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    Cool. New clip, slightly changed body. Too bad it's still thick.

    I sold off my old Zebralights. So this will go well.

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    I went to go grab one, then remembered that I have the SC63W that's only slightly bigger with a lot more performance.

    Body design is reminiscent of the old sc600 models
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    GOOD TINT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    Thanks! Saved the timing looking up comparison photos. My first thought when seeing the original post was it looks better than the old version. On closer inspection, it looks like the outer mold line changes are limited to right around the button, but with very good effect.

    I can't help but notice that while ANSI output is listed, run times are so far not. The output is a big jump over the SC5Fc, as is the CRI. If the new light manages the same runtimes, I'm blown away. Even if the runtimes are shorter but the overall efficiency still roughly the same, it still looks like a worthy improvement.

    Eg:
    SC5Fc H2 mode - 228 lumens, 0.9 hours, 82-85 CRI
    SC5c mkII H2 mode - 352 lumens, ?? hours, 93-95 CRI

    I know I'm comparing a floody to an orange beam head, but comparing the SC5 to the SC5Fw, the difference is only about 5%.
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    Nice! I would like that same LED with an 18650 driving it. As it stands, you're getting the same thickness, but only saving about a half-inch of length to run with a far less beefy Eneloop as opposed to a high-drain 18650.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedraven View Post
    Nice! I would like that same LED with an 18650 driving it. As it stands, you're getting the same thickness, but only saving about a half-inch of length to run with a far less beefy Eneloop as opposed to a high-drain 18650.
    One of these days...I'm counting on it!
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    I look forward to seeing the run times for this light.

    Will they make a head lamp version? I want a right-angle light with these beam qualities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedraven View Post
    Nice! I would like that same LED with an 18650 driving it.
    that will probably happen, but, it will be 60% heavier than SC5mk2 (both with batteries)

    fwiw, ONE 18650 cell weighs as much as TWO AA cells,
    and the 18650 SC600 series (empty) is more than 40% heavier than an SC5mk2

    One SC600 w One battery is as heavy as One SC52 w THREE batteries :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_slider View Post
    that will probably happen, but, the carry weight w battery, will be as heavy as TWO SC52 w battery

    fwiw, ONE 18650 cell weighs as much as TWO AA cells

    and One Zebra w 18650 weighs as much as One SC 52 w 14500 or AA eneloop, PLUS two more spare batteries

    Not even close Jon. And, we are talking about the SC5 here not the SC52.

    The SC5 weighs 49 grams.

    The SC63 weights 38 grams.

    A 3500mAh 18650 weighs just over 47 grams.

    An Eneloop Pro weighs 30 grams.

    SC5 + Eneloop Pro = 79 grams.

    SC63 + 3500mAh 18650 = 85 grams.

    6 grams extra weight and 12.2mm in extra length is a small price to pay for roughly 4 times the capacity and likely 3 times the lumens imo. The SC63 is thinner then the SC5 too which is nice. I too look forward to a 18650 version of this light. Even if it is heavier then the SC63, it is nice to have the extra output and runtimes imo.

    Unfortunately, ZL has said that no "c" 18650 version will be released anytime soon.
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    Oh snap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachead View Post
    A 3500mAh 18650 weighs just over 47 grams.

    An Eneloop Pro weighs 30 grams.
    thanks for the battery weights, the 18650 is 56% heavier than the AA Eneloop pro

    lets compare models with similar 90+ CRI
    the SC600fd 3Plus weighs 78 grams, and offers the 90+ CRI of the SC5mk2 that weighs 49 grams (albeit w a different LED)
    the 18650 light is 59% heavier, empty

    SC600fd 3Plus w 18650 = 125 grams
    SC5mk2 w Eneloop Pro = 79 grams

    the 18650 90+ cri light is 58% heavier than the AA Eneloop light w 90+cri

    the SC600fd 3Plus with One battery, weighs 14% more than the SC5mk2 w TWO Eneloop pro

    did I get the math right?:-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_slider View Post
    thanks for the battery weights

    lets start over, and compare models with similar 90+ CRI
    the SC600 series weighs 78 grams, and offers the high CRI of the SC5mk2 (albeit w a different LED)

    SC600 w 18650 = 125 grams
    SC5mk2 w Eneloop Pro = 79 grams

    the 18650 90+ cri light is 58% heavier than the AA Eneloop light w 90+cri
    Twistedraven was talking about a new light made with this emitter though, not the Plus. Since the Plus just came out, it is far more likely that they will update the SC6X series with this emitter.

