ok i tested the CREEs , and i am about finished with testing Psudo Luxons, this is getting expencive , and i am getting to be a brand monkey.
the Cree, was very nice, slightly warm, but not as warm as the warm lo-moon. the phosphors are defintaly in a different postition, which means the light is not concentrated in as small an area.
it seems they would be difficult to use in flashlights.
i put Both of them on the same line, a low rated , low priced luxeon, and a cree.
both were mounted at their factories on thier heat sinks
the lux on a star, the cree on its round sink.
both were NEW, and both were tested fresh, and after a few hours of burn in.
SURELY with its high lumen per watt, and wizz bang changes in phosphor coatings it would blow the lux away.
it did NOT at all.
so i tested the voltage, the EXACT same voltage drop across each unit, the exact same current through each unit.
then
i tested to INSURE that there was no inefficiency in the drive current useage, by fluxuating the power from very low to overdriven. the current I has selected for the tests, was not at any location that either of them would be inneficient, or overdriven, both would go higher linear, and both went lower linear , so running them both a SPEC, was certannly in a place that they both were happy.
BUT
the cree was darker. this is impossible, its rated higher, so i changed the angles , and the distances, and put Colors up to light so i could compare visual capacity of certian colors, again the cree was darker.
Conclusion: well if we ask cree, it would probably be that i got a bad one. HA HA, well then i will test ALL 5, and if they are all bad then its thier darn fault they output them to the public.
ok i QUICKLY tested all 5 , and the color sameness was VERY GOOD, remember the color IS indeed less blue than the luxes, but they all put out the same ammount of light at the same current and voltage.
AND
the "Vf" which i dont pay much attention to did indeed change on the one that was "burned in" i never realized that change before, because i didnt pay attention to it.
the Price of these is aparentally lower, even though i actually paid more to aquire this set.
IT IS POSSIBLE, just like some of the china leds, that the placement and QUANTITY of Phosphors, will increase the longevity of the now lower output leds.
and the cree might have the best chance of maintaining its output over TIME.
so i will indeed mount the crees, right along with the luxes, and test them both over extended periods of time, under the same basic curcuit. they will go on and off when the luxes go on and off, they will be cooled similarly, and in few years i can determine for sure that degredation over time is one way or another.
where one shines, the other might shine brighter, only time will tell.