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    Default G2 and P6 long distance beam

    Hello ppl, can anybody post here photos of a G2 and P6 long distance(20-50 meeters) beam? please, want to compare.

    thx alot.

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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    Welcome to CPF!

    Just so I understand you, do you mean "6P" as in the SureFire 6P, or are you referring to a model "P6" by a different manufacturer?
    If this is the case, which manufacturer?

    If you did mean "6P" then since the G2 and 6P both feature the P60 Lamp Assemlby the beam produced will be the same.

    Best regards,

    Al

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    no i want to see or hear about surefire 6p and G2 beams [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    want to buy something of this [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] but warried about taht G2 has "prevx lens" and p6 only "prevx window" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    and what else you ppl can say about those 2 lights? any comments, warnings, problems found? e.t.c

    i want to know as much more info as i can find / you can provide

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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    Ah. Now I understand!

    "lens" means "window"
    SureFire uses Pyrex windows.

    Lens/window is what protects the insides from dust/water etc.

    Sometimes, LED flashlights feature "optics"
    ("optic" means "lens")

    Optic/lens is what creates the 'beam' from the light source.

    Some E2d's were released with domed glass windows. Currently, I understand they changed them to flat glass.

    Several of SureFire's LED lights have domed glass windows. The X200A, U2, KL1 etc.

    Al

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    www.knivesandtools.com has a place to compare beams.
    I do not remember who posted it first but I remembered it was fun.
    Topper [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    yep i just want to understand - is "prevx lens in G2" is same as "prevx window in 6p" ?

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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    Yes - 6P and G2 Pyrex windows are the same (they may differ ever so slightly in diameter).

    [Edit: Sorry, the G2 currently uses Lexan not Pyrex]

    Al

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    and what you can say about exploiting battaryes in 6p? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] does this only happends with cr123? was there any issues with surefires rechargible mod battary? i`m a bit scarry after reading the topic about pelican light [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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    Exploding batteries are extremely rare. EXploding batteries in flashlights are even more rare.
    The SureFire 6P features a Patented LockOut TailCap for disabling the flashlight for carry, transport and storage. This should be used to ensure unintentional activation. SureFire's SF123A batteries are made in the USA. Only USA-made 123A batteries should be used.

    SureFire has their B65 NiCd rechargeable battery stick - Using the A14 body extender you can convert your 6P into a rechargeable flashlight. The "KR2 Rechargeable Kit" has everything you need. I am not aware of a B65 or B90 NiCd Battery Stick ever exploding.

    If you use "Lithium Ion" type batteries in your SureFire you are not using batteries recommended by SureFire - You are not using the batteries for which they are designed. In such a case you are acting at your own risk. The dangers of LiIon-type batteries are significantly higher compared to using SF123A batteries.

    There is much written (especially in the Batteries Forum here on CPF) about what combinations of aftermarket battery and charger work with the various SureFires.

    Remember, Lithium Ion and SF123A batteries are powerful. Care should be taken when storing, handling and using them. Keep them dry and do not use them if they are damaged. Do not mix different types, brands, etc of batteries. Do not mix old and new (or used and new) batteries. Ensure that batteries can not short-circuit.

    Al

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    Actually I think the G2 has a Lexan window.. while the 6P has a Pyrex window.. More light gets passed through the 6P's Pyrex window versus the G2's lexan. This could be easily solved by buying a UCL (Ultra Clear Lens) for the G2. It'll slightly increase the overall lumens out the front of the flashlight.

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    Hey Al, don't forget about the plastic (GE lexan) window on the G2 (only model left that uses it)
    They should just make everything pyrex and have a few lexans laying around for replacement of old Bezels

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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    Yeah thanks for correcting me. The G2 currently uses Lexan not Pyrex.

    Actually, the Z32 Shock Isolated Bezel, and the P-Series Nitrolon handgun WeaponLight use Lexan too. They're designed to be user-replaceable for when it gets too scuzzed up after heavy use on a weapon.

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    Here in Estonia [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] i will prefer to convert my flashlight to rechargibne using conversion kit [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] coz battaryes by 5$ is very expensive... 10$ for 1 hour of light.. khe [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    so what shoud i buy? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] which one is better? g2 or 6p

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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    IF you can be 100% certain that the G2 you buy is a new one with a LockOut TailCap then without a doubt I would get the G2 rather than the 6P.

    The Rechargeable kit for the G2 is the KR1.

    However, we may be able to help you find a dealer in Europe from whom you can buy SF123A batteries for less than $5 each.

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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    The G2R looks like this:




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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    [ QUOTE ]
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    IF you can be 100% certain that the G2 you buy is a new one with a LockOut TailCap then without a doubt I would get the G2 rather than the 6P.

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    Just wondering why you say this. I don't have either of these lights, but may be buying my first Surefire soon. It seems to me the 6P is a more modular disign and able to handle the heat of the HOLA a little better. Thanks in advance for your advice.

    Ken

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    Size15`s - I would get the G2 rather than the 6P.

    why? is there any disadvangades in 6p?

    sorry for my bad English [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    The G2 has the advantages of being lower in weight, and the body is less conductive of heat if you grab it in a cold area. It is basically a plastic flashlight with an aluminum insert for electrical conductivity. Not all models can be locked out which is setting the flashlight so that it cannot come on. It has a lexan lens that can scratch and as listed here has less light output.

    The 6P is a anodized aluminum which can show scratches. It is physically heavier, slightly more expensive, and has a pyrex glass lens. It is also knurled on the finish, which is like checkering, for gripping purposes.

    Both run on the exact same lamp assemblies and battery combinations so they are nearly identical in that regard.

    My preference is to the aluminum models as I prefer their feel, especially when screwing on and off the tailcap, bezel, or other components. However, they are not as comfortable to grap when hot or cold.

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    he he.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] thats cool - maybe somebody can make photo of the 6p beam at distance 30-50 meeters? coz in google i just found 1 meeter beam shot... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] maybe if someone have a bit time - he/she can help me posting some pics [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: G2 and P6 long distance beam

    The reasons why I would buy a G2 (with LOTC) over the 6P:

    G2 weighs less.
    G2 is more resiliant to drops (better protects the bulb).
    G2 feels better to grip, especially in the cold/wet/gloved.
    G2 is better at 'hiding' signes of use (dents/scuffs/scratches etc).

    Pyrex window is not a must have in my experience of using this type/size of flashlight. I would rather have a Lexan window that won't shatter or crack. Heat (melting/deforming etc) the Lexan is not an issue in my experience. Perhaps when using the P61 for extended periods in hot still air conditions but that is not typical flashlight-using environment for me.

    For me, I would much rather get an E2e or an M3 rather than a G2 or 6P. The E2e is a significantly more useful flashlight in my experience (because it is one that can be so easily carried clipped inside your pocket). The M3 is a significantly more powerful flashlight. If I'm going to carry an incandescent flashlight without a pocketclip I may as well carry the brightest!

    As for whether the 6P has more compatability than the G2. In reality, they share compatability. There are some body extensions that may not interface correctly with the G2 but the cool stuff like bezels and TailCaps are all interchangeable.

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    he he.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] thats cool - maybe somebody can make photo of the 6p beam at distance 30-50 meeters? coz in google i just found 1 meeter beam shot... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] maybe if someone have a bit time - he/she can help me posting some pics [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    P60 & P61 at 20 meters

    best i can do buddy.

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