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    Hey All!
    I bought an Aladdin kerosene lantern a few years back to use for power outtages. I bought the Aladdin because it uses a mantle, like a Coleman, but requires no pumping and makes absolutely no noise. It's bright (60 watt equivalent), and one fueling lasts about 8-10 hours. The tank, stand, and chimney are made of clear glass, the burner is brass and the whole thing stands about 25" tall. Our house is full of antique furniture and this lamp fits in great; it stays out all the time.
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    They are great lights, and it is amazing the heat they put out, I would guess maybe 300w to 500w, not good in summer heat, but fine in winter. Jut make sure you don't have it to close to the ceiling or you'll end up with a black mark right above it (unless your using ultra pure oil).

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    Got a couple of Aladdins myself about 30 years ago ... they work great. Use the best grade kero you can find. I believe the heat output at a safe burn level is about 4000 BTU

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    The directions say to use only a good grade of kerosene. I'm using "ultra-pure" lamp oil because I can't stand the stink of kerosene. I read somewhere recently that someone using ultra-pure oil had a "puddling" problem around the base of the wick (I guess just below where it burns?). Any of you have any problems with pure or ultra-pure oil? Kerosene is just plain nasty!
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    I used an Aladdin kerosene heater/cooker for a few winter seasons -- I don't remember the smell being too bad as long as the wick was kept trimmed and burning with a blue flame..I bought 5 gallon cans of kerosene from a paint supply store, so I don't think it was the "ultra-pure" stuff..
    Used about a 1 gallon per 24 hours heating a 20 x 20 ft. apx. room, and cooking, while the snow piled up outside the double glass doors..even with a window slighly open, the place was warm..mine says "Made in Iran" - are they still? Where is a good place to get that lamp?

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    A good place to start is :

    http://www.aladdinlamps.com/

    At least if you prefer to shop online.
    Click on Buy and at the bottom they have a Dealers link, searchable by State.

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    The local Ace Hardware carries mantles and chimneys; don't know about whole lamp assemblies. I believe the main parts are made in USA. The chimneys are made in China and my mantles were made in Yugoslavia or Hungary.
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    We use rgular kerosene lamps for light, the ones with just a wick. We do use an Aladin on occasion, when the extra light is needed, but have found that it can get carried away and flare up. Aside from the danger it often ruins the chimney and the mantle. So my caveat, and that of others who use them, don't leave them unattended while lit.
    The Ace in Duluth, MN used to carry the complete lamps. you might ask at your local AH and see if they can order them. The other alternative is the simple oil/kerosene lamp, much less expensive, widely available and safer.

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    I've never used any, but I remember seeing oderless kerosene for sale in the past. May help on the smell problem. TX

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    In my experience, I have two Aladdins and they both have served me well over the past 15 years. I use nothing other than 100% pure Kero based lamp oil. It is sold at the local candle shop which stocks not only candles, but a variety of oil burning lamps. They carry it by the gallon, and I almost always have 2 or three gallons on standby as we lose power up here quite frequently, especially over the last 5 years. At one point, during a 11 inch rainfall week, we had no power for four days and the Aladdins were doing double duty, running at least six to 8 hours an evening, and we even slept with one going, planted firmly on the tile floor, in such a manner that our "klutzy katz" wouldn't knock it over. I have one brass base and the other is aluminum as I didn't trust glass due to possible breakage on our ceramic tiled floors. Never had a problem with soot or fouled chimney/wick at all. Gotta keep that wick trimmed for the best possible, bluest flame. The lamp oil to which I refer is labled "Ultra Glow" and is crystal clear as spring water. I think that the worst you could do to these lamps is use "service station quality" kero. I found that it burns very sooty and unevenly.

    Just love having those Aladdins, ready to serve.

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    Here's da link:

    http://www.aladdinlamps.com/

    Edit: sorry, should have noticed already posted, but no charge for xtra visits ...

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    my father in law has about 8-10 oil lamps on his entertainment center that he collects. he's picked them up at auctions over the years.

    he says they're antiques and he saw the same exact lamps priced around $68 in antique stores.

    don't know what brand they are, but now i will ask.

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    tkl those are probably standard wick type lamps. Older (or new) aladdins are more than that by a large margin.

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    I've had an Aladdin mantle kerosene lamp for over 30 years now; it's part of the household emergency kit, tested once or twice a decade. It's a good reliable tool to have available.

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    A 3D Epieon and a 12-pack of cells is my most-trusted light. I'm afraid in a real outage, though, it would mostly serve to let me light my 60 candlepower Aladdin kerosene mantle lamp.

