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    What are the latest and greatest performing D2R bulbs? I am looking to get replacements and want only the best. Are there any new offerings or products just around the corner? Thank You!

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    Welcome to the board. The best D2R is this one, by a fairly large margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Virgil- View Post
    Welcome to the board. The best D2R is this one, by a fairly large margin.
    Are these better? http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/85126XV...headlight-bulb

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    The color temperature of the one -Virgil- linked is a tad warmer at 4700K vs 4800K for the capsule you linked.

    Even warmer still is this: http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/xe...r-85126-single at 4400K.

    Still, part of what makes what -Virgil- linked the better performer is higher precision leading to better beam focus. Beam focus is one of the greater determinants of a lamp's performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEOUTLANDER View Post
    Yes, that's the newly-released update to the one I linked. If you can actually get ahold of it, go for that one.

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    Hey guys thank you for your help. I was being told by alot of people that Osram were the best D2R bulbs in particular these http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/xe...nse-d2r-single but it seems that you guys can agree Philips is ahead of OSRAM technology correct

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    Are These Authentic? Would They Fit in My D2R Headlights? Are They Better Than The Philips Xtreme Vision Gen 2? http://www.carlight.philips.co.jp/li...tinon-HID.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEOUTLANDER View Post
    Are These Authentic?
    Dubious. There is no such thing as a "D2S/R" bulb. D2S and D2R are two different bulbs.

    Are They Better Than The Philips Xtreme Vision
    Definitely not.

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    It's actually Philips' site, but still-- there's a D2S and a D2R, there's no dual-purpose product.

    And 6200K? Yuck. Not for the aesthetics-- for the human optical system and how they'll be unsuitable for how our eyes work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaric Darconville View Post
    Still, part of what makes what -Virgil- linked the better performer is higher precision leading to better beam focus. Beam focus is one of the greater determinants of a lamp's performance.
    Somewhat related question - so part of using OEM headlights is that the base the bulb sits against, and its alignment to/with the reflector need to be spot on for the precision in the bulb to be... precise... in relation to the reflector, correct?

    So to keep the precision for maximum headlamp performance it is imperative that the headlamp's base and reflector are aligned so a proper bulb will be exactly in the right spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameli0rate View Post
    Somewhat related question - so part of using OEM headlights is that the base the bulb sits against, and its alignment to/with the reflector need to be spot on for the precision in the bulb to be... precise... in relation to the reflector, correct?
    Yes.

    So to keep the precision for maximum headlamp performance it is imperative that the headlamp's base and reflector are aligned so a proper bulb will be exactly in the right spot.
    Yes...but why wouldn't they be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Virgil- View Post
    Yes...but why wouldn't they be?
    I was just thinking of the myriad TYC, DEPO and other half-of-OEM priced headlights on eBay and Amazon. I'm thinking they're saving money on R&D and just make it fit in the car..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameli0rate View Post
    I was just thinking of the myriad TYC, DEPO and other half-of-OEM priced headlights on eBay and Amazon. I'm thinking they're saving money on R&D and just make it fit in the car..?
    Sometimes those lamps don't even fit the car.

    From CAPA
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    The headlamp models selected for this study included a left hand (LH) 20002003 Ford Taurus, and a left hand (LH) 2000-2001 Toyota Camry. These models were found to be two of the top ten selling vehicles in the United States and therefore represent a significant quantity of lamps produced for the market. Five (5) headlamps manufactured by the original equipment replacement manufacturer, TYC and DEPO were purchased for each vehicle model (30 total samples). The headlamps were purchased through the same distribution network that a collision repair shop would utilize to procure replacement parts produced by both original equipment replacement and independent manufacturers. Photometric testing was performed on five (5) headlamps for each model and from each manufacturer, with the exception of the DEPO Ford Taurus headlamp, which could not be mounted to the photometric fixture based upon OEM in-vehicle position mounting point data. The lot numbers of the test headlamps are provided in Table 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaric Darconville View Post
    Sometimes those lamps don't even fit the car.
    LOL What an epic fail!

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    Where can I buy legit Philips Xtreme Vision Gen 2 D2R bulbs?

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    Powerbulbs.com will have legit ones, if they have them.
    Last edited by Alaric Darconville; 10-27-2016 at 08:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaric Darconville View Post
    Powerbulbs.com will have legit ones, if they have them.
    Powerbulbs.com maybe a good vendor overall, but I found these on their site. Looks like they're giving in to marketing hype.
    http://www.powerbulbs.com/us/product...her-control-h3

    This looks like complete junk to me.

