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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!



    I DO NOT HAVE A BRAND NEW NCR18650B PROTECTED BUT I REALIZED I DO HAVE AN NCR18650B BT "UNPROTECTED" THAT WAS NEVER USED AND I BOUGHT IT ON 1.30.2016.BASICALLY 1 YEAR OLD STORED @ 3.60V.

    IT WILL BE TESTED IN SLOT #3. THE SAME SLOT AS MY 4 YEAR OLD NCR18650B[PROTECTED] IN MY ORIGINAL TEST WHICH DISPLAYS 3311mAh!

    HKJ GOT:3197mAh FROM THE "UNPROTECTED" CELL @ 1AMP AND 3162mAh FROM THE PROTECTED NCR18650B.NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE.

    THIS TEST CERTAINLY WON'T BE PERFECT AND IS ALL IN FUN.




    THIS READING IS MORE ON PAR THAN MY FIRST TEST W/ THE 4 YEAR OLD NCR!

    THE XTAR SEEMS ON PAR TO BE ~10% HIGH.

    THAT CONCLUDES MY TESTS FOR A WHILE!
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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    @ Capolini

    Why the constant shouting with the all-caps and bold?

    I enjoy your posts, but shouting changes the tone of a thread [and gets annoying] so I tend to skip over the posts where you shout...


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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by seery View Post
    @ Capolini

    Why the constant shouting with the all-caps and bold?

    I enjoy your posts, but shouting changes the tone of a thread [and gets annoying] so I tend to skip over the posts where you shout...

    Shouting??? I did not know letters could speak!!

    That is fine. I like it because it is easier for me to read

    In addition your only contribution[I use that term loosely] has been commenting about this and why this site is not slow and that it may be my computer!

    No comments about the subject matter.

    Darn it , I forget to get colorful and put this in bold! I will save it for my next test!
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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    Agreed, please don't type in ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME Cap. Everyone will appreciate it. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    Agreed, please don't type in ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME Cap. Everyone will appreciate it. Thank you.
    OK,,,,,,I don't unless I am doing testing or reviewing.

    The next tonight or tomorrow will have Capital letters.
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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    There's really no need to ever type an entire post in all caps. If you have good content people will read it. All caps will likely deter more readers than it draws so you do yourself a disservice IMO.

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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    @seery,

    Your the first one to complain and moments later npb suggested that I DO NOT use CAPS ALL the time.

    Isn't it Ironic that after 3.5 years on here and making similar posts along the way, then ALL of the sudden You complain and a mod comes on here and suggests that I DO NOT use CAPS ALL of the time?!

    It should be really simple. We have rights to read and participate in a thread or not. If it bothers you, go elsewhere.No one else has complained.

    You must have some pull. Maybe your in line to be a mod when the next one retires.
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    Incorrect. I have no relationship with seery whatsoever.

    I have never liked it when people do it, and on nearly every forum people will say the same thing: "Stop shouting at us."

    Since it was brought up, and you hassled seery about it, I commented on it. I think you will find most people agree. Write however you want; but don't take offense if people don't want to read it.

    nbp out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    Incorrect. I have no relationship with seery whatsoever.

    I have never liked it when people do it, and on nearly every forum people will say the same thing: "Stop shouting at us."

    Since it was brought up, and you hassled seery about it, I commented on it. I think you will find most people agree. Write however you want; but don't take offense if people don't want to read it.

    nbp out.

    Ok,,,,,,,,,compromise and "Mod"eration is the best!

    I will still be the same Bold and Colorful Capolini!



    I have to get back to my historical and ground breaking research.
    Last edited by Capolini; 03-06-2017 at 11:59 AM.
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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    To be fair, I do enjoy the content of your posts and your sense of humor though.

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    SLOT COMPARISON ANALYSIS-DISCHARGE/CAPACITY RESULTS
    Device: Opus BT-C3100 2.2

    Battery:LGHG2 18650 3000mAh

    Purchased:January 5,2016

    Discharged @ 1amp

    Cycles:63


    Slot #1-2952mAh-2h58m
    Slot #2-3008mAh-3h2m
    Slot #3-2923mAh-2h57m
    Slot #4-2998mAh-3h1m

    Largest margin between slots: 85mAh-slots #2 and #3.
    Four slot average:2970mAh
    Average test time:3h0m












    I hope someone got something out of this. I know I enjoyed this simple test!



    Last edited by Capolini; 03-06-2017 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Correction
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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    To be fair, I do enjoy the content of your posts and your sense of humor though.
    +1 capo does have great input and sense of humor. nbp you do a great fair job also. Love your input in the adventure posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offgridled View Post
    +1 capo does have great input and sense of humor. nbp you do a great fair job also. Love your input in the adventure posts.
    Thanks,more importantly what do you think about the thread,,,,,,,it is time to get back on topic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capolini View Post
    Thanks,more importantly what do you think about the thread,,,,,,,it is time to get back on topic!
    NOOOOOOOOOOOO...

