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    Default Help ID: McGizmo PD Mule

    Please help ID the LED, tint and voltage range of this beauty. Thank you.

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    Default Re: Help ID: McGizmo PD Mule

    Hard to tell with that photo resolution, but XR-E if stock ...

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...Mules-**SOLD**
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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    Hard to tell with that photo resolution, but XR-E if stock ...

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...Mules-**SOLD**

    Mod, thank you for this. I tried to dig the archives here but you are most helpful with the direct link above. According to the owner it is stock, so I assume it is XR-E. Would you know what is the voltage range of this? And also the tint?

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    Default Re: Help ID: McGizmo PD Mule

    Looks like cool white. 6-6500K

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunga View Post
    Looks like cool white. 6-6500K
    Thank you Sir. Will this work safely on a Li-ion battery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdayv View Post
    Thank you Sir. Will this work safely on a Li-ion battery?
    Yes Sir, it will. Awesome light! If you get it, be sure to share pics with us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty wage guy View Post
    Yes Sir, it will. Awesome light! If you get it, be sure to share pics with us!
    Thanks Sir! Curious how many lumens does this produce?

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    The data sheet says XR-E P4 = 80,6 lumens but I cant find the amperage. The mule is driven with 525mA, Id guess not more than 100 lumens?
    http://www.cree.com/led-components/m...090XRE-16F.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric242 View Post
    The data sheet says XR-E P4 = 80,6 lumens but I cant find the amperage. The mule is drive with 525mA, Id guess not more than 100 lumens?
    http://www.cree.com/led-components/m...090XRE-16F.pdf

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    Good to know, thanks Eric.

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    Default Re: Help ID: McGizmo PD Mule

    Thinking out loud... wouldn't the XRE be a bit dated for today's lighting needs? Though I have preferred Malkoff LL (50-70lms) over the stronger output LEDs, would I be just fine w/ the XRE on a Mule setup?


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    Back when I had a PD Mule, granted that this was when they were new and the XRE had a "respectable" amount of output ("respectable" is relative since output has far exceeded what was normal then!). I found the output was quite good for the intention of the Mule, close range flood. Granted also, that the light that I was using that the Mule was upgrading was the ION by Photons INTL (Moyshondt's original light that provided a nice and even, floody beam although it did it some how with a reflector) and that light utilized the CREE X-Lamp and had a high/low of 5/35 lumens (IIRC) so the Mule was an upgrade in output. But for close range, the Mule output was sufficient for my use. The bigger poke might be the tint of the XRE, leaning a bit greenish, but if you are not white wall hunting or a tint snob (which is easy to become with the excellent high CRI LEDs out there!) then the XRE should suffice.
    Then again, I may be a bit biased since I don't like to fool with Don's original work even though that work work was limited to the technology of the time!
    Although I (regrettably) no longer have the PD Mule, I still have a number of ION's that still get some use.
    I say, try it out for a bit, put some miles on it, then make a decision!
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    @luxlunatic - thank you for your thoughts... while I'm not a tint snob, but I might be spoiled by the Nichia's all around lately. Hoping this could compliment the other more powerful lights with its floody 'medium' output beam. I wish to try on it, and see if it fits to my liking. To begin with, the size is already a winner.

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    Seeing this thread bubble back up to the top, reminds me that it took me nearly two months of searching to finally find one for my own collection ....



    And I would like to again thank the kind seller
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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    Seeing this thread bubble back up to the top, reminds me that it took me nearly two months of searching to finally find one for my own collection ....



    And I would like to again thank the kind seller
    Wow that blue o-ring accents nicely. Is it user replaceable? Where can we get one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdayv View Post
    Wow that blue o-ring accents nicely. Is it user replaceable? Where can we get one?
    Thank you.

    Blue O-rings are not stock, but was already set up like this when I received it from the seller.

    I think they are fluorosilicone, and should be readily available in a variety of common sizes, from the usual vendors ....
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    ^^ Thanks for the info mod. ^^

    I believe this is one the McGizmo all-time classics out there!

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    Default Re: Help ID: McGizmo PD Mule

    Any hack or DIY trick to make the PD easier to activate on high (full press)? I find the resistance is quite strong and puts pressure on the thumb.

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    Default Re: Help ID: McGizmo PD Mule

    Discussed in two sections of OP listed here ....

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...McLuxIII-Ti-PD

    Note that there is some risk of damage with this procedure, of course, and seek expert assistance as necessary
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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    Discussed in two sections of OP listed here ....

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...McLuxIII-Ti-PD

    Note that there is some risk of damage with this procedure, of course, and seek expert assistance as necessary
    Thanks Mod. Have you tried it yourself? Can't imagine messing with the kilroy. Anyone did shaved off the spring? Pls share your thoughts.

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    Default Re: Help ID: McGizmo PD Mule

    No, if anything, mine is maybe a little lighter than I'd ideally prefer.

    Mine was purchased already "modded" however, so I am not sure if the spring(s) were adjusted, or stock ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    No, if anything, mine is maybe a little lighter than I'd ideally prefer.

    Mine was purchased already "modded" however, so I am not sure if the spring(s) were adjusted, or stock ?
    Thanks Mod! Thanks CPF! Was able to tweak the spring and now it's really a breeze to use the PD. Love it especially the overall size (smaller than the BOSS). While not the latest and the greatest, circa 2005, definitely a keeper.

    I cleaned it up, then installed an additional black o-ring inside, from a 6P twisty tailcap assembly. I think it looks quite nice, and fits perfectly.



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    Looks great ... I like that first photo especially.
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