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    Quote Originally Posted by Badbeams3 View Post
    Lol...when I joined Surefire only had incandescents...they were about the last company to jump on the LED bandwagon, as replacement bulbs were one of their profit streams.. And for years refused to market lights that could use rechargeables, as they sold regular lithium batteries, a large part of their profits/business model. And I think I remember folks always having to clean the tailcaps...somewhat problematic...if I remember right.
    You were one of the first. CPF started in 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashlight Dave View Post
    I purchased a p60 light engine on Amazon which pulls 3.5 amps so Surefire is not the only one who does it.
    There is a category of people that drive the red light just because “they need to”, but this does not mean it is safe

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    I think I am okay with the way surefire has solved this - the flashlight tries to squeeze as much power as possible during the first minute and then it will step down. In most situations you need the high output for a brief moment to check something in the distance or in a tactical situation where you surprise / blind the attacker. The EDCL2 high mode is not meant for constant on in the high mode. Next time you turn it on it will again try to deliver as many lumens as possible.
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    +1

    Yes, it is not a household/utility flashlight, but a tactical one from a tactical company.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_sk View Post
    I think I am okay with the way surefire has solved this - the flashlight tries to squeeze as much power as possible during the first minute and then it will step down. In most situations you need the high output for a brief moment to check something in the distance or in a tactical situation where you surprise / blind the attacker. The EDCL2 high mode is not meant for constant on in the high mode. Next time you turn it on it will again try to deliver as many lumens as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimax View Post
    There is a category of people that drive the red light just because “they need to”, but this does not mean it is safe
    True but they don't seem to be blowing up right and left either. Maybe Surefire has a grip on this. I and it seems others here have some confidence in Surefire that they at least don't want to put out a product that will cause law suits in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_sk View Post
    I think I am okay with the way surefire has solved this - the flashlight tries to squeeze as much power as possible during the first minute and then it will step down. In most situations you need the high output for a brief moment to check something in the distance or in a tactical situation where you surprise / blind the attacker. The EDCL2 high mode is not meant for constant on in the high mode. Next time you turn it on it will again try to deliver as many lumens as possible.
    Just clicked your A2 link.
    Wow!!

    I say that to share a potential idea for this EDCL2-T...
    An AZ2 head mod. I have one in the mail scheduled to arrive a day or so after the scheduled delivery of the new SureFire with a gas pedal switch. If it works it'll be an A2 type E light. If it doesn't, well I can always enjoy a TIR beam with the addition of 4 flooders beside the pencil beam in a sorta Max Vision E2D platform.

    And in regards to the max draw.... I recently brought up that concern with a trusted coleague and friend who reminded me of the M6. This is not the first SureFire to push the envelope.
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    No tactitian today but I did get my edcl2. My version has a low pretty close to my factory LX2. Ita just slightly dimmer. The beam is great and not as tight as my LX2. The tint is in the neutral side with no wierd green or other awful tint. Will wait for dark bit I believe we might have a winner here!

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    I wanted to check CPF on my way home to see if yours had arrived but thought it not a great idea in 5-oclock traffic.
    Glad to see you got it.

    Mine is loaded onto an outgoing truck for tomorrow... and I'm going to be out of town for two days... dawg-gonnit!

    I'm one step closer to a potential E2 Aviator...

    AZ2 head arrived


    Basically same length.
    Photo doesn't correctly show that, but it is.
    The idea was to try it on an EDCL-1T. On an EB1c only the low beam works so there went that idea.
    On the E2D all five LED's light up for an older LED E beam with lots of flood.

    Hopefully the EDCL-2T it can do low and high...
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    Got mine today, unfortunately the head only functions in high mode when on the A2L body, must have a different resistor in the two state switch. Kinda bummed about not having that lego option.

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    Low mode is close to the roughly 30-40 lumen low on the LX2, so we can expect not the stated 60 hours but closer to 30 hours on fresh primaries?
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    LX2 on low



    Edcl2 on low


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    Not to stray too far off topic...
    But is that a Johnny Lightning track?

    That's a mighty bright 5 lumens. Wow!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    Not to stray too far off topic...
    But is that a Johnny Lightning track?

    That's a mighty bright 5 lumens. Wow!!
    Lol. I just looked and nothing states johnny lightning. Just hot wheels. My son does love it though.

    And yes. Much brighter then I was expecting for the low. Hopefully my tactitian is the same way.

    Also. I tried the edcl2 head on the lx2 body and it worked just like it did on the edcl2 body. Same low. However. The lx2 head on the edcl2 body only yielded one mode. High. No low mode.

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    So the EDCL2-T head seams to work on my A2L body with primaries but with a 16650 its high mode only (same 16650 works for low and high in the EDCL2-T body).

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    Some night shots. Distance to grain bin is roughly 80 yards.

    Lx2


    Edcl2


    Just for fun. M6 on a fivemega 3-16650 with a new lumens factory imr m6 bulb 1000 bulb lumens.

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    Also. Keeppower 16650 2500 mah fits like others have stated. Light works like normal with the exception of the low beimg more like the printed 5 lumen low. No flickering.

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    Nice pix.

    Johnny Lightning was Hot Wheels competition in the late 60's and early 70's. Hot Wheels had the backing of Mattel. Johhny Lightning was owned by Topper.
    In 2009 JohnnyLightning made a comeback under a different owner, which was why I asked.

