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    HOLY COW!!!
    Now that folks...is something to get all whipped into a frenzy about...
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    Default Re: TorchLAB V5 Triple LED drop ins - Programming, 3500L, Secondary LED

    The more I use this, indoors and out, the happier I am with the tint of the XPL's, the beam pattern, and the programmability. A quick screenshot makes it easy to remember what you've got going on, and dropping or bumping a level or two is cake. Very impressive so far!

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    You wouldn't happen to have a v5 triple copper e or a v5 wasp to compare this to, would you? Dan said that the tint for the v5 p60 is slightly cooler. Just wondering how it compares to the other v5 triples.

    Quote Originally Posted by scout24 View Post
    The more I use this, indoors and out, the happier I am with the tint of the XPL's, the beam pattern, and the programmability. A quick screenshot makes it easy to remember what you've got going on, and dropping or bumping a level or two is cake. Very impressive so far!
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    As soon as my xpl and 219 drop ins come in, I'll take a comparison shot between them and my v5 wasp

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    I have an XP-L Wasp head and just got an XP-L drop-in. I would call the Wasp 4500K, and the drop somewhere between 4750-5000K. I like the drop color better. Now I want a new board for my Wasp to match as I prefer neutral. Hope that helps...

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    Yeah. Dan says triple e and wasps are 4000k and the drops are 4500k so your comments are consistent. Thanks for the comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by th8tredude View Post
    I have an XP-L Wasp head and just got an XP-L drop-in. I would call the Wasp 4500K, and the drop somewhere between 4750-5000K. I like the drop color better. Now I want a new board for my Wasp to match as I prefer neutral. Hope that helps...
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    Yeah, there seems to be multiple color scales in play. Here is ours:

    6000 - cool
    5000 - slightly cool
    4500 - neutral (219 + latest XPL)
    4000 - slightly warm (E XPL and summer Wasp XPL)
    3000 - warm


    People vying for neutral don't like any cool but many like slightly warm.
    So we tend to gravitate between 4000 and 4500.
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    Hard to tell the difference between the two dropins (XP-L vs. 219) on a single battery without a color reference. The 219 appears slightly warmer though. Both are awesome.

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    First, I want to thank the Oveready Team for the super fast delivery of my drop in. I have been playing with the voltage and programming. It usually takes me a few tries with my tablet to set a program but it has been working pretty consistently.

    It may be due to the frosted optics but I can only get bounce to work with single cell and McClickie switch. When I switch to a zerores switch the drop in goes to red as soon as I go to afterburner. This isn't a big deal from a usability standpoint but may indicate slightly more output with a ZRS installed. There is no perceived difference to my eyes though.

    I currently swap between two programs, a daytime program with L-M-H, and a nighttime program with R-D-M-H, with the high more of a medium+. I find the red emitter very useful for midnight diaper changes without waking others sleeping.
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    Consider reducing sensitivity of the Bounce feature if your light is going to red while not reflecting off of something close. I put white electrical tape in the bottom of my flashlight holsters to get enough reflection for the Bounce feature to activate, at the level of sensitivity I use.

    Have you tried the battery gauge? Must be so handy for users!

    And the tint? I'm sure it is great in snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KITROBASKIN View Post
    Consider reducing sensitivity of the Bounce feature if your light is going to red while not reflecting off of something close. I put white electrical tape in the bottom of my flashlight holsters to get enough reflection for the Bounce feature to activate, at the level of sensitivity I use.

    Have you tried the battery gauge? Must be so handy for users!

    And the tint? I'm sure it is great in snow.
    I just have not spent enough with the bounce setting and it may not work with the same setting for 1 and 2 cell configurations. At the moment I am not concerned.

    The tint on my light is very nice. I would describe it as white toward the yellow end. Definitely not angry blue or green. Mine is an XPL.

    The battery meter is a cool feature. I find it useful. I was just playing with the light in the backyard and I noticed the step down during continuous use as I have stretch enabled.

