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    Default Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    John Goodenough, co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery and and emeritus professor at the Cockrell School of Engineering at the University of Texas, has along with three other scientists patented a new battery technology. We've all heard these stories before, but attaching the name Goodenough to a technology carries some weight.
    This link is worth visiting solely for the picture of the man's wonderful smile.
    https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/g...ery-technology

    Initial indications are quite good.
    1. Lithium or sodium-doped glass electrolyte offers a new medium for novel battery chemistry and physics. 'The battery’s glass electrolyte endows it with a higher so-called dielectric constant than the volatile organic liquid electrolyte in a lithium-ion battery.'
    2. No risk of fire from organic solvents. No dendrites. (Is it a true solid state battery?)
    3. Three times the energy density of current lithium-ion tech. (But does it have a discharge curve more like a super capacitor?)
    4. Performs well in both extremely cold and hot weather.
    0. Contains zero hemp.

    5. Cathode is not yet proven. 'Goodenough says the team’s anode and electrolyte are more or less ready for prime time. But they’re still figuring out if and how they can make a cathode that will bring the promise of their technology to the commercial marketplace. “The next step is to verify that the cathode problem is solved,” Goodenough says. “And when we do, [that] we can scale up to large scale cells.'


    The patent filing: Goodenough says more are forthcoming.
    http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2016/0368777.html
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    Link does not work

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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by mk2rocco View Post
    Link does not work
    Both work for me lol.

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    Very interesting,,,I hope it comes to fruition.
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    I wonder if he'll finally look at this battery tech as goodenough or if he'll keep inventing...

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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdm82 View Post
    I wonder if he'll finally look at this battery tech as goodenough or if he'll keep inventing...

    ,haaa haaa haaa!


    How about Larry,,is he "Goodenough"?! LARRY GOODENOUGH!!

    You would have to be at least 45 years old and a Philadelphia Flyers fan to remember him!!

    ,,,,,,,,,,,Is LARRY GOODENOUGH? John may be Goodenough,,,,,Time for bed! I am Old and it is cold for once,CAPO is happy!
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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    Was hoping to see Mr.Happy or SilverFox commenting about this. Some of the articles indicate that there has yet to be licensing for development. It is claimed that they have produced a working "jelly roll" battery in the lab. Goodenough is a collaborator, and UT is apparently the main research facility today, but original work was done by a Dr. Maria Helena Braga in Portugal.

    We should expect to be hearing a lot about this - the initial reports seem significant. If a leap in energy storage as big as the Li Ion is forthcoming, it will affect our lives in more ways than bright flashlights. It is something like this that would turn solar into a real change for human society.

    here are some other links:


    http://fortune.com/2017/03/05/lithiu...ry-goodenough/


    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...tible-battery/


    http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/Artic...H#!divAbstract


    http://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/...the-end-of-oil


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelly_roll_(battery)

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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    glass passivated anode is long time used in SLA batteries, no surprise here.

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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by JCup View Post
    It is something like this that would turn solar into a real change for human society.
    If someone invents a new kind of clip lead, there's always someone who says "This will make cheap solar power available to the entire world!!!"

    It's better/cheaper/more reliable SOLAR CELLS that will make solar power viable, not batteries/inverters/molten salt/sand/clip leads!
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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by n3eg View Post
    It's better/cheaper/more reliable SOLAR CELLS that will make solar power viable, not batteries/inverters/molten salt/sand/clip leads!
    Batteries is also rather important for solar cells, the sun is not always shining (Same goes for wind power).
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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    A sodium/glass cell has a lot going for it. If it has decent energy density along with decent cycle life, it has the possibility of revolutionizing the battery industry.

    It is certainly much safer than our current Li-Ion chemistry.

    It will be interesting to see how the testing pans out on these cells as they become available. I wonder if Tesla will change from Li-Ion to Sodium/Glass in their cars...

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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    Tom, how much similarity is there to the AGM lead-acid batteries that are widely deployed today? When we refer to glass, is the chemistry actually dispersed in a mat, or somehow changed to a glassy state?

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    Default Re: Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

    Hello JCup,

    With AGM batteries the electrolyte is soaked up into a glass mat. Using jelly roll construction you end up with more area which results in higher capacity and performance compared to similar sized flooded lead acid batteries. A secondary advantage is if your application is abusive (like military use) a damaged case doesn't result in a spill of acid.

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