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    Default Who's taking over at Home Depot?

    A little while ago, I noticed that almost all off the Ax/household/non-specialty bulbs at Home Despot were marked with yellow clearance tags on the shelf. I would have picked up some spares, but the discounts weren't that great.

    Fast forward to yesterday, all the shelves were bare except for Feit products. I asked one of the associates what was going on, and he said Philips/GE and the other brands were being replaced by Feit and another brand. Anyone know what the story is, or what the other brand will be? I haven't been back since.

    It also appears they're revamping the stores, eliminating the customer service counters in favor of stations with terminals.

    The checkout stands are also gone, in favor of table-like self-checkout stations, none of which were ready to take cash. I wonder how that will work?

    I had to have the attendant corral a guy to check me out. Sorry dude, I'm not going to charge an 88 cent light switch, and then have corporate spam me for a review because I had bought something online from your with the same card in the past, courtesy of your unwanted big data analysis, so drop the pissy attitude.

    Ugh.

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    If it's in California the CEC recently banned just about every LED currently on the market. They are pushing for higher efficiency, higher CRI bulbs. They must also have a "JA8 Compliant" stamp, also.

    It's crazy because some of these bulbs, in some form factors, don't even exist yet. So, for us in California, it will be awhile.

    Some stores stocked up. Not all have.

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    Last month at my local Home Despot I got a box of 2 x GE Reveal LED 100 watt equiv on clearance for $6, my kinda deal. All the Feits I've ever bought have the 60hz PWM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarHalo View Post
    Last month at my local Home Despot I got a box of 2 x GE Reveal LED 100 watt equiv on clearance for $6, my kinda deal. All the Feits I've ever bought have the 60hz PWM.
    It's 120Hz and it's not PWM, it's ripple from the input AC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeRodge View Post
    If it's in California the CEC recently banned just about every LED currently on the market. They are pushing for higher efficiency, higher CRI bulbs. They must also have a "JA8 Compliant" stamp, also.

    It's crazy because some of these bulbs, in some form factors, don't even exist yet. So, for us in California, it will be awhile.

    Some stores stocked up. Not all have.
    Yes, you have a lot of stupid regulatory people in California. Want to improve your energy efficiency for the tradeoff of subjective light quality?? Sorry, you can't do that!

    You have never ever seen a >80CRI 4000K light source before, but we will insist that is what you will use even if it costs more and is less efficient.

    You like lighting over 4000K because it provides better visual acuity and wakes you up? Too bad!

    Residential LED lighting draws very little power, but we will insist on a PF of 0.9 even for low power sources. Hey, so it costs more and reduces the efficiency of the bulb (like 90CRI).

    You have no intention of ever dimming the bulb .... too bad! You must buy the bulb that is dimmable, even though it costs more, and likely loses some efficiency because it is dimmable.
    Last edited by ssanasisredna; 05-17-2018 at 06:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeRodge View Post
    It's crazy because some of these bulbs, in some form factors, don't even exist yet. So, for us in California, it will be awhile.
    What do they expect people to use in the meantime? Those compact fluorescent bulbs that are full of mercury and don't last as long?

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    The irony is that, to my knowledge, all of the pin-based CFL's didn't get banned. Contractors are still putting them in homes in California. They are still getting kickbacks for installing "energy efficient" fixtures. they are awful: warm up period, burn out quickly, usually break when trying to remove them from a can light.

    It's getting absurd lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeRodge View Post
    If it's in California the CEC recently banned just about every LED currently on the market. They are pushing for higher efficiency, higher CRI bulbs. They must also have a "JA8 Compliant" stamp, also.

    It's crazy because some of these bulbs, in some form factors, don't even exist yet. So, for us in California, it will be awhile.

    Some stores stocked up. Not all have.
    That wouldn't surprise me, but I didn't notice any upheavals at any other stores, and one would think that, given the sensationalist bent the media has now, especially local TV news during May Sweeps, they'd make a big deal of it. Literally all but 25% of the lighting aisle was bare.

    This strikes me more as a turf battle, with HD cutting a new deal with someone other Philips for the shelf space. Cree had their time when they first pushed their LED bulbs, Philips then took over as Cree receded some, and shared space with the HD house brand, Ecosmart, as it grew. GE was always a minor player, with bigger presences at Target and Walmart, then disappeared entirely.

    Feit has been hit and miss for me, but I'd still prefer Philips and like choice. BLowes is Sylvania/Utilitech (Feit) territory, and I can't think of any other major B&M retailer that carries Philips. It has small presences in Staples, Pep Boys, and the walking dead Sears/KM, but certainly nothing on the same scale as it had with HD.

    I need to go back soon, so I'll see what the situation is.

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    Sometimes I wonder if CEC requires frosted and reflector type LED bulbs to be plastic and heat sink based, rather than filament and glass based? Only decorative and clear bulbs come in glass and filament, while frost A shape and all reflector lamps are plastic. Yet in other states the classic glass style filament LED bulb, even in Europe, is taking over like crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIntruder View Post
    That wouldn't surprise me, but I didn't notice any upheavals at any other stores, and one would think that, given the sensationalist bent the media has now, especially local TV news during May Sweeps, they'd make a big deal of it. Literally all but 25% of the lighting aisle was bare.

    This strikes me more as a turf battle, with HD cutting a new deal with someone other Philips for the shelf space. Cree had their time when they first pushed their LED bulbs, Philips then took over as Cree receded some, and shared space with the HD house brand, Ecosmart, as it grew. GE was always a minor player, with bigger presences at Target and Walmart, then disappeared entirely.

    Feit has been hit and miss for me, but I'd still prefer Philips and like choice. BLowes is Sylvania/Utilitech (Feit) territory, and I can't think of any other major B&M retailer that carries Philips. It has small presences in Staples, Pep Boys, and the walking dead Sears/KM, but certainly nothing on the same scale as it had with HD.

    I need to go back soon, so I'll see what the situation is.
    Like I said though, "Light sources meeting the requirements of this Appendix shall be marked with “JA8-2016” to indicate their compliance with the criteria of this Appendix" -- if it doesn't say that, it can't be sold.

    Because some major outlets stocked up. Like when they banned a lot of standard incandescent bulbs. They are allowed to sell bulbs before January 2018. Any new stock, not meeting requirements would be illegal to sell

    Im dealing with the issue first hand. There are manufacturers out there and others are getting them out. But the cost skyrocketed, for me, at least. I'm selling a 90+CRI Satco for over 5.99 a bulb. They sell because all remodeled homes have to meet the standard.
    Last edited by JoeRodge; 05-17-2018 at 03:56 PM.

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