I'm only thinking about the weight. Patina (which is green, not black) would thrill me and any scratches in the copper wouldn't worry me at all. The extra price and any non-inclusion of battery or CR132s are irrelevant. Actually, I like a bit of weight, it gives me the feeling that I have something in my hand. I'd carry it often in my pants pocket and just hope that it isn't too heavy or bounceable there. Got any feelings and/or experience with either-- or even better -- with both?