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Thread: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra ???

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    Default ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra ???

    Has anyone compared the new ARC to the Peak Matterhorn 3 LED ULLTRA?? They are about the same size, weight and cost. Assuming the ARC may be a little tougher (based on my previous old ARC), which will be brighter???? Throw?? OutPut?? Before I put out my $45, I look to the expertise out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra ???

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    Has anyone compared the new ARC to the Peak Matterhorn 3 LED ULLTRA?? They are about the same size, weight and cost. Assuming the ARC may be a little tougher (based on my previous old ARC), which will be brighter???? Throw?? OutPut?? Before I put out my $45, I look to the expertise out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    ... so it OK for others to put out the cash to do the test in order for you to save some bucks. I could see where some would think that's fine. How about YOU purchase one of each, do a couple tests, take some pictures and post your results here for others to learn from.

    I'll be looking forward to your results.

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra ???

    As a relatively newbie, I was at least hoping for someone who can interpret the the different 'measurement' criterea that each manufacturer uses.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon23.gif[/img] Best case, someone had both and has already done some comparisons!!!

    I guess I will have to go buy a light meter of some kind!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/broke.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra ???

    hi MikieHead, check this thread, it has the comparison you are looking for. i hope it helps.

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    As a newbie myself, I like to ask questions before I shell out $$$ too, so I think you're off the mark This-is-Nascar. Sharing info, thats what the forums are about. MikieHead was doing what EVERY newbie does- ask members who've already done it, as I'm sure YOU did when you were a noob!

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra ???

    When I was a noobie and even now, I tend to perform a search before asking a question and even then I don't come off suggesting it's OK for me not to spend the bucks doing research and leaving it up to others.

    At any rate, THE_dAY provide the link, so go at it.

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    THANKS 'THE day'!! That is what I was hoping for to help make a decision. I guess I did not go back FAR enough in my search.

    this is nascar - Your 'New Jersy' comes through loud and clear...

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra ???

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    When I was a noobie and even now, I tend to perform a search before asking a question and even then I don't come off suggesting it's OK for me not to spend the bucks doing research and leaving it up to others.

    At any rate, THE_dAY provide the link, so go at it.

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    The CPF search function often turns up so many matches, it's virtually impossible to find the 1 or 2 posts that you are looking for. Do a search, ANY search, including 'Arc AAA' in it, and you'll likely get a thousand hits.

    The Peak lights have also been written about extensively, and have a huge number of posts, as well.

    I've tried searching out several things recently, only to run into this exact problem. Perhaps I don't know how to narrow down searches as well as you do.

    TIN; your responses were needlessly mean and spiteful, to say the least, IMHO. He was only looking for information, which is why CPF exists, and you flamed him for it. Twice.

    Nice. Very nice.

    I hope when I'm looking for information I can't find, please ignore my post(s).

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

    Please guys, keep it civil! Step back, and take a very deep breath. And then take a few more, it's good for you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] But seriously, please keep your posts kind and respectful.

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    Ok guys,

    Here is a beam shot comparing the new Peak Matterhorn l led Ultra with the Matterhorn 3 led ultra. You might not realize that Peak has been quietly upgrading their lines and the new Matterhorn's seem to be significantly improved over the previous ones. I would expect the new 1 led Ultra to perform very similarly to the new Arc. Probably obvious, but 1 led on the right.


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    I don't have the new Arc but the 3led Peak Ultra is a lot more powerful than the old Arc. On the other hand its battery life is sure to be a lot shorter. You can actually feel the Peak light getting warm (not uncomfortably so) if you let it run for a while. I never noticed that with the Arc.

    You can get 5-7 hours of good light from the Arc, or maybe half that with the Peak.

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    MikieHead said:this is nascar - Your 'New Jersy' comes through loud and clear...

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    That's funny! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

    Another example:
    I did a beamshot comparing the ARC-P AAA vs Peak 1LED AAA Ultra vs Peak N cell "H" Here . [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

    Now THERE'S a helpful response...thanks, Sarius. I always appreciate it when those who have already bought the lights for whatever reasons are kind enough to take the time to take comparison shots for sharing.

    It's just like greasing the wheels of commerce [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/happy14.gif[/img].

    I've had my eye on the Matterhorn for some time, and with each new comparison shot I see, it gets more tempting.

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    Another example:
    I did a beamshot comparing the ARC-P AAA vs Peak 1LED AAA Ultra vs Peak N cell "H" Here
    . [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Hi,

    According to 'Dallas A' from Peak, within the last month they started using a new improved LED. The two I ordered are with it. I think they might have made some improvements to the regulation also, but can't swear to it. Thus, the beamshots are with the new LED, and until someone with the 'old' model Peak gets a new one and does a side by side, it's hard to say, but based on what I've been reading, the improvement is substantial. So, if your Peak is over a month old, those beam shots are probably not going to reflect what will be delivered now.

