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    After many years of storage, I decided to pull it out of the box and shine it around the house. What a lovely sight. The last couple years LEDs really took off and 1000 lumen EDCs are becoming a norm as it seems. Looking back 10 years ago, 65 lumens dominated the playing field on middle end lights. The "P60" D26 lamp kicked off a revolution that at the time no one was fully aware of. No one knew short of Malkoff even that modular drop-ins would soon become so popular.

    This little two flat E1e was sealed in the box that it showed up, put on sale with no takers, forgotten, found, lost, found again. Tonight I look it out to play once and for all, the Z52 was hard as a rock. Put a Z57 on it and went to town. The little bulb put out 15 lumens, fifteen full spectrum hot and excited lumens. My EDC for the last year has been a EagTac P200LC2 XP-L HI Neutral, a Fenix E05, and a Solarforce L2P w/ Sportac triple XP-G2 Neutral. I was used to lighting up the night with a splatter of lumens. Tonight something in the E1e made me pause and introduced a stutter into my voice. It reminded me of how far we have came, and how pleasant incandescents look when lit. This house has no tungsten lamps anymore, all CFL or LED. I found I had missed this glow, feeling the heat that came with it. I find that my eyes prefer it over any neutral LED available.

    I was in love with incandescents once again. looking around the house with 15 lumens I began to find other incandescent lights I had forgotten. It is as if they have been waiting for me, a little child guided me by the hand to them and I was reunited with my old friends. With each of them shared a memory that came alive the minute I loaded batteries in and clicked them on. Lumens no longer mattered, at least not LED lumens. Not now

    Tomorrow is a new day. My EDC? Surefire A2-HA-RD, E1e, Solarforce L2+Extension 2x18650 w/ P90 lamp.

    Just had to share that, I don't know why.

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    That nostalgic glow! I have a hard time upgrading my Surfire E2E from that warm beam. For the meantime I keep a 16650 in it and enjoy those warm guilt free lumens.

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    Glad you shared. Good read. For a brief time, maybe a year or so I abandoned all of my Wire lights. The New and amazing LED fad had gripped me tightly. I even thought that angry blue led was a dream come true. Funny how time changes things. Now, I still keep a E2E with a Lumens Factory bulb on the night stand. I still have a bone stock 3D Maglite on the kitchen counter. The Mag is mostly if a neighbor needs a light. lol
    It is good to keep them around as reference too. Put your "warm" leds up against one. Huge difference to say the least.
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    Unless you live in the country (in the US) these days, everything is so lit up at night the LED lights just make sense.

    But sometimes using an old incan is like working outdoors in the heat all day, staying hydrated with water and at the end of the day, while driving home stumbling across a 7-11 with a grape slurpee machine.
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    Incandescent torches satisfy, its as simple as that. A well driven hotwire is as good as it gets for high quality lumens.

    This was proved to me after I lost a small spring washer from my car on the garage floor. I tried two LED lights - one a Nichia Hi CRI - yet was not able to distinguish the item. Picked up my 1930's Ever Ready rocking a 6 Volt Krypton bulb, found it in about 10 seconds.

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    Carrying an E2e with LF EO E2R 150lm bulb driven by rwo IMR 16340's today in honor of this thread. Well driven, indeed.

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    I loved my e1e! As well as my A2. Miss them both will have to start looking for them to buy once again.
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    I'm jumping in, I always have half a dozen boxes of CR123 and will burn the oldest bunch off with my lego G2 with 6P bezel and one of my stash of P60 lamps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnyh View Post
    Kind of like in the old days when sitting around with incandescent light bulbs. Things don't appear particularly yellow to the eye. But if you took a photo with a camera with no white balance, the photo, when developed, would look horribly yellowed. The old film camera actually captured what was the actual color in the room, not what your brain and eyes perceived at the time.
    Middle of the day or middle of the night incandescent illumination has always looked yellow to me. I never prefer it. At night I like dimmer white light.
    Quote Originally Posted by tech25 View Post
    That nostalgic glow! I have a hard time upgrading my Surfire E2E from that warm beam. For the meantime I keep a 16650 in it and enjoy those warm guilt free lumens.
    I would never "upgrade" my E2e. It's fine as it is. I don't carry it but often use it when messing with wires behind tv.

