Re: Philips "Vision" vs "VisionPlus" vs "X-treme Vision"
Are you guys sponsored by Philips?
No.
Why was my guess incorrect?
Because it was a factoid asserted without any basis in reality, fact, or data.
Yes I did a direct comparison between Vision and X-Treme Vision (see below).
You didn't meaningfully compare anything relevant about these bulbs.
If he's in Australia, he goes to a local shop and buys Narva bulbs, where does his money go?
Some of it goes to the retailer. Some of it goes to the government. Some of it goes to the distributor. Some of it goes to the manufacturer. None of that's really germane here.
I didn't know you did back to back testing on the same set of headlights on the one same car at the same time of day (within 30 minutes time frame) with different bulbs.
There is no basis for this arbitrary 30-minute thing you're throwing around, and your idea of how to test things like headlamps is imaginative but not realistic.
How do you know the Narva bulb I'm talking about is brighter and whiter
Some of us on this forum have a great deal of knowledge about what's out there in terms of vehicle lighting components and what they do and don't do relative to the marketing claims made for them (and regurgitated by those who know only what they think they've understood of what they've been told).
Shame I didn't have a good camera
Not really. The dynamic range of a photograph (film or digital) is so much narrower than that of the human visual system that photographs of headlamps and beam patterns aren't useful, helpful, or informative.
(my time frame would have gone beyond 1hr, too much variance for you guys?).
Again with arbitrary timeframes. I'm not sure where this fixation of yours comes from.
When I compare a standard halogen bulb to one of these blue tinted ones, the "bluer" bulbs appear "whiter" because I'm comparing ~3200K to ~4000K.
You're speaking in subjective terms that have no basis in reality, with make-believe Kelvin numbers tacked on. This isn't really your fault; it didn't originate with you, it originated with marketers trying to sell blue bulbs (great gig: higher price, shorter life, visible fashion-oriented sales "hook"). But while you didn't make this stuff up, you did repeat it, and it's still not true or correct.
My apologies for providing an alternative to Philips (Osram isn't as big in Australia)
A lot of Osram bulbs are sold in Australia -- many branded "Narva".
with my first hand testing
So far you've presented no evidence of testing. You've installed a variety of bulbs in your car and expressed some subjective opinions. That's not testing, and it's not research. Our human visual system is not capable of accurately assessing how well we can see or how well a headlamp works...but it does a fine job of fooling us!
What a surprise that $60 Narva Blue Plus 90 performed better than $60 Philips Vision eh?
It didn't, you just felt like it did.
And yes, some H4 reflectors are "better" than others
No sneer-quotes required; for any given kind of headlamp (say, H4 of a given size and shape) there is an enormous range of performance possible depending on the efficiency and quality of the optics, materials, and build.
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