Will the EPA EnergyStar v1.1 spec mean more 4000K LED bulbs on the market?

The EPA EnergyStar spec v1.1 means more ominidirectional light, with marketing claimed "300 degree beam angle", and if I read it correctly, 4000K EPA certified bulbs.

I hope this is what it takes to get 4000K bulbs on shelves.

The Green Creative Series 4.0 looks nice
http://www.gc-lighting.com/wp-content/uploads/GREEN-CREATIVE-9A19G4DIM-A19-9W.pdf

Looks great.

One thing could be better : CRI. 90+ bulbs are not common, and correct color rendering is something important I think.

Feit launched a sub-line that are claimed 93+CRI, but at the 2700K CCT.

Maybe it is time to send them an email asking for 4k CCT.

Hi CRI is more difficult to reach at higher °K.

Do you prefer 4000°k ? For me 3000-3200°k in really good in house general lighting.

Well, I am not old enough that I need 5000K, I find it too blue for interior lighting.
3000K is much better than 2700K, but I wouldn't mind 4000K for rooms that aren't for lounging/sleeping/eating.

Its an age thing? Really?

I've changed all the lights of my parents house with 6500K fluorescent tubes, and 6500k LED omnidirectional bulbs, and they really like it because they are whiter.

So age is one factor I guess!

Wow 6500K in house, it should flash ! With this you never sleep

MichaelW Yes 4000°k can be good for some house usage
I work on a 5000K for my garage it should give a "industrial" look

6500K? Man I just bought 2 of the Philips paddle led bulbs today in 5000k to mix in lamps with 3000k philips bulbs from last year. It gives a sort of fake 4000k mixed lighting look but yeah those 5000k bulbs still look too blue in my opinion overall and definitely way too cold by themselves indoors at night.

6500k would be crazy for me. Honestly though I think the bigger problem that makes 5000k and 6000k+ seem so blue is that the CRI is so bad. If the 5000k bulbs were super high cri they would be much more pleasing.

I have 2 of the cree 2700k 800 lumen high cri bulbs (90-93cri I think? Can't remember) and they definitely do saturate colors, but still you don't notice that as much because they are so warm. Super high cri at 4000-4500k is where it's at for me Anything to get as close as possible to actual warmish sunlight coming in as possible.

I certainly hope that we see some options other than 2700 and 5000 on the market. But I've said that at least twice now....

Mkala said:

Hi CRI is more difficult to reach at higher °K.

Do you prefer 4000°k ? For me 3000-3200°k in really good in house general lighting.

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I would like to see something between 3000 and 3500. 3200 might be just right.

martinaee said:

6500K? Man I just bought 2 of the Philips paddle led bulbs today in 5000k to mix in lamps with 3000k philips bulbs from last year. It gives a sort of fake 4000k mixed lighting look but yeah those 5000k bulbs still look too blue in my opinion overall and definitely way too cold by themselves indoors at night.

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I tried that in my bedroom. The effect is not quite what I hoped for since the mixing is quite uneven in a 2-bulb fixture with the bulbs pointed opposite directions. The 5000K also seems brighter than the 2700K even though rated lumens are the same.

6500k would be crazy for me. Honestly though I think the bigger problem that makes 5000k and 6000k+ seem so blue is that the CRI is so bad. If the 5000k bulbs were super high cri they would be much more pleasing.

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I agree. 5000 is OK for utility rooms, work areas, and kitchens. I've got my limits otherwise.

I have 2 of the cree 2700k 800 lumen high cri bulbs (90-93cri I think? Can't remember) and they definitely do saturate colors, but still you don't notice that as much because they are so warm. Super high cri at 4000-4500k is where it's at for me Anything to get as close as possible to actual warmish sunlight coming in as possible.

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This. While the rendering may be better per instrumentation or standardized testing methods, the heavy visual emphasis on the red end of the spectrum negates the benefits for me. A high-CRI neutral would be great.

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