    Lots of info at http://www.aladdinknights.org

    Great source http://www.oillampman.com . I visited this guy a few weeks ago while on vacation in Maggie Valley, NC. Neat shop, just a garage and the proprietor...with a few sheds with all the lights in it. Not exactly retail paradise, and it's hard to get across what you want since he knows the stuff so well. But, I took my time and got what I was looking for.

    The Aladdin (Genie 3) puts anything else I have to shame. I doubt my 50 W spotlight lights a room any brighter, and the Aladdin will run about 12 hours on the 32oz. fuel it holds.

    2500 BTU of heat is claimed. It's quite radiant, you can feel the IR from a yard away pretty easy.

    Lamplight Farms Lamp Oil is a great fuel for it, and easily available at WalMart for $3 per 96oz. or direcr from http://www.lamplightfarms.com. I wouldn't use their Ultra Pure in a lamp, personally. It's made for an oil candle.

    The only time it stinks even on K1 kero is right after you put it out. I recommend cranking the wick down to a bare minimum of flame before cupping your hand and blowing over the top to put it out. That reduces the evaporation area.

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    Oh, forgot to mention, get a good pair of dark sunglasses or something else (light filter, welding goggle?) you can look at the mantle with. You have to periodically check it for black spots (wick too high) and it kinda hurts to look directly at it.

    Probably a good item for those of us with luxeon flashlights too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    I have several Aladdin lamps, a model 10 and 2 11's. Mostly I've picked these up cheap at flea markets and refinished them by stripping the chrome and polishing the brass.

    They've served me well but as others have mentioned, don't leave them unattended. I once set one on my kitchen table, under a hanging stained chandlier - 15 minutes later there were several cracked glass panels in the fixture - expensive mistake! - they put out a lot of heat.

    They can smell some but that happens mostly during the first minute or so after their lit - after their hot there isn't much, if any order. I usually light them outdoors and let them warm before bringing them in.

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    Yes, gotta watch what's over that chimney. Mine will ignite paper within about 4 inches of the top, and you'd better not have anything inflammable closer than 4 feet or so.

    Not that I'd really recommend seeing it, but the new movie "Hunted" does have a couple of scenes where an Aladdin lamp is clearly visible for 5-10 seconds or so. It's not like my Genie 3, though...shorter chimney, and a font that's more like the 1980s Kadaan lamps. Band of squares about an inch high, tapering above and below that, clear glass.

    The flashlights featured seem to be Stinger HPs. Nice lights, but doesn't keep the FBI guys using them from getting knifed to death.

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    I just ordered 2 more Aladdin lamps. I have been using them for 45 years now, and the only problem I have ever had was with the LOXON glass chimney, I replaced them with the heel-less adaptor/chimney setup and have not had a broken chimney for 10+ years.

    Light output is best with water clear K-1 kerosene, about what you would expect from a 40-60 watt incandesent bulb.


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    Short Circuit,

    where is a good source for Alladin lamps?
    which model do you use?

    Thanks

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    I use https://www.jackscountrystore.com/secure/Catlamp.html as the best source and prices for the Aladdin lamps.

    I have 1 brass table lamp, 1 pink Lincoln drape lamp, 1 Genie III lamp, 2 Genie II lamps.

    If you plan to use the lamps more than once in a blue moon, do not get the Genie II lamp because it does not have a filler port. you have to unscrew the burner to fill it (messy).

    All the new lamps come with the model 23A burner and heel-less chimney now, so the chimney breakage problem with the lox-on has been fixed.

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    I purchased an antique kerosene lamp. I't does not have a wick. I't has a round thing with hole all around it. I think after you put the kerosene in the bottom, you light the round thing.
    I't reminds me of something you'd see in gun-smoke. I think it is an Aladdin Kerosene lamp.

    I am afraid of it as I do not know how to use it.

    I purchased some kerosene lamp oil from Northern lights lamp oil. I got it from www.glassdimensions.com

    Can anyone tell me how to use this lamp correctly without getting hurt?

    Thanks
    Mee


    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk
    Hey All!
    I bought an Aladdin kerosene lantern a few years back to use for power outtages. I bought the Aladdin because it uses a mantle, like a Coleman, but requires no pumping and makes absolutely no noise. It's bright (60 watt equivalent), and one fueling lasts about 8-10 hours. The tank, stand, and chimney are made of clear glass, the burner is brass and the whole thing stands about 25" tall. Our house is full of antique furniture and this lamp fits in great; it stays out all the time.
    Kirk

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    The Aladdin uses a circular wick. It also needs a mantle and a special tall chimney.

