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    Well said eh4. I see my mkIII fc as a lifetime purchase, or at least something that I won't consider upgrading for a decade or 2. I've been upgrading my sc's every year or so, however...

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    This user reports overheating of the spring in addition to the already known PID output behavior...
    http://budgetlightforum.com/node/59082
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    Quote Originally Posted by scs View Post
    This user reports overheating of the spring in addition to the already known PID output behavior...
    http://budgetlightforum.com/node/59082
    Hi, it is me!
    Overheating is one part of a problem. The other side is large voltage drop on overheated spring it results in stepdown from H1 at 3.8V. (even under active cooling). So if your battery <3.8v you can turn on H1, but after heating up of spring step down take place.

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    Flicker? Overheating spring? Oscillating PID?

    I really regret being such a greedy bastard and pre-ordering.
    Although Zebralight had a really good track-record so far in my perception.

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    Default Re: Zebralight H600/H604/H600F MKIV headlamp

    I ordered a H600Fc Mk IV 18650 XHP50.2 Floody 4000K High CRI Headlamp on 12/27. Still haven't received it, despite 4 emails with assurance it would be shipped in "3-7 days" that was 21 days ago and the latest email says 1-3 weeks, "sorry"

    Anybody know what the deal is? Wondering if I should cancel this order if there are known problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ateupwithgolf View Post
    I ordered a H600Fc Mk IV 18650 XHP50.2 Floody 4000K High CRI Headlamp on 12/27. Still haven't received it, despite 4 emails with assurance it would be shipped in "3-7 days" that was 21 days ago and the latest email says 1-3 weeks, "sorry"

    Anybody know what the deal is? Wondering if I should cancel this order if there are known problems?

    Must be a zebralight lurker on here LOL. I just got shipping confirmation. Go figure.

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    Tell the lurker they need to do a it more work on the MK IV 's before I buy one

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    Quote Originally Posted by likethevegetable View Post
    My solution for magnetizing my lights is gluing an array of rectangular magnets approx. 2x3x5 mm each on the pocket clip, and putting some heat shrink around it for protection. It takes 3 or 4 to get a nice strength - I've hung my H53c with an Eneloop from a screw. The real beauty of using a pocket clip for magnets is the ability to point a right angle light anywhere in a hemisphere.
    I was wondering where you got your magnets?Thanks

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    Does anyone know the runtimes for H600FD for each mode, H1, H2 etc ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ank View Post
    Does anyone know the runtimes for H600FD for each mode, H1, H2 etc ?
    Runtimes should be the same as for H600fc
    According my tests with cooling and new 18650GA ~1600lm 10min, ~1000лм 55min. Without coolind at 25C for 1600,1000,600 runtimes are about 2.5 h
    Last edited by AEDe; 03-02-2018 at 04:24 AM.

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    AliExpress I believe. They're very strong and reasonably priced.

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    I read and reread this and a couple other zebralight threads. Not knowing what to buy. I bought the h600fw mk4 and h600fc mk4 off of amazon and I've had a couple days to play with them. I'll be sending back my least favorite one.
    I'm a newbie, these are my first 18650 lights. So I figure I'll contribute my observations.FWIW
    My sony vtc6's with my extra wrap fit nicely into these headlamps They are my vape batteries.

    There is a noticable flickering I think you guys call it "ringing". It seems more obvious on the Fc than the Fw. The longest time I've observed it was about 4 seconds when the light is dimming from H1. This doesn't bother me, as long as it doesn't get worse.

    I've ran it pretty hard H1 till it dims down and turning it off quickly and back on to high till it dims down. My spring never got hot (I'm not insinuating that anyone else's didn't). I Did test the side of the light with my cheap infared thermometer and the hottest I measured was 60degrees Celsius. The battery tested about 38 Celsius at the positive end.

    Light comes through the button on the fc but not the fw.

    More random statements

    Darn, I was hoping they would be alittle brighter.

    The Fw throws further outside, but has a more defined hotspot which could be annoying with close work.

    The color of the Fc is preferable everywhere except snow covered ground, although that's no biggy.

    I think the Fc will meet all my needs...basement work, attic, car, working late outside as a carpenter. The one place I'm not thrilled with it, is the woods with it's lack of throw. But I guess there has to be a compromise somewhere.
    I'm gonna try to take them out into the woods one more time before I have to make a decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdhvn View Post
    I'm gonna try to take them out into the woods one more time before I have to make a decision.
    Could you take a picture to do a comparison beamshot if it's not much trouble? I would really appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fespe View Post
    Could you take a picture to do a comparison beamshot if it's not much trouble? I would really appreciate it
    I'll see if I can get some useful pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdhvn View Post
    I'll see if I can get some useful pictures.