    I'm giving my Opus a workout, since I cracked open another Sony VAIO pack Saturday night. All eight Sony 18650s are dated June 2002, as per the Battery Bros' tool. All were either 3.75v, or 3.76v and I managed not to shock myself opening this pack up!

    Their voltages sag quickly at around the 3.30v mark under a 1A discharge, but there's some life left in them at 1A and 500mA drains, so I'll keep them.

    Would never know without an analyzing charger like the Opus.

    Chris
    Convoy: S2, S2+, M1, M2, Fenix: P1D, PD32, HL30, ET: D25C Ti, SF: 6P, ZL: SC-600, Klarus: P2A, Jetbeam: BA-20, Icon: Rogue 1, L3: L10, Xeno: E03, ShiningBeam: I-Mini, Olight: i3s, SWM: D40A, M11R, V11R, Maglite: 6Ds, MMs, Solitaires, LaCrosse BC-700, Maha C-9000, XTAR VP2, MP1S, XP1, MC1+, WP2 II, NiteCore i4, v2.

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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    ^^^^^

    Cool! Sounds like fun. I like doing these simple tests and I believe what I heard that the Opus is ~ 5 to 10 ~ off. Although I have tested a few batteries that were close to specs.

    Tomorrow I will finish my NCR Slot comparison!

    Did you ever test One battery in ALL Four slots to compare consistencies? 85mAh between lowest and highest! It was a Good idea by Gauss163!!




    Slot #1-2952mAh-2h58m
    Slot #2-3008mAh-3h2m
    Slot #3-2923mAh-2h57m
    Slot #4-2998mAh-3h1m

    Largest margin between slots: 85mAh-slots #2 and #3.
    Four slot average:2970mAh
    Average test time:3h0m
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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    I've had an opus for quite a while now and absolutely love it . I've been looking at the fenix now for backing up my charge.


    pic upload

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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    ^^^

    Do you know how to read the code on your NCR'S?

    6901= 6=2016,9=September,01= the day.end product,,,,,9.1.2016

    I would not get the Fenix ARE-C2+!! Just my opinion which I explained in another thread.

    Unfortunately they[Fenix Outfitters] only have a few, [if that] original ARE-C2 left. They sent me[discounted] one of the last ones when I traded it in for the new + version!

    Now I have 3 of them. It charges faster than any charger I have and always gives a FULL charge! It charged a 26650 faster than my efest LUC v4 did on the 2a setting!Most if not all of the newer chargers voltage meters are 0.03 to 0.05v off.

    My opus...all 4 channels read 4.20 and my DMM measure them @ 4.15v.A few newer batteries came out @ 4.16v when the meter read 4.21v.

    It is my pet peeve and irritates me when they come out lower,,,because they are still going to settle several hundredths of a volt after that!
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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    That makes perfect sense. But I'm the same way

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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    With my 3 x Lii-500"s cells checked the second they come off the charger show 4.21 then settle to 4.20v
    My Xtar S2 Rocket also shows cells immediately after charge at 4.21 then settling to 4.20v, this charger can charge at 2A unlike the Lii-500 which can charge all 4 bays at 1A.
    My Lii-100"s (6 of them) & Lii-202"s (2 of) charge the same as above.
    That is all with good new"ish cells, old laptop pulls tend to settle to 4.17v-4.18v on the above chargers, obviously depending on how healthy the cell is.
    All my other chargers, an Opus 3100, 2 x D4"s, 2 x I4"s, 2 x C4"s all show "good" cells at 4.15v to 4.17 immediately off the charger then the cells settle at between 4.14v & 4.16v.
    I like my cells "fully" charged so use my Liitokala"s & Rocket exclusively nowadays & the other chargers are resigned to a drawer.
    Last edited by bella-headlight; 03-07-2017 at 03:09 AM.

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    SLOT COMPARISON ANALYSIS

    Device:Opus BT-C3100 2.2

    Battery:NCR18650B BT Unprotected 3400mAh

    Purchased: January 30th,2016

    Discharge rate:1Amp

    Cycles: 7

    Just so there is no confusion! The same battery was tested in all Four slots to see what the consistency was from slot to slot.

    Slot #1-3446mAh-3h28m
    Slot #2-3314mAh-3h21m
    Slot #3-3399mah-3h25m
    Slot #4-3483mAh-3h30m

    Largest Differential-169mAh-[slots 2 and 4]
    Four slot median-3385mAh
    Average test duration-3h26m

    **** If my math is right that is a 4.9% differential in capacity between the lowest[3314mAh] reading in slot #2 and the highest[3483mAh] reading in slot #4, which is 169mAh!