    Here are some aladdins:
    http://www.lehmans.com/sdx/H21374.jsp

    Here's the fuel I use:
    http://www.lehmans.com/jump.jsp?item...UCT&itemID=245

    There used to be a great hardware store around here that sold this KleanHeat for $10 a gallon, but the place went out of business. When I run out, I'll need to look around.

    Aladdin recommends either this stuff or k-1 kerosene. I bought some "1-K" kerosene from Walmart and it was too stinky for me.

    The fuel you bought may work. They say that stuff is more viscous and travels up the wick slower. You may need to fill the font above half full.

    Like any lamp with a flame, you need to be careful. Some say candles are more dangerous than kerosene lamps though. The air coming out of the chimney of an Aladdin is considerably hotter than with other kerosene lamps. You need a few feet of clearance above the chimney.

    http://www.aladdinknights.org/lighting.htm

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    Don't all mantle lamps need pressurization?

    Anyway I'd be skeptical of using any type of fuel lamp as a light source these days (inefficient, fire hazard) unless you really need that much light for long periods. As a heat source it may be preferable to alternatives. In a place without electric power I'd just try to plan my light-needing activities around the availability of daylight, just like humans and other species have done since the dawn of life, and use flashlights for when I need to do something in the dark, accepting their limitations and not trying to make imitation daylight.

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    Paulr quote
    [Don't all mantle lamps need pressurization?


    The Aladdin doesn't. It's like a normal kerosene lamp but the burner allows sufficient oxygen so the flame is blue and hot. It also uses a taller chimney that increases the draft.

    I made some temperature measurements. At one foot above the chimney, the air is 340 °F. At 16 inches it's down to 200 °F. At two feet it's 120 °F. Your mileage may vary. They make a diffuser that sits on top of the chimney to break up the flow and cool things down.

    I would not recommend this lamp to most people for emergency use for several reasons. I do however recommend a Dietz or similar kerosene lantern, but I guess that's a subject for another thread.

    Here's my rig.



    Wick raised so you can see it.



    Ignition



    Blue flame



    Chimney on.



    Main engine firing



    Night launch



    LIftoff



    Too bright for camera. Ever try to take a picture of a 40 watt bulb?
    Last edited by eluminator; 09-11-2006 at 07:04 AM.

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    Default Re: How about Aladdin kerosene lanterns?

    Is it possible to throttle these lamps down? Occasionally, I prefer a dimmer yellow'er light for mood lighting purposes.

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    Yup - just adjust the wick height.
    "For a moment, Waterhouse thinks that one wall of the building has collapsed,
    exposing them to the direct light of the sun. But Ghnxh has simply turned on the galvanick lucipher ..."

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    Thanks.

    So there are no issues with smell or smoke or incomplete combustion messing up the wick or mantle?

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    You will get some smell when you first light it (a very little) and when you put it out (a bit more.) The only time you get smoke is if you turn it up too high - this is easy to detect because you also start depositing carbon on the mantle.
    "For a moment, Waterhouse thinks that one wall of the building has collapsed,
    exposing them to the direct light of the sun. But Ghnxh has simply turned on the galvanick lucipher ..."

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    [QUOTED from Utik]Is it possible to throttle these lamps down? Occasionally, I prefer a dimmer yellow'er light for mood lighting purposes.[/QUOTE]

    The glow is somewhat yellow in any case. My camera is apt to get the colors wrong. It is a relatively cheap camera and I am definitely an amateur picture taker. If you notice the colors are all over the place in the sequence of pictures I took.

    I've been told that since they took the thorium out, all mantles are now dimmer and yellower than they used to be.

    Another problem with my camera, and maybe all cameras, is the mantle and indeed the flame of any kerosene lamp is too bright for the camera. The color always comes out white when it should be yellow.

    By playing around with the settings of the camera, I can get the picture to come out with various colors, but the mantle of the Aladdin, and the flame of a kerosene lamp still comes out white.

    This picture has a better color than the bluish color of my last picture.



    I only got the Aladdin to see what it was about. With the mantle and the tall chimney it's rather fragile and I seldom use it. When I do use it, it stays on the kitchen table.


    When the electicity goes off, I usually get out my Dietz lantern. It's much more rugged, and if used with care, can be useful in emergency situations. It's much dimmer than the Aladdin, but it's enough to keep from tripping over the furniture. I think this one is rated around seven candlepower.

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