097

    Default Re: SkyRC — IFA 2014 / CES 2016 — MC3000 charger-analyzer

    I successfully updated to FW 1.14 too. My procedure was to unzip MC3000_Firmware_Update_V1.14.rar and follow the readme.txt.

    In essence if you try to follow the upgrade procedure in the original (FW V1.13) manual then MC3000 Monitor V1.03 will return "Can't get firmware from internet" when you [Checking (sic) for new version]. There will be no opportunity, therefore, to update from there as the [Update] button remains disabled. Moreover I'm not sure how TJH's procedure gets around that problem.

    Anyway the essential tip from the readme.txt is

    > 1. Read the above full QUOTE and follow all instructions, even though the PC Link software does not find the firmware on the update server.
    >
    > 2. Now close the PC Link software. We don't need it anymore. We only needed it to test the reliability and stability of your USB communication ...
    >
    > 3. Finally launch the provided *.EXE [UpgradeFrimware_MC3000_V1.14.exe], and click on the 'Update' button. ....


    This resulted in a factory reset. So you'll have to reprogram your settings.

    The key improvement in the firmware that I've so far noticed is that "Global Setup View" now contains 8 key combo shortcuts (Up+ SNB#N; and Down + SNB#N).

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