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    Default Surefire E1B MaxVision discussion

    What does everyone think about the new E1B MV? Looks like it's actually coming out now that it's in the 2017 catalog.

    It's also listed in their new lifestyles page:
    http://www.surefire.com/lifestyle-ces


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    IMHO it could use a higher low mode.

    5 lumens works for a TIR light but for this one maybe 12 lumens or so? Maxvision on 5 lumens is a bit diffuse.

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    Default Surefire E1b MaxVision discussion

    I hope this one hits the shelves. Like it the way it is. Maybe three modes but not a brighter low. The thing that intrigues me is the maxvision flood beam with a reflector. Probably want be able to hold the full 400 lumens for very long. If the price is not extreme, I will buy it. Still using and loving my first E1B from 2008.

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    I'm curious how they upped the output to 400lm vs their other 1 cells lights? Maybe they went with XPL...
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    I actually find that DBR Guardian kind of intriguing.

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    Oh oh, might have to get BOTH of these!! (In future please don't post 2 lights in the same thread, I can not afford it.)
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    Default Re: Surefire E1B MaxVision discussion

    Wondering if they're using the plastic multifaceted reflector or if they'll use an aluminum orange peel reflector like their older lights (KL4)? ..
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    MrGunsnGear at Facebook posted a pic of one at the ShotShow booth.
    It appears smooth, with no facets. Just shallow and wide as one might expect.

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    For me the E1B MV is very interesting. I also hope the light will work with LiIon cells not only LFP cells like the EB1.

    The E1B MV and the Aviators are the most interesting Surefire lights of the new 2017 products.
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    Default Re: Surefire E1B MaxVision discussion

    Looks like quite the beefy bezel.

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    I'm thinking it could be more like a MD2 head, Scout24.
    Maybe not that thick head walls but small front opening.

    If it is the opposite and it is truly beefy, then that is one nice heatsink for the relatively modest 400 lumen high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMM View Post
    I'm thinking it could be more like a MD2 head, Scout24.
    Maybe not that thick head walls but small front opening.
    Yep, it sure looks similar to a Malkoff reflector with Don's McGizmo design.

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    Yep, I'm thinking of this as sort of a new (Luxeon type flood) SF L4, with a shorter runtime but a low mode to make up for it.

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    Did anyone contact Surefire yet and get an ETA on when this light will be released or if it will.

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    ETA: Due mid to late 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Duck View Post
    ETA: Due mid to late 21st century.
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    I like it. But, I don't think I'm going to shell out $250 + for it.
    Which I what I expect SF will be asking.
    Now, please someone, tell me it will be priced more reasonably.
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    5 lumens is too low and 400 is too high for high... does an average person need a 400 lumens single-cell EDC light?
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    The DBR Guardian reminds me of something... just can't put my finger on it.
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    Default Surefire E1B MaxVision discussion

    100% agree with post above. I think SF is on a different plan. I wrote about this a couple of times but it seems SF does not care. So if one day the led will be efficient enough and do 1000 lumens from one 123 then we will have 5 lumens and 1000 lumens level ? I have no need to use for such light. Anything more than 1000 lumens is starting to cross in the spotlight territory. Not only that but it seems that anything that has 123 in it these days from SF starts at $200 and up. I still like SF but I just cant pay what they asking. If they need to outsource to keep prices competitive i guess they will have to do that. A lot of electronic things are made overseas these days and they are top notch quality. I have a Fluke top of the line voltmeter made in CN and it works perfect. Today is not 1980's anymore. Anybody can make quality things anywhere.
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    SF has lost its ways after PK left... they're making it 400 lumens "because they can".

    I wish I still have my original E1B but it was stolen along with my backpack.
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    Default Surefire E1B MaxVision discussion

    For similar battery life, 400 lumens is a vast improvement over 110. The flood beam has my interest too.

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    OR, dial it down to 300 but offer more runtime.
    Wish some manufacturers upgraded lights that way too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leon2245 View Post
    The DBR Guardian reminds me of something... just can't put my finger on it.
    Kind of looks like the Lupine Piko. I like the looks and idea of it.

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    Contacted Surefire and all they said is sometime in the second quarter of this year. So, we shall see.🤔

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    Default Re: Surefire E1B MaxVision discussion

    Expensive
    Flood beam
    Too low, low mode (5 lumens)
    What not to like?

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    Looks like only the aluminum head and the reflector will have to be newly ade for this model, so it might be around the corner.

    Same front glass as the E1B/EB1, maybe E1D driver, XPL they already have in stock as they put it in the G2X-LE, same old body+clip+clicky tailcap as older E1B but new markings.

    A shrouded tail would be nice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertMM View Post
    A shrouded tail would be nice though.

    Tango44, yes it's not going to be cheap but you can always spend your money elsewhere if it doesn't suit your tastes or budget.
    I've got a couple of Z68 tailcaps that I think will fit this new E1B model. The ability to tailstand in a small light is greatly appreciated and the shroud really helps if you are fumble fingered like me. I just hope they don't do a half a** shrouded model like the EB1 that barely tailstands. And, I hope as an E1B, the classic 'E' series accessories still fit unlike with the tailcaps on the EB1.

    I thinking that the street price of this new model will be well under $200. I bought an EB1 on Amazon for $126 a couple of years ago with a daily deal and I think I paid around $140 for another one from an authorized online dealer.

    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfLight View Post
    For me the E1B MV is very interesting. I also hope the light will work with LiIon cells not only LFP cells like the EB1.
    My latest EB1 seems to work fine with 3.7 volt RCR123A's and I agree, hope that is also the case with the new E1B MV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vox Clamatis in Deserto View Post


    My latest EB1 seems to work fine with 3.7 volt RCR123A's and I agree, hope that is also the case with the new E1B MV.
    Seems to be the trend on their single CR123 lights:
    My E1D works fine with a Fenix 16340 too.
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    Default Re: Surefire E1B MaxVision discussion

    I actually like the idea of a 5 lumen low. Plenty of light in total darkness.

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