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    Default Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    Hello,

    Found a L1 digital lumamax at a friend's house. It's has a dome Len but inside has another dome. What generation is this L1? Spec would be great.

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    Can you post a photo ?
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    dealgrabber2002,
    I don't know the answer to your question, but you might try checking out these threads:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...old-versus-new
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...e-L1-Evolution

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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    Yup, that is the /aspheric/ Gen4 or Gen5; 22Lm Hi, 2.2Lm Low

    Epic, epic runtime; 100+ hrs claimed.

    I think it was AngelofWar who ran the ultimate test; was still getting visible output after like 1500+ hours of sequential runtime.

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    Last edited by Kestrel; 06-13-2018 at 06:14 PM.

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    Someone posted a comparative, side-by-side photo of all six generations of the L1. Gens 1-4 had 4-flats bodies. Gens 5 & 6 had round bodies as does yours. Based upon the relative length and the relative font size of the label, I think that it is a gen 5. I just compared it to my gen 5 L1, and it looks the same.

    Edit: I was writing this as Kestrel posted.

    I think it is a gen 5 partly because of the round body and partly because of the font size and type (all caps).
    I can't compare the lens with my gen 5 because it was modded by Milkyspit, and now has a flat lens and reflector.
    Last edited by novice; 06-13-2018 at 06:18 PM.

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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    Seems way too bright to be 2.2L on low..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kestrel View Post
    Epic, epic runtime; 100+ hrs claimed.

    I think it was AngelofWar who ran the ultimate test; was still getting visible output after like 1500+ hours of sequential runtime.

    The all-time CR123 battery vampire champion.
    Of the two links I posted above, check out post# 9 on the top link, regarding runtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dealgrabber2002 View Post
    Seems way too bright to be 2.2L on low..
    That was back in the day of "SureFire Lumens"

    The thing is though, that aspheric lens - there is essentially no spill with that light model, so it had very good lux for the low lumen count. My guess as to what is perceived.

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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    It looks like some of my number recollections above are a little off; I put up a decent L1 overview thread a while back; contains quite a bit of context & specifics:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...-short-history
    Last edited by Kestrel; 06-13-2018 at 06:49 PM.

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    Thanks bud.

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    In my opinion the L1 is still a great and very useful light.
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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    Quote Originally Posted by novice View Post
    Someone posted a comparative, side-by-side photo of all six generations of the L1. Gens 1-4 had 4-flats bodies. Gens 5 & 6 had round bodies as does yours. Based upon the relative length and the relative font size of the label, I think that it is a gen 5. I just compared it to my gen 5 L1, and it looks the same.

    Edit: I was writing this as Kestrel posted.

    I think it is a gen 5 partly because of the round body and partly because of the font size and type (all caps).
    I can't compare the lens with my gen 5 because it was modded by Milkyspit, and now has a flat lens and reflector.
    I agree, gen 5. I have gen 4 and 5 and 2 gen 6s.

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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    Yes, but a short clip - so Gen5b lol.

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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    What's the runtime on hi?

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    I am thinking it should be more than 4 hrs. of runtime on Hi if it's only putting out 22lm. Or is that incorrect to compare it to today's standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dealgrabber2002 View Post
    I am thinking it should be more than 4 hrs. of runtime on Hi if it's only putting out 22lm. Or is that incorrect to compare it to today's standard.
    In the 2003 SureFire catalog the original L1 is listed on page 33 at 15 lumens for 1.5 hours. And in the 2006 catalog, the L1 is indeed listed as 22 lumens for four hours. In the 2007 catalog, L1 output is 65 lumens (of blinding light as it says in 2008) for 1.5 hours. The L1 wasn't in the 2009 catalog, it had been replaced by the mythical LX1 which never made it to market.

    For a modern comparison, the EDCL-1T puts out 500 lumens for one hour on a single CR123A cell according to SureFire.

    These runtimes have been claimed with various qualifiers and measurement methods over the years including the current FL1 standard.

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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    Is there a 18650 body for the L1?

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    Nvm, found the answer regarding 18650 body for the L1. If anyone have the answer to the tested runtime on HI for the L1, I'll appreciate that.

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    Anyone know an extender for the L1 to run on 2AA? Or a separate body?
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    Here is my 6th (and final?) generation L1 (flat glass, no dome) next to my well used four flats L2. Surefire was OUT OF THEIR MIND to discontinue the L1 and not upgrade it, to discard it to the dust bin of history. And just last week, I emailed Surefire to ask if they still had tailcaps for the L2, and they are sending me one. So kudos to them for still having parts to this dinosaur. (The L2 tailcap is worn smooth, and no longer stays on high when you screw it down tight all the way. Hopefully a new tailcap will fix that)




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    The EDCL1-T is more or less a successor of the L1: https://www.surefire.com/edcl1-every...lashlight.html
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    I just wish there is a way to run it with 2AA. I like AA lights.

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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbatime View Post
    Here is my 6th (and final?) generation L1 (flat glass, no dome) next to my well used four flats L2. Surefire was OUT OF THEIR MIND to discontinue the L1 and not upgrade it, to discard it to the dust bin of history. And just last week, I emailed Surefire to ask if they still had tailcaps for the L2, and they are sending me one. So kudos to them for still having parts to this dinosaur. (The L2 tailcap is worn smooth, and no longer stays on high when you screw it down tight all the way. Hopefully a new tailcap will fix that)




    I've found that issue is usually due to one or more of the small silver tabs in the tailcap breaking off over time.

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    Default Re: Surefire L1 digital lumamax

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbatime View Post
    Here is my 6th (and final?) generation L1 (flat glass, no dome) next to my well used four flats L2. Surefire was OUT OF THEIR MIND to discontinue the L1 and not upgrade it, to discard it to the dust bin of history. And just last week, I emailed Surefire to ask if they still had tailcaps for the L2, and they are sending me one. So kudos to them for still having parts to this dinosaur. (The L2 tailcap is worn smooth, and no longer stays on high when you screw it down tight all the way. Hopefully a new tailcap will fix that)




    If you have worn out the cap, then how often and how much do you use the L2?

    Also, take a close look at the pic under my name.

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