Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

NOBEL PRIZE WINNER Goodenough still inventing at age 94. Glass battery.

John Goodenough, co-inventor of the lithium-ion battery and and emeritus professor at the Cockrell School of Engineering at the University of Texas, has along with three other scientists patented a new battery technology. We've all heard these stories before, but attaching the name Goodenough to a technology carries some weight.
This link is worth visiting solely for the picture of the man's wonderful smile.https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

Initial indications are quite good.
1. Lithium or sodium-doped glass electrolyte offers a new medium for novel battery chemistry and physics. 'The battery's glass electrolyte endows it with a higher so-called dielectric constant than the volatile organic liquid electrolyte in a lithium-ion battery.'
2. No risk of fire from organic solvents. No dendrites. (Is it a true solid state battery?)
3. Three times the energy density of current lithium-ion tech. (But does it have a discharge curve more like a super capacitor?)
4. Performs well in both extremely cold and hot weather.
0. Contains zero hemp.

5. Cathode is not yet proven. 'Goodenough says the team's anode and electrolyte are more or less ready for prime time. But they're still figuring out if and how they can make a cathode that will bring the promise of their technology to the commercial marketplace. "The next step is to verify that the cathode problem is solved," Goodenough says. "And when we do, [that] we can scale up to large scale cells.'

The patent filing: Goodenough says more are forthcoming.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2016/0368777.html

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Very interesting,,,I hope it comes to fruition.

I wonder if he'll finally look at this battery tech as goodenough or if he'll keep inventing...

Bdm82 said:

I wonder if he'll finally look at this battery tech as goodenough or if he'll keep inventing...

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,haaa haaa haaa!


How about Larry,,is he "Goodenough"?! LARRY GOODENOUGH!!

You would have to be at least 45 years old and a Philadelphia Flyers fan to remember him!!

,,,,,,,,,,,Is LARRY GOODENOUGH? John may be Goodenough,,,,,Time for bed! I am Old and it is cold for once,CAPO is happy!

Was hoping to see Mr.Happy or SilverFox commenting about this. Some of the articles indicate that there has yet to be licensing for development. It is claimed that they have produced a working "jelly roll" battery in the lab. Goodenough is a collaborator, and UT is apparently the main research facility today, but original work was done by a Dr. Maria Helena Braga in Portugal.

We should expect to be hearing a lot about this - the initial reports seem significant. If a leap in energy storage as big as the Li Ion is forthcoming, it will affect our lives in more ways than bright flashlights. It is something like this that would turn solar into a real change for human society.

here are some other links:


http://fortune.com/2017/03/05/lithium-ion-battery-goodenough/


https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...e-a-new-fast-charging-noncombustible-battery/


http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2017/EE/C6EE02888H#!divAbstract


http://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise...s-new-glass-battery-accelerate-the-end-of-oil


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelly_roll_(battery)

glass passivated anode is long time used in SLA batteries, no surprise here.

JCup said:

It is something like this that would turn solar into a real change for human society.

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If someone invents a new kind of clip lead, there's always someone who says "This will make cheap solar power available to the entire world!!!"

It's better/cheaper/more reliable SOLAR CELLS that will make solar power viable, not batteries/inverters/molten salt/sand/clip leads!

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It's better/cheaper/more reliable SOLAR CELLS that will make solar power viable, not batteries/inverters/molten salt/sand/clip leads!

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Batteries is also rather important for solar cells, the sun is not always shining (Same goes for wind power).

A sodium/glass cell has a lot going for it. If it has decent energy density along with decent cycle life, it has the possibility of revolutionizing the battery industry.

It is certainly much safer than our current Li-Ion chemistry.

It will be interesting to see how the testing pans out on these cells as they become available. I wonder if Tesla will change from Li-Ion to Sodium/Glass in their cars...

Tom

Tom, how much similarity is there to the AGM lead-acid batteries that are widely deployed today? When we refer to glass, is the chemistry actually dispersed in a mat, or somehow changed to a glassy state?

Hello JCup,

With AGM batteries the electrolyte is soaked up into a glass mat. Using jelly roll construction you end up with more area which results in higher capacity and performance compared to similar sized flooded lead acid batteries. A secondary advantage is if your application is abusive (like military use) a damaged case doesn't result in a spill of acid.

Tom

Bumping a post over two years old, there have been some very interesting developments.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the credit for developing this glass electrolyte belongs to Maria Helena Braga, and that Professor Johnny B. Goodenough is responsible mostly for advances in plating of the electrodes.

There was a small amount of press coverage when Braga and colleagues released research last year where they detailed an extraordinary claim that the glass electrolyte's capacity actually increases with up to 300 charge/discharge cycles.
Though it may seem to violate the first law of thermodynamics, a year later no one has refuted this claim.

More recently a second and a third paper have been released. Links to these papers can be found in this article. https://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/energy/environment/a-glass-battery-that-keeps-getting-better

They claim:
Non-Flammable glass powder ferro-elecrolyte
Two to possibly three times the energy density of today's lithium cells.
Increasing capacity up to about 300 charge/discharge cycles.
At least 23,000 cycle lifetime.
Performance increases with heat, up to a point.
No need for an "extensive" battery management system. (perhaps individual cells can be just about any size?)
A high current of 5V, and a low cutoff of 2.5V
Assymetric plating of anode and cathode.
They've been getting good results with both lithium and sodium metals.
No cobalt.

Reading between the lines...
It looks like the major patents have been granted, and licensing deals are being worked on, and I think at least one deal is already done. Of course they won't say with who.

"As for the future of the Goodenough/Braga battery, she projects it will first be used in a commercial product in three years."

Very interesting indeed. This is starting too look like a real thing.

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Non-Flammable glass powder ferro-elecrolyte
Two to possibly three times the energy density of today's lithium cells.
Increasing capacity up to about 300 charge/discharge cycles.
At least 23,000 cycle lifetime.

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This sure looks great and it's about time we got a noticeable upgrade in battery technology.

Goodenough Wins Nobel Prize.

Johnnie B. Goodenough has won a Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for his fundamental research leading to development of the lithium-ion battery.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/2019/goodenough/facts/
At 97, it appears that he is the eldest recipient of a Nobel Prize, ever.

Some highlights of his 75 year career:

During WWII he served as a meteorologist in the United States Air Force.

Went on to receive an undergraduate degree in mathematics from Yale and later a PhD in Physics from University of Chicago in 1952.

The next part of Goodenough's career (24 years!) was spent at Massachusetts Institute of Technology' Lincoln Laboratory, where he specialized in solid state chemistry and concentrated on the basic and fundamental research leading to the development of random-access memory (RAM).
https://news.mit.edu/2019/longtime-...hn-goodenough-wins-nobel-prize-chemistry-1009

In 1976 Goodenough took a position at the University of Oxford as a professor and headed up the Inorganic Chemistry Laboratory.
http://www.alumni.ox.ac.uk/quad/article/prof-john-goodenough-wins-2019-nobel-prize-chemistry
In 1980, Goodenough published a paper in the Materials Research Bulletin (Vol. 15, pp 783-789), on his original work in developing lithium cobalt oxide cathodes that led to modern lithium-ion batteries. He acknowledges both the Air Force office of Scientific Research and the European Energy Commission for supporting his work.

In the year 1986 Goodenough moved to the University of Texas at Austin, where he continues his research today.