    Thank you very much! I'm from Italy and I buy the ZL from nkon, but right now they are all out of stock except for the fc and fd.
    Now...since I would use the light mostly in the woods for hiking I would have prefer the fw for the more brightness. So I'm undecided if waiting for nkon to restock the fw or go with the fc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fespe View Post
    Thank you very much! I'm from Italy and I buy the ZL from nkon, but right now they are all out of stock except for the fc and fd.
    Now...since I would use the light mostly in the woods for hiking I would have prefer the fw for the more brightness. So I'm undecided if waiting for nkon to restock the fw or go with the fc.
    H600Fd/c Mk IV 18650 with XHP50.2 IS actually brighter than H600Fw Mk IV 18650 with XHP35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niraya View Post
    H600Fd/c Mk IV 18650 with XHP50.2 IS actually brighter than H600Fw Mk IV 18650 with XHP35.
    Ok, but in terms of how the light would perform in the woods (in this case for me to illuminate better or see further when walking) the fw is it better or not? Of course with both headlamp at the same lumen.
    Last edited by Fespe; 03-12-2018 at 05:54 AM.

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    The purpose of the H600f series is to use for close and mid-range distances. The difference between fw and FC for throw might be noticeable side by side, but insignificant if throw is most important for you. If you prefer throw, and don't mind 80 CRI, I would definitely recommend the H600w instead. It will throw significantly further, but still have a useful spill, and you can put DC fix film on the lens for the times you want an Fw kind of beam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPL View Post
    The purpose of the H600f series is to use for close and mid-range distances. The difference between fw and FC for throw might be noticeable side by side, but insignificant if throw is most important for you. If you prefer throw, and don't mind 80 CRI, I would definitely recommend the H600w instead. It will throw significantly further, but still have a useful spill, and you can put DC fix film on the lens for the times you want an Fw kind of beam.
    thanks! I'm going mad deciding between H600w and H600fw!! For sure I need and like throw, but I wouldn't mind better light where my feet are.
    I read a lot, and like you said many people suggest the h600w! And if you need more flood you can put the tape on the lens.
    I think I should buy both model and then keep what I like and is best for me!!😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fespe View Post
    Thank you very much! I'm from Italy and I buy the ZL from nkon, but right now they are all out of stock except for the fc and fd.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fespe View Post
    Now...since I would use the light mostly in the woods for hiking I would have prefer the fw for the more brightness. So I'm undecided if waiting for nkon to restock the fw or go with the fc.


    Quote Originally Posted by niraya View Post
    H600Fd/c Mk IV 18650 with XHP50.2 IS actually brighter than H600Fw Mk IV 18650 with XHP35.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fespe View Post
    Ok, but in terms of how the light would perform in the woods (in this case for me to illuminate better or see further when walking) the fw is it better or not? Of course with both headlamp at the same lumen.
    Lumen is measure of total quantity of VISIBLE light. Fc/d & Fw at same lumen = same luminous flux = same perceived brightness. At same lumen difference will be in color range (high CRI),not in brightnes and slight difference in throw due to emitter size.
    Last edited by niraya; 03-12-2018 at 09:07 AM.

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    In case you haven't seen this yet these are some great comparisons. http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/th...rgleich.50095/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdhvn View Post
    In case you haven't seen this yet these are some great comparisons. http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/th...rgleich.50095/
    Yes...I look at this page everyday!!
    Right now I could buy only the fc or fd (or the h600 cool white, but I don't want that tint) because they are the only one available on nkon.
    The picture are great and give you an idea of the beam, but till I don't have it on my head and test it I can't say if the throw of the h600fw would be enough for me or I would need more.
    I think that I'm going to wait for the restock and then choose between h600w or fw. Right now I'm more inclined to the h600w, but I have time to think about it!! Because I sent an email to nkon asking when the headlamp would be available again, and they said that they already contacted zebralight for a restock and said that zebralight usually take weeks or a few month to send the headlamp.......