    Slot #1



    SLOT #2


    Slot#3

    ​Slot#4


    I noticed that the slot readings were NOT consistent from battery to battery. In other words, slot #2 read the highest for the LGHG2 test and slot #4 read the highest with the NCR test. The lowest slot readings for each test also did not correlate.
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    I am having fun! I hope the millions following this thread are also enjoying themselves!

    SLOT COMPARISON ANALYSIS

    Device:Opus BT-C3100 2.2

    Battery:Soshine 18650 3400mAh protected

    Purchased: 8.27.2014

    Born on date:11.15.2013

    Torch used in:TK75vn V4

    Discharge rate:1Amp

    Cycles: 230


    Slot #1-3146mAh-3h9m
    Slot #2-3245mAh-3h9m
    Slot #3-3237mAh-3h8m
    Slot #4-3278mAh-3h12m

    Largest Differential-132mAh-[slots 1 and 4]
    Four slot median-3226mAh
    Average test duration-3h9m

    Close up of born on date:I wish ALL batteries had a born on date and it was required like our food products! This is the best one because you do not have to decode it!








    Last edited by Capolini; 03-08-2017 at 09:05 AM. Reason: Correction!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capolini View Post


    I am having fun! I hope the millions following this thread are also enjoying themselves!


    We do !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpa View Post
    We do !!!!








    Thanks cpa,,,,,,,you and my brother have something in common! He own a business in North Jersey.
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    SLOT COMPARISON ANALYSIS-DISCHARGE/CAPACITY RESULTS
    Device: Opus BT-C3100 2.2

    Batteries:NCR18650B 3400mAh BT Unprotected- BOD:September 27,2014

    Purchased:January 30,2015, First used on January 12,2016.

    Used in:K40vn

    Discharged @ 1amp

    Cycles:85


    Slot #1-3277mAh-3h12m
    Slot #2-3351mAh-3h10m
    Slot #3-3293mAh-3h17m


    HKJ tested brand new ones @1AMP w/ a capacity of 3197mAh

    Largest margin between slots:74mAh[slots 1 and 2]
    Four slot average:3307mAh
    Average test time:3h14m



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    SLOT COMPARISON ANALYSIS-DISCHARGE/CAPACITY RESULTS

    Device: Opus BT-C3100 2.2

    Battery:Samsung INR18650 30Q-3000mAh

    Purchased:November 27th,2016

    Discharged @ 1amp

    Cycles:3


    Slot #1-3037mAh-3h4m
    Slot #2-3104mAh-3h8m
    Slot #3-3087mAh-3h7m
    Slot #4-3137mAh-3h10m

    HKJ GOT 2884mAh @ 1amp

    MY Four[4] slot average is 3091mAh which is 6.7% HIGHER than HKJ'S reading of 2884mAh.


    Largest margin between slots: 100mAh-slots #1 and #4.
    Four slot average:3091mAh
    Average Test time:3h7m

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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    You might be interested to learn that another Opus BT-C3100 user reports that his unit also often erroneously reports 10% higher capacity than HKJ and others.

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    Hello!!!...

    I want to participate in this thread...
    Here is my first test with my brand new MC3000.
    3 test batteries, 18650 2200mAh.
    On the Opus:


    On the MC3000 (you must see on the capacity 1, capacity 2 and capacity 3 fields)



    On the Opus: Charge Test, 500mAh
    On the MC3000: Cycle C>D>C, 4.2V to 2.8V, 500mAh

    Very similar results, doesn't it??

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    My Final thoughts b/w the Fenix ARE-C2 and the Opus. I know I would be in the minority in my opinion,,,but I am ok w/ that!

    If I could ONLY choose ONE I would pick the Fenix ARE-C2. A FULL charge and a faster charge. That is what I look for. The Opus is fun for testing but after that I won't be using it nearly as much as my Fenix ARE-C2. As mentioned in this thread[my 4+ year old Orbtronics/480+ cycles] many of my batteries have numerous cycles and continued longevity and they are being charged at either .5A or 1.0 Accordingly and in a timely fashion!

    What needs to be kept in mind[at least my mind] is that when they come off the charger at 4.15V[Opus], the resting voltages, depending on the age/type of battery are anywhere b/w 4.11V and 4.14V. That does not do it for me!!!
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    Default Re: FENIX AND OPUS:UNIFICATION, DEDICATION AND EDIFICATION!!!

    @cpa Very interesting. Your Opus is only about 0.6% (13.7/2147) different from your MC3000. What cells were they, and what firmware version is your Opus?

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    Opus is 2.2, and the batteries are three red ones from a HP portable printer. I guess are Sanyo, but they are unbranded.
    I'll post a pic this night.

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