    Anyway it sounds like the AZ2 idea may not work...
    Thanks for the awesome photos and details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    Nice pix.

    Johnny Lightning was Hot Wheels competition in the late 60's and early 70's. Hot Wheels had the backing of Mattel. Johhny Lightning was owned by Topper.
    In 2009 JohnnyLightning made a comeback under a different owner, which was why I asked.

    Anyway it sounds like the AZ2 idea may not work...
    Thanks for the awesome photos and details.
    Ahhh. I dont personally remember Johnny lightning but it was a little before my time. Lol.

    Glad my crummy pics helped a bit. I will say I didnt have very high hopes for this light when it was first released. I now however have been wrong about it. My only complaint is the lack of a lanyard ring. The new tir lense is a home run compared to years past. Some may debate its not as good because of the lack of lux and the less tighter beam. I personally like the added spill. I will have a tough time deciding if the tactitian is anywhere close to this!

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    I'll add a +1 for SF to reintroduce the outdoorsman lights using their new tech.

    I'd like to see 5 low/2-300 high with either a TIR or the MV beam.

    I'm sure it wouldn't be for everyone, but similarly I'm not sure 5/1200 is for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teak View Post
    Ahhh. I dont personally remember Johnny lightning but it was a little before my time. Lol.

    Glad my crummy pics helped a bit. I will say I didnt have very high hopes for this light when it was first released. I now however have been wrong about it. My only complaint is the lack of a lanyard ring. The new tir lense is a home run compared to years past. Some may debate its not as good because of the lack of lux and the less tighter beam. I personally like the added spill. I will have a tough time deciding if the tactitian is anywhere close to this!
    Is it a new TIR lens?
    My guess is it's the same as the one in the XPG2 driven EB1/E1D except it uses an XPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F89 View Post
    Is it a new TIR lens?
    My guess is it's the same as the one in the XPG2 driven EB1/E1D except it uses an XPL.
    Yes that is correct. Latest version when they went to the big head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teak View Post
    Yes that is correct. Latest version when they went to the big head.
    Not a bad thing. I don't mind it as far as TIR goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F89 View Post
    Not a bad thing. I don't mind it as far as TIR goes.
    No. It looks good. Very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teak View Post






    How about a shot of the tail cap? It looks really shallow compared to the past lights.

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    Ordered mine today and they told me it was backordered. Did not give a date but did say the Tactician was backordered to the 18th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashlight Dave View Post
    How about a shot of the tail cap? It looks really shallow compared to the past lights.
    It is shallow but works very well. Much better feel then the EB2T line was. Travel is normal. Here is a pic




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    Quote Originally Posted by kj2 View Post
    Noorloos Specialist Equipment.
    If anyone from Europe is considering ordering an EDCL2-T from them - they don't actually have it in stock (even though the site says so). I also asked about cheaper shipping options - with an negative reply.
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    Ok here is my view on the tactitian compared to the edcl2.

    I used both tonight around the house as well as outside. Size goes to the tactitian for sure. As well as the ability to attach a lanyard. The tactitian seems to run more normal on a 16650 over the edcl2. The edcl2 works fine on a 16650 with the exception of the low losing output.

    The maxvision beam is great. Nice tint. Id say around 5500k. Low is closer to the rated 5 lumens. Low is fairly useful as long as you are up close. Say out to 10 feet. High is very nice and is very wide. Useful to about 50 yards. You can see further of course but as far as identifying a person or animal, 50 yards is good.

    The interface is fine. Sure beats cycling through modes like eb1, ed1 etc. However. It isnt as quick going from one mode to the other of course. I still prefer how the interface is on the tactitian over the said eb2 etc. The pocket clip is robust and it will take some extra effort to break it. I do like that. I dont have a problem with the bezel up. Some may.

    Overall the tactitian is a great improvement over many of the older offerings. E2D EB2 etc.

    As for the edcl2. Size wise is ok but bigger then id like. Doesnt have an easy way to attach a lanyard. Interface is to me the best there is. Lx2 a2 l1 etc gas pedal switch. This latest version works very well. Nice travel and a great feel. The low is higher then the rated 5 lumens. Pretty close to the lx2. Using low on this light is very useful and low is pretty much all thats needed for general use. Beam wise is pretty wide. Much wider then the old tir of lx2 and others. Also better to me then the g2 led that was used in the 500 lumen eb2 e2dlu etc. High is a thing of beauty. Tint wise id say close to 4500k. Better throw then tactitian obviously due to the tir. Spill is very good as well and only giving the tactitian a slight edge in that department. To me the edcl2 is easier to use both modes due to the gas pedal tailcap, thats pretty obvious though. I really like them both and I'm going to keep them both. However if I had to choose just one id probably go with the edcl2.

    Below is a pic of the tactitian and the edcl2. Grain bin is roughly 80 yards.

    Tactician

    Edcl2

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    Life on my street before EDCL2-T


    After


    The throw pic.

    AZ2 is high only. Dratz.
    E2D tailcap threads on but not "deep" enough to make this a Z68 clicky.

    Now it's back to work. Yup, drove 2 hours in snow, grabbed light off my porch, did pix and now headed back in a snow storm.

    I think I'm a flashaholic....
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