    I had ordered the flashlight based on the old specs, and when they arrived, sort of felt like I'd ordered a Toyota and was delivered a Lexus. In fact, I couldn't understand (wasn't complaining, mind you!) why what I was seeing was so superior to what the postings and reviews I'd read had led me to expect until I read Peak's posting in the manufacurer's corner.

    Doug at Flashlightreview just got one of the 1 led new Matterhorn's to test, along with some other Peak models, and that review should be very interesting.

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

    welcome to cpf mikihead, goldenlight

    don't mind TIN, he's got the soft touch and subtle too [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    he's a great guy to deal with and makes the nicest charts on cpf...

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

    Sarius,
    Very interesting... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
    Looks like I need to get another one.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    I really like the Peak "U" I have - and the color is also very good. I do wonder what the "snow" color would look like??
    [mine is white]
    Which color did you order??


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    Sarius,
    Very interesting... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
    Looks like I need to get another one.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    I really like the Peak "U" I have - and the color is also very good. I do wonder what the "snow" color would look like??
    [mine is white]
    Which color did you order??
    ]

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    According to Dallas A down in the Manufacturer's Corner, they are only shipping 'Snow' and have discontinued white. If your Peak U is more than a month old, you're in for a major treat. As I mentioned, I bought both the Aluminium HAIII single led U and the Stainless 3 led U, Matterhorns, both in the 'Pocket' design. I can't decide which I like better. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    [ QUOTE ]
    MikieHead said:
    Has anyone compared the new ARC to the Peak Matterhorn 3 LED ULLTRA?? They are about the same size, weight and cost. Assuming the ARC may be a little tougher (based on my previous old ARC), which will be brighter???? Throw?? OutPut?? Before I put out my $45, I look to the expertise out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    ... so it OK for others to put out the cash to do the test in order for you to save some bucks. I could see where some would think that's fine. How about YOU purchase one of each, do a couple tests, take some pictures and post your results here for others to learn from.

    I'll be looking forward to your results.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Lighten up. There's nothing wrong with asking around before making a purchase. It's called smart shopping. How about next time you're looking for a car, buy a few models, see which one you like best, and discard the others.

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    I agree. While I understand what TIN is trying to say, he went about it in an inappropriate manner IMHO. The searches are far from perfect and it is easy to miss something.

    I'll chime in and say that my new 3 led hi power matterhorn is a super little light. While I cant compare it to an arc, as I dont have one, I would say it is very bright for its size and it works very well for me

    Dan

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

    I have owned a couple Arc AAA flashlights (both standard and LE) and the Peak 3 LED, and single LED lights. I prefer the Arc for it's ergonomics. This might sound odd since Peak made the flashlights for Arc back in the day. I also prefer the Arc AAA beam over the Peak Beam.

    Those who have bought more recently - has much changed with either the Peak or Arc AAA flashlights? I will find out soon about the Arc because I'm ordering one.

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    The new Arc (version 4) premium uses this fancy Nichia 500CS led that's almost 2x brighter than the old version. A few cpf'ers have them now, but they're on backorder so the rest of us can't buy them for a while.

    The posts above were the first I've heard that the Peaks have changed in the past month. My 3-led Ultra is maybe 3 months old and it's pretty bright. I have a couple earlier Peaks and they're much less bright. I wonder how easy it is to mod these things.

    I begin to feel that upgradeable leds is an important feature in any flashlight this expensive.

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

    I was reading the LED Museum review on the Matterhorn Ultra with one snow LED with interest. According to the site, here are the numbers:
    Arc AAA Premium Revision 4 48,800 mcd
    Peak Matterhorn Ultra (1 LED) 44,800 mcd

    I have the first generation Matterhorn HO 3 LED version and love the beam color (I also had an Arc AAA-P) The LED Museum should be posting battery runtime charts in the next few days on the Peak so we can see the regulation ability and battery life. My hope is the regulation mimics the decent regulation of the Arc AAA so I can feed a NiMH rechargable in a Matterhorn 3 LED Ultra.
    Since moving from N TX to south-central Turkey, it would be nice to have a keychain light with more fire power. The 3 LED version is nice in that if one LED fails, I still have two more to get me through.

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    Default Re: ARC P AAA vs. PEAK Matterhorn AAA 3LED Ultra

    I spoke to Peak today. All their stock is the current NEW LEDs. I think the 3 LED Ultra has got to blow away the ARC-P in terms of total output. Not sure what the regulation or runtime will be like, but 3 LEDs putting out 44,800 mcd each (even with some loss due to the qty) should be pretty impressive. I may have to blow the budget so I can get one!!

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    The 3-led Peak works fine on nimh. Nimh has a very flat discharge curve. I haven't measured the runtime but wouldn't expect a whole lot--that's not what the 3-led version is for.

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