    I am very pleased so far.
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    hey i'm confusing with the IMR 18650 battery to power these drop-in. what is the suit battery can be use. i'm confusing with current draw from the battery. some has 20, 25, and 30 amps. different brand and capacity different amp draw. please help me. what is the best cell to use. Yeah i know oveready higly recomended using aw cell. If just in case dont have that option or if i want to try diferrent brand is it ok?
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    Paskal, batteries can be very confusing so I will state my understanding and experience. IMR is a battery chemistry which provides the high drain needed for this drop in. I have used AW IMR cells and efest purple IMR cells. I have had good luck with both brands and both can be purchased on Amazon. Hope that helps.
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    It really depends what you intend to do..

    For single cell use, you want the highest capacity with good high current handling characteristics. I'd go for something IMR or hybrid for single 18650 use as you want the most current with least voltage sag. 5 amps will cause a fair sag on lesser quality cells so you will notice less light coming out for less time. I only have an E2E so my choice in 18650 is limited to smaller diameter cells - so far all I can fit is LG HG2 cells which provide ample output and runtime for my needs. You may find a cell has better capacity or current handling characteristics but will need to do some research..

    For two 18650s in series however, your choices are a bit more diverse, the driver will only pull like 3-4 amps off two cells so you could easily get away with a pair of Panasonic/Sanyo NCR18650GA. You could arguably use this cell for single cell use but some people prefer the claimed higher maximum discharge of something like a Samsung 25R or Sony VTC5 etc at the expense of a good chunk of runtime.

    I literally spent hours figuring out which cell to go for, in the end it was mainly dictated by the battery tube so your options may take longer to filter through. I found the e-cig forums pretty invaluable for info as they seem to put a LOT more strain on their cells than we do. We think we're big time rocking a sub 10A light. Those guys are pumping over 20A through a device designed to be used within inches of ones' face..

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    Incorrect statement about 2x 18650. The v5/371 LE can pull 5-6 amps from two cells if AB mode is selected and the battery gets low. So, if you want to pull 17W from one cell and you programmed AB mode with 2 cell, please make sure your batteries rated to handle at least 6 amps.
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    Ok thanks all. Lets say if im using single IMR 18650 rating by manufacturer 25 amp is it safe to run with these drop in
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    Quote Originally Posted by quazzle View Post
    The v5/371 LE can pull 5-6 amps from two cells if AB mode is selected and the battery gets low. So, if you want to pull 17W from one cell and you programmed AB mode with 2 cell, please make sure your batteries rated to handle at least 6 amps.
    What's this AB mode of which you speak? Are you referring to an absence of battery stretch?

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    I think AB is afterburner or level 33, the highest output level with 2 cells.

    Paskal, an 18650 IMR with 25A discharge rating should be fine with this drop in. What brand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingle1911 View Post
    I think AB is afterburner or level 33, the highest output level with 2 cells.

    Paskal, an 18650 IMR with 25A discharge rating should be fine with this drop in. What brand?
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    I was taking the dogs for a walk with my Oveready bored Z2 HA Back tonight enjoying the rain.



    It houses an older V4 Triple XP-E2, and to my eyes it seems to throw further than my triple XP-L E1E. Two things came to mind. Firstly, how would I even know if the light I have has XP-L emitters in it as opposed to say Nichia, and secondly (and more importantly for this thread) if the XP-E2 does indeed throw further, are there any plans to do a V5 XP-E2 drop in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskal View Post
    xtar XTVTC4 actually i have few bought for vape. thats why ask in case it can be use or not

    http://www.xtarlight.com/05-chanpin/...sp?styleid=334
    I have had good luck with XTAR products. From the reviews I have read in the CPF battery section others agree. A quick search did not reveal any XTAR battery explosion threads. So all signs are looking toward these as good cells.

    The only additional comment that I have is the flat top of the cell as opposed to a button top. In one of my hosts when using the ZeroResShorty (ZRS) instead of a switch, the spring on the drop in was not long enough to operate the drop in, but if it works in your host I would say go ahead and light up the dark.
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    XPE throws further due to the smaller die, that's no big surprise at all. Even with the re-dome, XPL is a way bigger die, therefore throw dimishes compared to XPE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingle1911 View Post
    I have had good luck with XTAR products. From the reviews I have read in the CPF battery section others agree. A quick search did not reveal any XTAR battery explosion threads. So all signs are looking toward these as good cells.

