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    Just wanted to share the mods I've done so far.



    The round body A2 is my go-to outdoor light, it has a multi-mode calypsoii ring with 2x 3200x45 Yuji LEDs and 1x 5600x45 Yuji LED. With a Tad's adapter and his 140lm bulb this light is versatile enough to be the only light that I reasonably need, plus I llove the 2-way pocket clip.

    The 4 flats A2 has Koala ring with 3x 3200x45 Yuji LEDs

    The e1e has a Tad's adapter with a 5600x45 Yuji LED. Rather faint light but it has its use.

    The cheap off-the-bay clip-on reading light is a VERY useful thing. I modded two of them so that they provide a shadowless light for close-up work. Here are some details:

    The light:



    This is how it clips on my glasses:



    The guts:


    Here how it works





    Now I always carry two of these clip-ons in my bag.

    What I need to make besides these lights is a multimode light that holds a few tens of these 5600 LEDs so that total output would reach 100lm or more. Something like one of those cheap off-the bay headlamps but in a handier form factor:

    Last edited by ma tumba; 09-22-2017 at 09:46 AM.

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    Very clever idea with the clip-on lights.

    What is the multi-mode ring you mention that can hold 3 emitters? I can't seem to find anything about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
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    What is the multi-mode ring you mention that can hold 3 emitters? I can't seem to find anything about this.
    Calipsoii A2 Rings (single mode and multi mode) were made by @calipsoii but have been out of production for some time now ....

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=309782

    Koala Onion Rings (single mode only) are (currently I believe) being made by @koala ...

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...-A2-LED-rings)
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    Thanks, archimedes for providing these links, I somehow failed to save them.

    Yesterday I tried two things:

    1. swapped the LEDs in one of my unused stock SF LED rings for Yujis and eventually killed the ring. One of the channels died and the other two while survived so far show visible flicker.

    2. swapped the central LED in the Headlamp shown in post 121. While the circuit survived, strong flicker also developed every time I switched this thing on, after s few seconds being on. So these Yujis seem to draw current too high for a typical 5mm light.

    And another observation: while the 3200x45 version provides that perfect incand like tint, the 3200x60 version is noticeably different. It consistently shows a bit of rosy tint so you can tell it is a LED. I am not saying that this tint is worse than that, just something to be aware of.

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    Thanks Archimedes. It continues to fascinate me how many useful accessories, drop-ins, and other gadgets the flashlight community has produced over the years.

    Ma tumba - I've noticed the Yuji's have a lower forward voltage than a lot of other LED's, especially older LED's. If I remember right, mine (not from this group buy) are rated at 2.8V. A Nichia GS would more typically be 3.1 V and could be as high as 3.5V.

    So your finding makes sense. Devices that control current via a resistor are most likely to be at risk of damage, but I suppose swapping the resistor might resolve that.

    I could also see there being an issue with a lower voltage LED in parallel with a higher voltage LED if they share the same current limiting resistor.

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    @Ma tumba
    Do you plan a new group buy? I missed the last one. I'd be interested getting ~10 3200x45
    Still looking for Surefire G2 in Orange.
    If you have one you don't like please PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfLight View Post
    @Ma tumba
    Do you plan a new group buy? I missed the last one. I'd be interested getting ~10 3200x45
    No, I dont as they increased the minimum purchse from 100pc to 1000pc and who needs that much.
    I have some 3200x60 that I dont need, so if you want them, let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma tumba View Post
    No, I dont as they increased the minimum purchse from 100pc to 1000pc and who needs that much.
    I have some 3200x60 that I dont need, so if you want them, let me know
    If you have extra I'd take some as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teak View Post
    If you have extra I'd take some as well.
    Yes I do, how many do you need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma tumba View Post
    Yes I do, how many do you need?
    Pm sent

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    Stupid me..

    The flickering in both SF LED ring and the headlamp was caused by the residual soldering acid that I failed to swipe away carefully. I think that when it gets hotter its electrical conductance rises and this effectively short circuits the LED. After I have removed that residual acid, the headlamp with the Yuji LED works great. Somewhat overdriven but no flicker whatsoever.

    So I plan to replace the 3x 1.5V alcailnes for 3x 1.2V eneloops and see how it works.

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    A better mini mag mod.

    I found a single Yuji LED to be too dim for practical uses other than very close range examination. So here is a step forward: 5 LEDs in a 2xAA mini mag.



    Here is the rough board that I made with the pins of the central LED positioned so that they go directly to the socket. The LEDs press upon the lens so the original mag UI works the usual way. I had disposed off the reflector altogether.



    I would say that 5 LEDs are about right for day time use, especially with 2x 1.5V batteries. Two eneloops are OK, too, but the light is considerably dimmer with them.

    Will see how far the beam is useful at night.
    Last edited by ma tumba; 10-16-2017 at 07:14 AM.

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    Looks good!

    I wish I had more time to tinker like this, and more Yuji's. My latest crazy thought is maybe the driver could be scavenged from a Nitecore Tube to power a cluster of these in parallel in a 3xAAA body.

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    Do you know where these would be perfect ? .... The @sunny_nites Micro ATL (!)

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...-ATL-G3-and-G4

    Unfortunately, I haven't seen any postings for over a year
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    Default Re: Yuji high cri 5mm LEDS group buy

    How many people are still interested in the 3200K?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eraursls1984 View Post
    How many people are still interested in the 3200K?
    I'd be interested in either color temperature, but if you're thinking of trying to organize another group buy, it doesn't seem likely that we'd be able to drum up enough interest to meet the new 1000 piece minimum order quantity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    Do you know where these would be perfect ? .... The @sunny_nites Micro ATL (!)

