wasted to much money on enelopes

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

i got the 5th gen aa. that have the 10 year shelf life but man o man compared to akilines in my streamlight seige the run time is aweful

ChrisGarrett · Feb 10, 2017

raggie33 said:
i got the 5th gen aa. that have the 10 year shelf life but man o man compared to akilines in my streamlight seige the run time is aweful

I have two D Siege lanterns, so they don't do AAs.

I would find it hard to believe that at least on HIGH, the alkalines will do better.

Maybe on the lowest of lows, you have a chance, but not on any load past 500mA.

Go get a quad of Duracell Ion Core 2450mAh AAs and give them a whirl.

Chris

ven · Feb 10, 2017

Can you expand a little raggie, as Chris states, alki cells tend to win out on low drain applications but anything with a little demand the loops should make it a no contest. Where did you buy the loops? presume charged up close to or around 1.47-1.5v at around 1a? What are the conditions asked in the seige?

Even if you have to charge them up fairly frequent, the chances of a seige on the scrap heap is minimised considerably without the alki leak............leaks!

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

i am running on high on alks so far the light has been running like 7 hours but on the enolops i was getting like 2.5 hours .when the red light flashes i stop test its a charge indicator light on the seige it starts on green goes to yellow then red then blinking red. the enolops was just charged a few hours ago.lol i bought 32 of the enolops i wanted to be prepared for anything

ven · Feb 10, 2017

Could it be possible the loops are putting out more light, does it appear quite a lot brighter on loops over alki cells.

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

i haven't noticed brightness sadly my light meter is broke. stupid me tryied to put batery in wrong way i got em from amazon these are the ones i bought i ordered 2 packs https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JHKSN4O/?tag=cpf0b6-20

Kurt_Woloch · Feb 10, 2017

I guess that's AA Eneloops in D shells, compared with genuine D alkalines... in this case I can imagine the alkalines winning out.

ven · Feb 10, 2017

Ah , so we are comparing AA loops to D cell alki cells? if so yes, loops will not have the run time in these conditions. D cells have a bigger tank................

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

nope its aa sized alks and aa sized enelops

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

light just went to blinking red light at 7.5 hours. on alks. if i recall on the enolopes it took like 2.25 hours

TinderBox (UK) · Feb 10, 2017

Must be an "Streamlight 44941 Siege AA Lantern, Coyote" if it takes 3x AA cells.

Are the AA NiMh cells fully charged? or is the lower voltage is making the low battery warning come on early?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OW5AK22/?tag=cpf0b6-20

John.

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

TinderBox (UK) said:
Must be an "Streamlight 44941 Siege AA Lantern, Coyote" if it takes 3x AA cells.

Are the AA NiMh cells fully charged? or is the lower voltage is making the low battery warning come on early?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OW5AK22/?tag=cpf0b6-20

John.

this is the 1 i got i think its the same as you posted its a awesume light it is very small and floats

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016R0N300/?tag=cpf0b6-20

ven · Feb 10, 2017

My guess is the alki cells are soon dropping due to sag and your probably getting quite a bit less light out although not that easy to tell by eye. The loops have a flatter discharge and will hold a higher voltage over the alki cells. So just an example plucked, the loops may be giving you 150lm or so after 10m of being on.............may continue close to that for a couple of hours. The alki cells may drop pretty quick and be putting out 60-80lm and decreasing ..................again an example.

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

ven said:
My guess is the alki cells are soon dropping due to sag and your probably getting quite a bit less light out although not that easy to tell by eye. The loops have a flatter discharge and will hold a higher voltage over the alki cells. So just an example plucked, the loops may be giving you 150lm or so after 10m of being on.............may continue close to that for a couple of hours. The alki cells may drop pretty quick and be putting out 60-80lm and decreasing ..................again an example.

i hope thats it between the batterys and chargers i bought i spent a lot. and i hate to waste money

ven · Feb 10, 2017

Its not a wate raggie, you have many many 100's of charges...............once your alki cells are done, they are done for good! Even if they take 4 re-charges to match the alki cells, they will still save money down the line.

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

ven said:
Its not a wate raggie, you have many many 100's of charges...............once your alki cells are done, they are done for good! Even if they take 4 re-charges to match the alki cells, they will still save money down the line.

true these say they can recharge 2100 times . and are at 70 perecnt capacity after 10 years of storage

iamlucky13 · Feb 10, 2017

3 x AA alkalines won't run a 200 lumen light for 7 hours at constant output. It is most likely either dimming unnoticed over that time, or is set on low. The subtle nature of the dimming will surprise you. I have a cheap headlamp that I can use for hours without noticing any change in brightness. Eventually I start to think maybe it has dimmed a bit, so I swap batteries and am surprised at how much brighter it suddenly is.

2:25 sounds a bit short for Eneloops, however. I tried a search and managed to find a runtime measurement on your lantern using Eneloops where it got about 3 hours of fairly consistent output before starting to dim significantly, ending around the 10% mark a little shy of 4 hours:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...al-Review-Streamlight-SIEGE-AA-Lantern-(3xAA)

Be aware that although Eneloops are sold "precharged," they're actually usually around 70% of full charge from the factory. That may explain your results if you didn't charge them up new.

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

iamlucky13 said:
3 x AA alkalines won't run a 200 lumen light for 7 hours at constant output. It is most likely either dimming unnoticed over that time, or is set on low. The subtle nature of the dimming will surprise you. I have a cheap headlamp that I can use for hours without noticing any change in brightness. Eventually I start to think maybe it has dimmed a bit, so I swap batteries and am surprised at how much brighter it suddenly is.

2:25 sounds a bit short for Eneloops, however. I tried a search and managed to find a runtime measurement on your lantern using Eneloops where it got about 3 hours of fairly consistent output before starting to dim significantly, ending around the 10% mark a little shy of 4 hours:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...al-Review-Streamlight-SIEGE-AA-Lantern-(3xAA)

Be aware that although Eneloops are sold "precharged," they're actually usually around 70% of full charge from the factory. That may explain your results if you didn't charge them up new.

bet thats it i just recalled my voltmeter has a light meter built in, its pretty cool also has a sound meter

marinemaster · Feb 10, 2017

Are the Eneloop made in Japan ?

raggie33 · Feb 10, 2017

yep made in japan

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