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    email sent.

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    Thanks! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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    BTW, on high, how does this compare to the MR-X for total output?

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    Hey Pi

    The MR-X is in a class of its own. Take a look at the lumens table below. Those figures are LuxV's driven at spec, ie 700mA. The MR-X has the poor Luxeons running at 1500mA!!!

    The PocketMate-W uses W binned Luxeons. Whilst they are also very bright, a combination of lower current drive and the flux output capability means it will not beat the king of lights [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. It will however still give you a great amount of light, coupled with its variable output, possibly a more useful light up close and at a distance. The MR-X is simply a photon thrower [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    Lumens
    W 147.7 to 192.0
    X 192.0 to 249.6

    Let's pray for some more X'es.

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    Howie You had me at hello [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] when you pulled the pocketmate out at our mini cpf meet the other night...

    And she's going to be be brighter than the prototype I saw? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

    Cam

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    Hotbeam,

    Unfortunately, I will need to remove myself from this purchase. I have to comit these funds elsewhere at this time.

    Sorry for the inconvience.

    Thanks in advance.

    Curtis

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    lightem... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    Cue... No problems

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    Default Re: Introducing... PocketMate-W. 5W variable outpu

    I think the Fatman board does get (too?) hot when running at 1.3A continuously without potting.

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    [ QUOTE ]
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    I think the Fatman board does get (too?) hot when running at 1.3A continuously without potting.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Output current is not enough to figure out how 'hot' it will run. It's the input voltage vs output voltage AND output current that needs to be known.

    Why? Because it's really the input current that is a big part of the issue. The input current is what goes through the inductor and through the series schottky in a boost regulator. The switcher's switch element is also in the picture here. Other components on Fatman are rated to at least 100C so what you 'think' is hot isn't necessarily 'that' hot [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    At 1.3A into a LuxV (say 7V) with a li-ion at 3.7V Fatman will be around 85% efficient. This means 1.3 x 7 = 9.1W output. At 85% we have 9.1/0.85 = 10.7 input. Losses = Heat = 10.7 - 9.1= 1.6Watts. That will be spread over the inductor, the schottky and the switcher.

    For a boost switcher, the efficiency drops, hence the power 'wasted' will go up as the input/output voltage differential increases.

    For 1.3A output Howard has already asked me about Fatman issues and I would provide a 'beefed' up version if he decides to go with >1A for this project.

    The switcher chip on Fatman has built in thermal protection and the switcher will turn off if the temperature rises too far.

    And finally, this light will have a dimmer pot - most of the time it would be running at lower output to conserve battery life - the 1.3A would be for short bursts (a few minutes)... I would not recommend potting.

    george.

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    Thanks for chiming in George. EM inbound shortly.


    OK guys, the hosts are due to arrive in AU late next week, ~13th Aug. I will be dropping them off to the machinist that weekend. If you are sending me hosts, please send them now. The machinist will only run the conversion in one batch. He tells me to give him one week to get it done.

    Please send PP payment to the address in my profile before the end of next week 13th Aug, that will secure your Pocketmate. I envisage a couple of weeks to get the PocketMate done and tested and should be able to ship it late August, early Sept.

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    At the moment, I don't have the money, so I will need to remove myself from the list. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/broke.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon23.gif[/img]
    There are just too many nice lights out there and I can't get them all! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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    hi hotbeam, have to opt out too this time due to lack of $$$. thanks once again for doing this.

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    Pi & Flashworm.... Sorry to loose you. That means I will have more free time [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Hotbeam.... I would like to be in for one of the pocketmate's. Black is fine...not much of a choice...

    Thanks,
    Rich

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    How much are supposed to send?
    Just wondering.
    Yaesumofo


    [ QUOTE ]
    hotbeam said:
    Thanks for chiming in George. EM inbound shortly.


    OK guys, the hosts are due to arrive in AU late next week, ~13th Aug. I will be dropping them off to the machinist that weekend. If you are sending me hosts, please send them now. The machinist will only run the conversion in one batch. He tells me to give him one week to get it done.

    Please send PP payment to the address in my profile before the end of next week 13th Aug, that will secure your Pocketmate. I envisage a couple of weeks to get the PocketMate done and tested and should be able to ship it late August, early Sept.

    [/ QUOTE ]

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    scrappy... welcome aboard. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    yaesu... costs are $175+$10 postage. Paypal to the address in my profile

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    Hotbeam -- Howard,

    Did you get my paypal payment???
    Rich

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    Thanks Rich, PP received and instructions noted. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

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    Hotbeam,
    Am sorry but have to drop off the list.
    Hope doesn't cause any problems.
    Thanks
    Xflash

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    Hotbeam,
    I would be interested in getting one, orig. config. fine. Hope I'm not to late,
    Thanks,
    Daryl

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    Xflash... Nitefish is getting yours [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Pila 168S/CR123 sleeve I presume?

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    sounds good to me

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    Howard,
    I would like one of these.
    I like the idea of using the Pila 168s.
    And the size looks just right.
    e-mail sent.
    Mike

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    Beefed up drivers are also due to me ~16/17 August.



    Likebright... EM receied and replied.
    G Pilot, Bajaiman... are you still sending me your hosts?



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    Howard...I'll be sending the host and payment on tuesday... sorry for the delay...gotta wait until my payday on tuesday [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Howard,
    PP sent.
    A max output of 1300 mA sounds good specially in a variable light.
    Nice to know you have it when you need it.
    Looking forward to this one!
    Mike [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Hotbeam,
    PP sent.

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    Bajaiman... PM's and EM's replied

    LikeBright... I think so too. A bright W binned Luxeon + overdrive to 1300mA + OA reflector means [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/buttrock.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

    Nitefish... PP received. Many tanks.

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    Hey there, noticed my name not on updated list .... is my money not green enough... Just kidding, I am really looking forward to this one. It looks so darn bright...

    Thanks
    Rich

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