    The only additional comment that I have is the flat top of the cell as opposed to a button top. In one of my hosts when using the ZeroResShorty (ZRS) instead of a switch, the spring on the drop in was not long enough to operate the drop in, but if it works in your host I would say go ahead and light up the dark.
    thank you. from the mail tracking the drop-in will expected arrive tomorrow. will run this drop-in in 6P.
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    Very nice pic! Oveready custom bk ha Z2. Not too many of these in the world.





    Quote Originally Posted by FPSRelic View Post
    I was taking the dogs for a walk with my Oveready bored Z2 HA Back tonight enjoying the rain.



    It houses an older V4 Triple XP-E2, and to my eyes it seems to throw further than my triple XP-L E1E. Two things came to mind. Firstly, how would I even know if the light I have has XP-L emitters in it as opposed to say Nichia, and secondly (and more importantly for this thread) if the XP-E2 does indeed throw further, are there any plans to do a V5 XP-E2 drop in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliceScannerMan View Post
    XPE throws further due to the smaller die, that's no big surprise at all. Even with the re-dome, XPL is a way bigger die, therefore throw dimishes compared to XPE.
    Thats certainly what I'm seeing. I've always been a fan of the XPE based triples over the XPG ones for this reason. I wasn't sure if the XPL ones would be able to match the throw of the XOE ones through brute force of output alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badtziscool View Post
    Very nice pic! Oveready custom bk ha Z2. Not too many of these in the world.

    Cheers.

    I missed out on the GITD lights they did like the one in your avatar, but I was able to pick this up from one of their last Z2 custom runs. I have an Oveready bored Z2 old logo with the standard coating from them as well, but I prefer to use this one as that coating is as hard as nails, and it has that stealth look to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FPSRelic View Post
    I was taking the dogs for a walk with my Oveready bored Z2 HA Back tonight enjoying the rain.



    It houses an older V4 Triple XP-E2, and to my eyes it seems to throw further than my triple XP-L E1E. Two things came to mind. Firstly, how would I even know if the light I have has XP-L emitters in it as opposed to say Nichia, and secondly (and more importantly for this thread) if the XP-E2 does indeed throw further, are there any plans to do a V5 XP-E2 drop in?
    Look'n good!

    The way I tell 219 from XPL is the shape. Nichia tends to make round looking dies while XPL looks very square because there is no dome. Slowly rotate the head and even through the optics (at an angle) in a fully installed in a light - you can see the corners on the XPL. 219 doesnt show corners. XPL corners:




    XPL is our lumen specialist
    219 is our color specialist
    We do want a throw specialist but have not yet selected one.

    We could do XPE2 but its a bit long in the tooth. If we can find something that handles more power than the cree, for example, we won't have to limit power as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FPSRelic View Post
    Thats certainly what I'm seeing. I've always been a fan of the XPE based triples over the XPG ones for this reason. I wasn't sure if the XPL ones would be able to match the throw of the XOE ones through brute force of output alone.
    The XP-L is way more of a room lighter comparing my V5 E head. I much prefer the beam profile of my V4 XP-E2 drop in.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    We could do XPE2 but its a bit long in the tooth. If we can find something that handles more power than the cree, for example, we won't have to limit power as much.
    For me this would be very cool. I'd love to have a V5 with the XP-E2 (or XP-E2 beam profile) option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    Look'n good!

    The way I tell 219 from XPL is the shape. Nichia tends to make round looking dies while XPL looks very square because there is no dome. Slowly rotate the head and even through the optics (at an angle) in a fully installed in a light - you can see the corners on the XPL. 219 doesnt show corners.

    XPL is our lumen specialist
    219 is our color specialist
    We do want a throw specialist but have not yet selected one.

    We could do XPE2 but its a bit long in the tooth. If we can find something that handles more power than the cree, for example, we won't have to limit power as much.
    Thanks for that.

    I would suggest the the new Golden Dragon emitter like the one used in Surrfire's eb1 as an option, but I know how you guys don't like ugly green tints.

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    At 0.18 lumens I can actually look at the emitters while they are on. Has anyone else noticed that one of the emitters seems brighter than the others? I can only see this on level 1 and it is not apparent in the projected beam even when white wall hunting. Just curious.

    I still love this light. 0.18 to nearly 3500 lumens in the same light is impressive. I also like the usefulness of the red emitter. Thanks Oveready.
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