Gransee does it again...

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July 27, 2001

Seattle WA. (TDC): Telephony, known worldwide for his literary & scientific contributions to the flashlight world, today announced that the Arc Flashlight, manufactured by Arc Flashlight, LLC; has undergone a revision change to go along with a double-barrel shotgun full of improvements.

The new Revision 2.1 Arc Flashlight now uses a standard "O" ring instead of the wide elastic band that kept breaking & becoming frayed on earlier units. The flashlight head has a longer threaded section to reduce the chance of loss, and a compressed foam ring that all but eliminates the annoying rattle of a loose battery when the unit is in an inactive state.

The textured grip on the barrel & head were given a finer pitch; giving the Arc a slightly more "grippy" feel.

A number of other improvements were also made; please visit this page to read about them, and post your thoughts about the new improvements in this forum.

Thanks Peter. Ya done did good (as usual).
 

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Telephony is correct! Nice improvements. I didn't think it would make too much of a difference, but it does. No more rattling, and a tighter, more solid feeling all around with the same great brightness. The newer style "O" ring has a much nicer fit.

Peter this one is pulling about 180mA on a new battery
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the other 2 I have both pull that 240mA I feel the need to run this battery in to the ground and see what happens, I bet it will run longer then the other two do. I will start it at 6pm here (Chicago time) or in 15 minuets.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brock:

I will start it at 6pm here (Chicago time) or in 15 minuets.
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Hey... don't leave me out of the game.
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I'll start mine in 15 minutes (5pm Seattle time).
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EDIT:
It's 5pm. Do you know where your Arc Flashlight is?

Starting current using Duracell: 157mA
Starting solar cell current: 3.49mA

5:00 3.49mA
5:30 3.24mA
6:00 3.04mA
6:30 2.80mA
7:00 2.63mA
7:30 2.51mA
8:00 2.41mA
8:30 2.33mA
9:00 2.28mA
9:30 2.21mA
10:00 2.18mA
10:30 2.12mA (it's not even circling the drain yet)
11:00 2.06mA
11:30 1.85mA
12:00 0.25mA (it just dumped into 'moon' mode within the last few minutes)
12:15 0.06mA (I can see all those flushed baby alligators now)

I pooped out before the light did.
When I checked it at 9:00am, it was still barely glowing (though not really usefully - maybe enough as a marker light).

I pulled the battery and it metered at 0.52 volt. After resting it for only a few minutes, the Arc restarts in Sun mode, and stays that way for nearly a full minute before going back to Moon mode.

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The incredibly costly & sophisticated test set.
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One silicon solar cell, one Arc Flashlight (rev. 2.1), one pack of matches, and two bags of JKL 'LED Condoms' holding everything together. :O
 

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Burn time tests, eh? Well, you know I`d love to....but I spent the afternoon trying to get a badly behaved fire alarm to do what it was supposed to, and I`m worn out. Should have been asleep over 2 hours ago as well.

Plus I`m saving for a Light Cannon so can`t go blowing lots of cash on costly batteries (well they all are over here), not right now. Maybe another time...

...looking forward to seeing your results in the morning though. Maybe I`ll do a graph of them or something, compared to the 2old" AAA Arc.....

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oh yeah- and I almost forgot. I totally agree about the great improvement the Generation 2 Arcs are over the prototype. The best bit to me has got to be the foam battery ring- such a simple idea, yet it does so much to improve the light. I think, Craig, you spotted one or 2 nips and tucks I didn`t notice too. I never got to see a genuine Gen 1 production model (got one here that`s half and half, sort of muddled up with Gen 2 parts) but the proto is quite close from what I gather. The gen 2s don`t seem brighter but I have yet to meter the power consumptions and compare them.

Sorry my review page`s updates havn`t appeared yet but I spent last week renovating the bathroom and we`re still not finished so I`m kind of tied up right now.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chris M.:

Plus I`m saving for a Light Cannon so can`t go blowing lots of cash on costly batteries
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I'd love to see one of those things someday. October is a definite possibility - and the earliest one.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chris M.:

compared to the 2old" AAA Arc.....
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Let me guess... you got your start on a Commodore 64 or maybe a Vic 20?
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I am still testing, but I did mine with the light meter instead of the mA meter, I know I should have ran them at the same time DOH Anyway here is what I have so far. It is running a regular Duracell "MAR 05"

7:00 - 17
7:15 - 16
7:30 - 15
7:45 - 15
8:00 - 15
8:15 - 15
8:30 - 15
8:45 - 14
9:00 - 14
9:15 - 13
9:30 - 12
9:45 - 12
10:00-12
10:15-12
10:30-11
10:45-11
11:00-11
11:15-11
11:30-11
11:45-11
12:00-11
12:15-11
12:30-11
12:45-11
1:00 - 11
1:15 - 11
1:30 - 11
1:45 - 10
2:00 - 9
2:15 - 7
2:30 - 4 death is near
2:45 - maybe 2

Amazingly better the my origional proto-types. Over 6 hours of good useable light After 6 hours it is still brighter then my infinity (8) with a lithium.

I am impressed. I have to swap this one for the one on my keychain
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Looks like Craig got about the same result I did.
 

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Great results, very interesting. Looks like you both got longer burn times- but didn`t you also both get prototypes that drew a little too much current? Still, both near 7 hours until it made the switch to Moon mode- that is very impressive indeed.


Let me guess... you got your start on a Commodore 64 or maybe a Vic 20?


Not sure what you mean
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. I`m afraid I havn`t the faintest idea how to program "real" computers- HTML is about my limit. The "compared to the 2old" AAA Arc....." bit was just a typo- the " shares the same key as the 2 on UK keyboards (not sure about worldwide variations) and my shift key is a bit screwed.

Actually my first computer was a Commodore Amiga (but I was about 10-11 back then and just used it to play games)- still got it right here on the left under a pile of cables, various flashlight packagings and dead batteries.


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chris M.:

Let me guess... you got your start on a Commodore 64 or maybe a Vic 20?

Not sure what you mean
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The "compared to the 2old" AAA Arc....." bit was just a typo- the " shares the same key as the 2 on UK keyboards (not sure about worldwide
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That was exactly what I meant.
On the Commodore, the " is above the 2.
At least here in the US, there are very few computers where this is the case, and no modern (1985 or newer) computer/keyboard is like that. So I assumed you had used a C=64 sometime in the past based solely on the kind of typo you made.
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Anyway, I finished with the Arc testing.
The light actually outlasted me - I fell asleep shortly before I was to take the 12:15am reading. It was still going at 9:00am, though not very bright at that point.
Removing the battery and metering it showed it had an *open circuit* voltage of 0.52V.
Resting it for a few minutes and popping it back in gave me about another minute of "sun" mode, before dropping back to "moon" mode.
 

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I remember as a kid lusting after the C-64. But, we was "po" so my dad got me a Trash-80 instead. I often have wondered if I would have had a promising career as a programmer if I had owned a computer with a disk drive instead of a tape drive.

Geez. I would work all day on a program and then the tape drive would loose it for me.

TMI?

Peter Gransee
 
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