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    Default Best 1 x 123 light?

    I have question from a friend looking for a good flashlight that is small, well built, yada yada. The only restriction is that it must use only one CR 123, and be noticably brighter than a CMG Infinity (which he currently owns). It will be used primarily for outdoor activities, backpacking, so an LED is preferred but not necessarily required.

    Mu first thought is the E1E series, I have 'em, I use 'em, I love 'em. I just wanted to give him more options.

    So fire away, what would (or do) you carry besides the E1E?

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    A longbow is a great light for the price and it is waterproof and upgradable.

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    Aleph II [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    Nuwai Quantum 3

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    Default Re: Best 1 x 123 light?

    e1e w/ kl1 led head

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    Default Re: Best 1 x 123 light?

    Thanks ya'll, I like that Aleph II, gonna hafta get ME one now!

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    Default Re: Best 1 x 123 light?

    Nuwai QIII...under $50. US

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    Default Re: Best 1 x 123 light?

    Under ~$40, the Nuwai QIII.

    Slightly over ~$100, the Surefire L1.

    Between those two, the Longbow or for a considerably larger light, possibly the 1L Twin Task.

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    Find out how much runtime is required. The QIII and similar models have good output but with relatively short runtime.

    If he needs more closeup light rather than throw, and for longer runtime, he might want something like the Peak LED McKinley.

    Another option might be the Streamlight Twin Task 1L which gives the option of different light levels.

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    Fire~Fly II

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    I also carry a FireFly... I love it!

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    I happy with my QIII or my T1. Both excellent lights for the money.



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    Aleph 2

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    Fire~Fly II

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    Money is the issue.

    No question that the VIP is probably #1 here. 3 levels, 1 123.

    If he'll only accept 1 123 then the Lionheart is out.

    Cost wise, the Nuwai is probably the winner. Aleph ain't exactly cheap. E1E is a good light, but you have to deal with a bulb or buy the LED head, which then makes it expensive.

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    The T1 is great! HA III, Great throw, water-resistant(?proof), lifetime warranty!

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    My fave is the Nuwai Q3! I have also a E1e, but for EDC I prefer the Q3...

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    I personally LOVE the e1e and kl1. It is very small and looks cool. It is THE perfect all-around go-everywhere light.

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    Now that is a loaded question. If he is planning to use the light in sort of a pack for camping and such where a simple good time trip can turn into a night mare, you'll want something that is very reliable.

    In my mind this rules out two things. First, I wouldn't even consider an incand light. The lamps are just too unreliable. The second things would be anything that uses a kroll switch. I can remember the last time that I built a light using a kroll switch, but I'm still sending replacements out under "warranty." The fact of the matter is that they fail. It isn't a question of whether they will fail, but when. Unless I'm mistaken, the Long Bow would fall under this category, unless you're using the twistie body.

    Since you'll probably want an all purpose light, that would rule out the latest generation of KL1s. The beam is too narrow, in my opinion anyway.

    With that being said, you can pretty much pick a light. The Q3 looks like a nice light. I really like the Aleph lights as well. The switching system on these is really bullet proof. Twist on and off with really nothing to go wrong.

    I know that an Aleph II with a nice Lux III running at 500mA will get you over 1000 lux on a meter and give you over 1.5 hours of in regulation run time in high mode.

    I just don't know of any off the shelf lights that I would recommend because I haven't seen an off the shelf single cell light that I didn't think needed modding.

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    Default Re: Best 1 x 123 light?

    Best 1 x 123 commercial light is of course the Nuwai Q3 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Aleph Series ... you can have them built to your own gusto ... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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    I never really saw that light. How is it?

    -tom

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    Nuwai Q3 is a great light. I'd also suggest something like the Inova 24/7. If you get the full accessories, it comes with a headband as well, so you can make it a headlamp instead. Besides its handy to be able to clip the light almost anywhere. Else I'd personally throw my vote in for a Tektite Splashlite Led. Runs 1x123 for about 6-8 hrs, much brighter than the Infinity (Ultra), and enclosed in a small package that's waterproof... I have a couple of these, and they are very small and bright indeed!!

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    FireFly II

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    River Rat,

    The Aleph series with the 1x123 packs are by far the nicest readily available 1x123 lights, but since you're a new CPF member and your friend is possibly not even a member at all, you or he might be shocked at the idea of paying $200 for a flashlight. All I can say is that flashaholism is a less expensive hobby than exotic sports cars. If you spring the cash for it, you'll have a light that can't be beat, but I can perfectly well understand if you decide that you're not up for something that expensive. (On the other hand, you could hang around for the next time a tvodrd light comes up for auction. Those have been going in the $500 range).

    I don't think the FFII is really appropriate. Its main goal is to be a high performance light that is as tiny as possible. But I think your friend will be fine with a normal sized light.

    Most of these high performance Luxeon lights will be 10x-15x brighter than the Infinity Ultra, which itself is about 2x brighter than the somewhat less common regular Infinity (I wonder which of those he really owns). That is, they will be in the 30 lumen range where the Ultra is maybe 3 lumens and the original Infinity is about 1.5 lumens.

    If all your friend wants is "significantly brighter" but not necessarily high performance, he might consider the Tekna Splashlite LS which is maybe 8-10 lumens, with proportionately more battery runtime than the brighter lights will have. It's made of plastic so it's very lightweight and waterproof (about 1.3 oz with battery, compared to about 2 oz for the Infinity/Ultra), and is $40 retail, possibly less from some of the CPF discount sellers if they carry it. Disclosure of interest: maybe I'm plugging this light partly because the manufacturer sent me a free one for testing, but I do like it a lot.

    Also, incandescent is ok if you're prepared for bulbs burning out at inconvenient times. That's why spares were invented, and normally carrying a spare is enough to deal with the burnout problem. LED lights are pretty new, so until recently, incandescent was all there was, and we survived. The E1e is nice, and you can always add a KL1 head later.

    Finally, the venerable UK 2L (incandescent) uses 2x123 but is still lighter with batteries than an E1e because of its plastic body. It's bright, waterproof, and very tough. It was my main outdoor light for a long long time. There's an LED lamp for it which is less bright (maybe 10-12 lumens) but will run for around 8 hours on a pair of cells. The high performance 1x123 lights will run for around 1 hour on a cell.

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    I have to disagree about the high performance light running about an hour. I suppose it depends on your definition of "high performance." A lux III running at 500mA will run in regulation for about 1.5 hours. Running at 400mA, it will run for 2 hours. In low mode, there's no telling how long it will run.

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    That's a good point, the Aleph and some of these other lights have a low mode (comparable to CMG Ultra, depending) that will run for possibly 10+ hours on one cell.

    My 1 hour estimate was based on 650 mA. I guess I should have said 1-2 hours since 400 mA is pretty common too.

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    well i had a Peak solution light and i just got a ARC4+ and i think they are great [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/happy14.gif[/img]

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    Thanks a lot Tony! Telling me my Krolls WILL fail!

    I would have to recommend the SL TT1L for what was described as need. I have mine modded with a Kroll switch on the tail. The battery in mine can only manage a weak yellow beam in Xenon mode, but chugs happily along in LED!

    I'd love to try stuff like FF, Q3 etc. But I have at best a beer budget and caviar tastes!

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    The Inova T1 is just so much more elegant than the Q3 that I can't help but recommend it.

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