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    Yep, that is complete junk. I've noticed an onset of crummy products on their site, too, since the founder of the company handed over control to some new people. But they remain reliable (at least for now, in my experience) for buying legitimate Philips and Osram products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KXA View Post
    Looks like they're giving in to marketing hype.

    This looks like complete junk to me.
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    The specialist rainbow coating on the glass of the bulb dims or clears up depending on the atmospheric conditions. In misty or rainy conditions, the bulb will produce a brighter beam so that you can see the road ahead with ease.
    Geeze, they might as well say they whiten your teeth while you drive.

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    That quote from powerbulbs wants to make me puke. What BS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KXA View Post
    That quote from powerbulbs wants to make me puke. What BS!
    Wow, those be some intelligent bulbs, I wonder how that performance miracle is achieved ? There is gold at the end of the light beam as well, due to the rainbow coating affect.
    Those are only H3 bulbs, the HID versions must be truly amazing.

    "the bulb will produce a brighter beam so that you can see the road ahead with ease. Please note: this bulb is not road legal. They play this game too.
    Last edited by XeRay; 10-28-2016 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaric Darconville View Post
    It's actually Philips' site, but still-- there's a D2S and a D2R, there's no dual-purpose product.
    Quote Originally Posted by -Virgil- View Post
    Dubious. There is no such thing as a "D2S/R" bulb. D2S and D2R are two different bulbs. Definitely not.
    In essence you are both right and from a technical and legal DOT etc. standpoint also right. But from a Japanese Philips marketing standpoint you are wrong. If you look closely at the photos, these bulbs are notched for both D2S and for D2R a "universal" bulb you could say. A pathetic move so they only need to produce one configuration, just like Chinese have made D2C to do the same thing. These will underperform a true D2S bulb. At lease they have some ceramic blocking on the bulb, to stop i would assume the most offensive parts of the beam for D2R applications. That ceramic coating can be fairly easily removed with a razor blade though.
    Thats such "shit" to make a bulb notched for both D2S and D2R.
    Last edited by XeRay; 10-28-2016 at 03:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XeRay View Post
    In essence you are both right and from a technical and legal DOT etc. standpoint also right. But from a Japanese Philips marketing standpoint you are wrong. If you look closely at the photos, these bulbs are notched for both D2S and for D2R a "universal" bulb you could say. A pathetic move so they only need to produce one configuration, just like Chinese have made D2C to do the same thing. These will underperform a true D2S bulb. At lease they have some ceramic blocking on the bulb, to stop i would assume the most offensive parts of the beam for D2R applications. That ceramic coating can be fairly easily removed with a razor blade though.
    Thats such "shit" to make a bulb notched for both D2S and D2R.
    Good eye. I'm surprised to see Philips making a dual purpose bulb. Maybe they are being marketed in Japan because Japan's lighting regulations are laxer than what we have here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XeRay View Post
    In essence you are both right and from a technical and legal DOT etc. standpoint also right. But from a Japanese Philips marketing standpoint you are wrong. If you look closely at the photos, these bulbs are notched for both D2S and for D2R a "universal" bulb you could say. A pathetic move so they only need to produce one configuration, just like Chinese have made D2C to do the same thing. These will underperform a true D2S bulb. At lease they have some ceramic blocking on the bulb, to stop i would assume the most offensive parts of the beam for D2R applications. That ceramic coating can be fairly easily removed with a razor blade though.
    Thats such "shit" to make a bulb notched for both D2S and D2R.
    How can a bulb be both a D2S and D2R? If you tried to put those Japanese Philips in a regular D2R headlight would they fit and function correctly?(without modification?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEOUTLANDER View Post
    How can a bulb be both a D2S and D2R? If you tried to put those Japanese Philips in a regular D2R headlight would they fit and function correctly?(without modification?)
    The answers are right there in the post you quoted. Read closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEOUTLANDER View Post
    How can a bulb be both a D2S and D2R? If you tried to put those Japanese Philips in a regular D2R headlight would they fit and function correctly?(without modification?)
    They would fit as they have notches for both D2S and D2R but would not function correctly as they do not have the necessary shield for them to function correctly in D2R headlamps. There is a partial shield so this would also alter their performance in D2S headlamps too so they may not function correctly in those in either.

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    What's the best D2R Philips or Oram?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEOUTLANDER View Post
    What's the best D2R Philips or Oram?
    Philips, Osram and GE all make equal products in the standard D2R configuration. Personally, I feel that the GE is the best of the 3, but that's mostly a subjective opinion on my part.

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