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...-ATL-G3-and-G4

    Unfortunately, I haven't seen any postings for over a year
    These lights are very cool indeed, thank you for the link!

    I recall when I saw them for the first time I hesitated because they looked too massive for the rather low output, but yes, great LEDs would make sense there.

    What I am trying to understand now is what is the optimum number ol the LEDs in a flashlight. Five seem to be OK for close inspections but I would rather go up from this number. For a 1" head, one could fit up to 8 LEDs operating in parallel from 2xAA or 1x CR123, and this is probably just fine.

    However, I am now favoring a bigger head which would accomodate up to about 25 LEDs in parallel, plus a constant current driver like MicroPuck Boost DC LED Driver (500mA version), for a single eneloop or CR123, or a constant current buck driver (have yet to find an appropriate one) for a single RCR123 or a 18650.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma tumba View Post
    These lights are very cool indeed, thank you for the link!

    I recall when I saw them for the first time I hesitated because they looked too massive for the rather low output, but yes, great LEDs would make sense there.

    What I am trying to understand now is what is the optimum number ol the LEDs in a flashlight. Five seem to be OK for close inspections but I would rather go up from this number. For a 1" head, one could fit up to 8 LEDs operating in parallel from 2xAA or 1x CR123, and this is probably just fine.

    However, I am now favoring a bigger head which would accomodate up to about 25 LEDs in parallel, plus a constant current driver like MicroPuck Boost DC LED Driver (500mA version), for a single eneloop or CR123, or a constant current buck driver (have yet to find an appropriate one) for a single RCR123 or a 18650.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    Everything old is new again ...

    http://ledmuseum.candlepower.us/kl2.htm
    So true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorOfLight View Post
    @Ma tumba
    Do you plan a new group buy? I missed the last one. I'd be interested getting ~10 3200x45
    No, I dont as they increased the minimum purchse from 100pc to 1000pc and who needs that much.
    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    I'd be interested in either color temperature, but if you're thinking of trying to organize another group buy, it doesn't seem likely that we'd be able to drum up enough interest to meet the new 1000 piece minimum order quantity.
    Anyone wanting to make a good and powerful video light (or modify existing ones) could easily use hundreds of leds.

    1000 leds (500*3200K + 500*5600K) would produce some 3500lm - 7000lm depending on the color temperature and it doesn't sound like overkill either. It would cost more than a commercially available and rather similar product though...
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    Now I am getting closer to my goal.

    I got some ~$1 multiple 5mm UV LED flashlights from the bay: 9x, 12x, 21x. All the 9x are complete junk, some of the 12x and 21x are pretty decent, but I ended up just harvesting the "LE" from a better 12x

    https://imgur.com/yGTwKki

    which happened to fit Z44 bezel almost perfectly. So I replaced the UV LEDs with 5600K Yuji LEDs

    https://imgur.com/RJRWn3k
    https://imgur.com/kUabp9P

    Since the "LE" is much shorter than a p60 drop-in, the 1x18350 Solarforce body with the "LE" installed would perfectly house an 18500 cell. So this is my host #1, which has 12x 5600K/45 deg LEDs.

    https://imgur.com/3vQnZA9

    With a freshly charged IMP 18500 cell I measured the current ~600ma, or ~50ma per led which is about 2.5x the nominal current. So the light should be ~200lm. The beam quality is fantastic, there is no indication of a cct shift (as compared to my 3V minimag 2xAA setup) which would indicate that the LEDs are severely overdriven. When I applied 3.7V to a single LED, the LED survived but the cct dramatically shifted to the blue. So I would not hesitate to use this 12x light as is.

    However, I plan to mod the tail with a hand made qtc attenuator (as has been done by at least two CPF members: tofty and PCC). Just need to locate some of those qtc pills with reasonable shipping cost.

    Next post will present an e1 with 9x LEDs
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    The 9x UV $1 light was a complete junk. The stock "light engine" was not even based on a PCB, just a piece of plastic with 9 pairs of holes to keep the 9x UV LEDs together.

    But this gave me an idea, so this is the modified LE
    https://i.imgur.com/vQNGLaq.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/vy0Bgqx.jpg

    It happens to fit perfectly the bezel which DaFabricata made for alfa-compatible LE. It just screws into the bezel and stays there quite well. Eventually, I replaced this thick wire by a thinner one and left the ling pints to facilitate the contact.
    https://i.imgur.com/DVlfUkV.jpg

    The contact with the body is facilitated via those individual LED pins and since those pins are electrically connected with a wire, the overall contact with the body is very robust despite this very unprofessional solution.

    Here is the business end
    https://i.imgur.com/9Hg3JKg.jpg

    This light has to be fed by a 3V CR123 since a fresh RcR123A *does* severely overdrive the LEDs shifting the cct considerably to the blue. I may put a 1 or 3 Ohm resistor under the spring to drop voltage down to ~3 - 3.2V, aiming at around 50 lumens. At 3V I would guesstimate the output to be ~20lm as the light is even fainter than 3x 5600K Onion ring in my A2.

    If I like this setup in the long run I would order another, longer bezel from DaFabricata, so that there is no gap between the bezel and the body (which is now closed by the o-ring). This would also allow me to get back to that thick LED connecting wire so that the contact is provided by this wire and the bezel.
    Last edited by ma tumba; 12-07-2017 at 07:39 AM.

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    Sweet ! I love all these different approaches and mods !
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