    Your math is wrong too by the way. The Plus weighs about 111 grams with 3500mAh 18650(going by the specs) or 40.5% more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachead View Post
    it is far more likely that they will update the SC6X series with this emitter.
    Im using actual facts for what exists today

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    Also remember, not only do the 18650 lights have three times the output, they also have significantly more runtime. When you consider you might have to carry as much as 3 extra Eneloops to equal the runtime of one 18650 the added weight becomes a non-issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_slider View Post
    Im using actual facts for what exists today
    That is not what we are talking about though. You replied to his post about a new light using this emitter. This emitter will fit just fine in both the SC63 or 600 series. The SC63 weighs 38 grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightObsession View Post
    I look forward to seeing the run times for this light.

    Will they make a head lamp version? I want a right-angle light with these beam qualities.
    Yes, they are releasing 2 versions actually(H53c and H53Fc) with another version down the road possibly(H503c). You can check for upcoming lights on their product comparison page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachead View Post
    Yes, they are releasing 2 versions actually(H53c and H53Fc) with another version down the road possibly(H503c). You can check for upcoming lights on their product comparison page.
    Sweet - I look forward to getting one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightObsession View Post
    Sweet - I look forward to getting one of those.
    Me too. I am hoping for a H503c version though as I want a new light weight mule headlamp for reading. My H600Fc & d already cover most other uses.

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    It's too bad that the bezel diameter has increased to 1.2" from 1" or less.

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    A CRI of 93-95, and it *still* puts out 475 lumens on an AA battery? That's...amazing.

    This probably is not the model that I'm going to get--I'm more partial to the H52/SC52 series than to the SC5 series--but once they put this emitter into some other models, I will be buying it.

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    I was just looking at the Google Docs comparison page, and one thing puzzles me.

    They list the soon-to-be-released H53c and H53Fc. But then they say that the H53Fc is "spill and spot", where the H53c is "floody".

    Those have got to be backwards, right? They just swapped the beam descriptions?

    I'm very excited about this. A little bit sad that the new H52 replacement will not accept 14500s anymore. But if they are using the same circuit as the SC5c, so that it will put out 450+ lumens, then I will overlook my disappointment. (I hope they will not bulk up the weight of the H53c--that would be a big mistake.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lampeDépêche View Post
    I was just looking at the Google Docs comparison page, and one thing puzzles me.

    They list the soon-to-be-released H53c and H53Fc. But then they say that the H53Fc is "spill and spot", where the H53c is "floody".

    Those have got to be backwards, right? They just swapped the beam descriptions?

    I'm very excited about this. A little bit sad that the new H52 replacement will not accept 14500s anymore. But if they are using the same circuit as the SC5c, so that it will put out 450+ lumens, then I will overlook my disappointment. (I hope they will not bulk up the weight of the H53c--that would be a big mistake.)

    Yeah, they have it backwards. The Fc is the floody model.

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    And... the Google Doc has been corrected!

    Huh--almost makes you wonder if someone at ZL might have seen this thread....

    If so--Hello, Zebralight! I love your lights! Take care of yourselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightObsession View Post
    It's too bad that the bezel diameter has increased to 1.2" from 1" or less.
    Still 1" from what I can see. One the page and spreadsheet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    Still 1" from what I can see. One the page and spreadsheet.
    Earlier, the comparison chart was showing 1.2", the same as the 18650 lights.

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    Very interesting... I like the new clip too (never cared for the original one)... Will have to wait for reports and beamshots once these start getting shipped and received by the end-users...

    Hey what do you all feel would be a reasonable asking price for re-selling a ZL SC5w that's in excellent condition? $40?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon_slider View Post
    thanks for the battery weights, the 18650 is 56% heavier than the AA Eneloop pro

    lets compare models with similar 90+ CRI
    the SC600fd 3Plus weighs 78 grams, and offers the 90+ CRI of the SC5mk2 that weighs 49 grams (albeit w a different LED)
    the 18650 light is 59% heavier, empty

    SC600fd 3Plus w 18650 = 125 grams
    SC5mk2 w Eneloop Pro = 79 grams

    the 18650 90+ cri light is 58% heavier than the AA Eneloop light w 90+cri

    the SC600fd 3Plus with One battery, weighs 14% more than the SC5mk2 w TWO Eneloop pro

    did I get the math right?:-)
    According to ZL's product page, the Mk III Plus weights 64 grams. so -14 grams gives you 125-14=111 grams, roughly 40% heavier than the AA high CRI combo.

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