    I miss my E1e but was worth more to collectors than to me.

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    I carried an E2e in my back pocket for several years, and always had my prized M6 guardian nearby. I love my modern LED lights, but I remember those days fondly. I had never heard of any such thing as a "Color Rendition Index."
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    I still use my E1e and E2e almost daily! My yellow G2 is a favorite camp light.

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    Quite a response, glad to see the tungsten is far from being forgotten.

    A couple mentioned the E2e, I miss mine. Anyone remember winelight?
    Theres something about Surefires of that era, circa 2003 when PK was an up and running New Product Development Manager and just debuted the Aviator.

    I dugout the oldest of my old hotwires. An ordinary 2D eveready that held a mag 6D bulb and a early development Mdocod 6AA to 2D adapter. Being an idiot the cells have since exploded and welded the battery holder inside the plastic body. Would have been remarkable to light it up again

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    This thread made me dig out my 9P. I remember when I first purchased it a long time ago. It was at the time my brightest light. Another CPFer encouraged me to buy it, Critter Ridder. I hope he is doing well. I took that sucker camping and it split time with a E2O I bought from Old Grandpa Jack. I hope he is doing well too! Ahhh the pleasant memories these lights bring back! My E2O is loaded up and ready to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelmo View Post
    This thread made me dig out my 9P. I remember when I first purchased it a long time ago. It was at the time my brightest light. Another CPFer encouraged me to buy it, Critter Ridder. I hope he is doing well. I took that sucker camping and it split time with a E2O I bought from Old Grandpa Jack. I hope he is doing well too! Ahhh the pleasant memories these lights bring back! My E2O is loaded up and ready to go.
    Your post made me remember my C3 Centurion! In those days I worked as a night shift security guard. There were no shadows or dark corners I feared with my 105 lumen p90 lamp assembly. Always had the p91 in my spares carrier in case things got hairy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelmo View Post
    This thread made me dig out my 9P. I remember when I first purchased it a long time ago. It was at the time my brightest light. Another CPFer encouraged me to buy it, Critter Ridder. I hope he is doing well. I took that sucker camping and it split time with a E2O I bought from Old Grandpa Jack. I hope he is doing well too! Ahhh the pleasant memories these lights bring back! My E2O is loaded up and ready to go.
    Those CPF days of 2006 really were great. I loved the SF range and ended up with a fair few E1's, E2's and E2O's. I remember a seller who used to split lights so you could just buy a E1 body or an extra head for a few bucks. Pocket money fun!

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    Yesterday I took my E2e for walk with the dog - it's still an excellent flashlight and does the job.
    I am running a 16650 Keeppower rechargeable with a Tad 3712 bulb (3.7V, 1.2V, 80 lumens, $2 / bulb :-)) and a Surefire FM54 diffuser, this should get me about 2 hours of guilt-free 80 incandescent lumens

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    Thanks for sharing Illum! I have been a bit interested to get an E1e and have seen a few at ebay but the price has been a bit too high...

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    I still carry my stock E2e in an everyday "gadget" bag. It used to be paired with an E1e with a KL1 head. I prefer incandescent outdoors, so I still carry the E2e, but the E1e has been replaced with the Nitecore TIP. The E series of SF lights represented the optimum size for me, and I was always hoping SF would come out with an E3e for added output.
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    I still use my E2e with stock bulb around the house with 2 primaries. They last a long time.

    I've got a Surefire 2 way clip I keep meaning to put on it.

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    The E1E is an amazing light....I bought four of them right before they all but disappeared....

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    I already have an E2E; now you just made me want to get an E1e.

    Thanks a lot!

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    They really are nice. I keep buying and selling them because I never actually carry one. Just live them around the house.

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    I was never a fan of the E1e as an incandescent flashlight. I bought one very early on, and was disappointed (low output for size and too pricey), so returned it...then the KL1 LED heads were introduced, and I was hooked. Used to EDC the KL1 version for years, but no longer--other, smaller/brighter/more versatile lights these days. Still EDC the E2e incandescent though.
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    Surefire could get well overnight if they started making e1e and e2e incandescent flashlights again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recDNA View Post
    Surefire could get well overnight if they started making e1e and e2e incandescent flashlights again.
    fairly certain to restart the line to make the lamps will be cost prohibitive given how far LED has come.