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    I think you have the perfect plan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fespe View Post
    Yes...I look at this page everyday!!
    Right now I could buy only the fc or fd (or the h600 cool white, but I don't want that tint) because they are the only one available on nkon.
    The picture are great and give you an idea of the beam, but till I don't have it on my head and test it I can't say if the throw of the h600fw would be enough for me or I would need more.
    I think that I'm going to wait for the restock and then choose between h600w or fw. Right now I'm more inclined to the h600w, but I have time to think about it!! Because I sent an email to nkon asking when the headlamp would be available again, and they said that they already contacted zebralight for a restock and said that zebralight usually take weeks or a few month to send the headlamp.......
    I have/had H600fd, H600fc, H600fw as well as h600w

    I use them indoor and outdoor and IMHO H600w is least usefull as headlamp of the four.
    If I can only keep one it will be definitively H600fd .

    If I should rank them from best to worst for all combined indoor/outdoor uses it will be:

    1. H600fd
    2. H600fc
    3. H600fw
    4. H600w

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    Quote Originally Posted by niraya View Post
    I have/had H600fd, H600fc, H600fw as well as h600w

    I use them indoor and outdoor and IMHO H600w is least usefull as headlamp of the four.
    If I can only keep one it will be definitively H600fd .

    If I should rank them from best to worst for all combined indoor/outdoor uses it will be:

    1. H600fd
    2. H600fc
    3. H600fw
    4. H600w
    Thanks! Could you tell me the big difference in tint between the fw and fd?

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    Rolleye11 Re: Zebralight H600/H604/H600F MKIV headlamp

    Tint is different from sample to sample.
    fd tint deviation is 3 step vs 5 step in fw - so chance is that your sample of fd will be closer to BBL than random sample of fw
    fw is warmer CCT - 4500 vs 5000
    fd is much higher CRI - 90-93 vs 80 - colors look more natural in fd light - especially red, brown, orange, ...
    fd is newer, brighter, more efficient, in many ways improved emitter - xhp50.2 vs xhp35
    details see here:
    http://www.cree.com/led-components/p.../xlamp-xhp50-2
    http://www.cree.com/led-components/p...te/xlamp-xhp35

    If your area is forest I would definitively go for fc/d rather than fw

    It is cheaper from http://www.zebralight.com than https://eu.nkon.nl/ (all h600x mkiv cost same there, unlike at nkon). And to Europe they will mark it under 22EUR VAT limit, if you ask them.
    Last edited by niraya; 03-13-2018 at 04:54 AM.

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    Thanks!! Now it's more clear the cri subject!
    I choose nkon only cuz I thought in case I need to send the light back maybe it would cost me less money and the shipment process seems better for Europe. And the price if you buy from zebralight with the tracking it's similar, if I'm not wrong.

    They said this on international shipments

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    International Shipping
    Packages are sent via China Registered Air Mail. Delivery time varies from 10 days to several months depending on customs and local delivery conditions. International orders are guaranteed to be shipped, but delivery cannot be guaranteed due to varying international conditions. Unquote

    So I don't know if it's secure or not, whereas nkon it's perfect!! I bought 2 light from them and shipment and customers service it was great!

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    Default Re: Zebralight H600/H604/H600F MKIV headlamp

    Quote Originally Posted by Fespe View Post
    Thanks!! Now it's more clear the cri subject!
    I choose nkon only cuz I thought in case I need to send the light back maybe it would cost me less money and the shipment process seems better for Europe. And the price if you buy from zebralight with the tracking it's similar, if I'm not wrong.

    They said this on international shipments

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    International Shipping
    Packages are sent via China Registered Air Mail. Delivery time varies from 10 days to several months depending on customs and local delivery conditions. International orders are guaranteed to be shipped, but delivery cannot be guaranteed due to varying international conditions. Unquote

    So I don't know if it's secure or not, whereas nkon it's perfect!! I bought 2 light from them and shipment and customers service it was great!
    I bought some armytek lights and many batteries from nkon few times. I agree nkon is excellent - two days shipping.
    From Zebralight tracked shipping from China to Europe was always free for my orders, but took longer - 1-3 weeks (depends on stock). But I do not ever need any flashlight urgently.

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    You are right, the shipment from China is free but if you want tracking it's not.

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    I have taken som current draw measurements from my h600fc mkiv if anyone is interested.

    I measured the 6 highest settings (of 12 total). Battery was a ncr18650b at about 4.1v

    12. 1568lm. 5300ma
    11. 980lm. 2700ma
    10. 562lm. 1270ma
    9. 296lm. 550ma
    8. 143lm. 230ma
    7. 63lm. 110ma

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