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    My main EDC Squeeze is either an E2e with Tad's 3718 bulb or a Prometheus Alpha RM. I'm looking for a E1e for the rotation and I'll run a 3712 Tad bulb in it.

    I've been considering selling the Alpha. It's a great light, uncompromised craftsmanship. But with 16650's and 16340's there isn't a huge advantage to LED's, not to me. I use my lights for working on stuff and color-rendering is a big deal to me. Max lumens just isn't. Also, it's pretty incredible how many lumens it takes an LED to throw as far as a much weaker incan. It's harder to get that nice flood without a diffuser, but the LED lights have been quickly losing their appeal to me since I just don't need a super bright light 90% of the time.

    But even then, I'm covered for super bright with my M6, LF bulb and 3x16650 setup. Randy Johnson can't throw anything past my M6.

    I even replaced my weapon light with an incan. And Keeppower 16650's arent that expensive, either. It's almost impossible to beat the E1/E2 on EDC size. And on BEASTMODE the M6 is also an excellent size. I feel like my bases are covered and thank God daily for cheap bulbs from Tad and rechargeable batteries from Keeppower.

    Everyone has an application. In mine, I think incans just rule the roost. And there is a lot of incan support right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbyjimb View Post
    My main EDC Squeeze is either an E2e with Tad's 3718 bulb or a Prometheus Alpha RM. I'm looking for a E1e for the rotation and I'll run a 3712 Tad bulb in it.

    I've been considering selling the Alpha. It's a great light, uncompromised craftsmanship. But with 16650's and 16340's there isn't a huge advantage to LED's, not to me. I use my lights for working on stuff and color-rendering is a big deal to me. Max lumens just isn't. Also, it's pretty incredible how many lumens it takes an LED to throw as far as a much weaker incan. It's harder to get that nice flood without a diffuser, but the LED lights have been quickly losing their appeal to me since I just don't need a super bright light 90% of the time.

    But even then, I'm covered for super bright with my M6, LF bulb and 3x16650 setup. Randy Johnson can't throw anything past my M6.

    I even replaced my weapon light with an incan. And Keeppower 16650's arent that expensive, either. It's almost impossible to beat the E1/E2 on EDC size. And on BEASTMODE the M6 is also an excellent size. I feel like my bases are covered and thank God daily for cheap bulbs from Tad and rechargeable batteries from Keeppower.

    Everyone has an application. In mine, I think incans just rule the roost. And there is a lot of incan support right now.
    Excellent comment.

    I have plenty of LED lights and they have thier place, mainly in the runtime portion. However, I find myself carrying incans as well. A2 with tads 3712 bulb and an E1E with mn01 or tads 3712. I find the mn01 plenty for its use. More like 30 lumens to me and throws well. Plus the size can't be beat. KL1 makes it loose it's appeal to me personally because of added size. In fact I used my e1e last night during a run where it was really foggy. My led headlamp washed out the path but the e1e with the f04 allowed me to see the path. Surefire could have kept the executive platform and still used good leds in neutral or warm. Yeah still not the same as an incan but the size could have remained small. Everyone knows they aren't the same company they used to be.

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    Yeah, vintage Surefires are really incredible lights. The LED models don't have the same appeal. But honestly, I just love that warm incan light so much. It's comforting in the dark for some inexplicable, primal reason that speaks to a part of my brain that likes fire and sharpened wood poles and meat off the bone.

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    Been away, moved from Sunshine state north, renting tiny house in the woods more or less ever since last post. Except for carrying backup on keychain, I have gone full incan, full E. Nothing compares.

    Illum, we had a couple PM's regarding a sale you had some time ago, where I speculated you still had some E stuff... that i wanted if you were to sell. What you describe here I WANT. So please remember me if you ever decide to sell, as first in, first dibs, whathaveyou.

    Regardless, c'mon, post some pics of that beauty. Thanks.

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    Me too! Full incan. 2xE2e w/LF bulbs and 16650's, E1e w/Tad bi-pin and 3712 bulb and 16340, 6P w/P60, M951 w/P60, 1xM6 w/LF 700lm bulb and 3x16650

    I went a bit excessive and I have yet to actually make good use of my M6. Only LED lights I have left are Fenix head lamps. I'd prefer an incan there too, though.

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