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    Unhappy looting in New Orleans.

    I just read the news that new Orleans residents are looting because they are desperate. This is URL link

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20050...atrina_looting

    It is sad to hear so many people are poor and desperate for essential items or anything they can grab.
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    no i think theey looot because there thiefs if its food im ok with that but i see em with all kinda non food or non emergy stuff.it sickens mei know i sound mean but it botheres me people take advage of such a bad disater .like i said im ok if they take enough food to feed there family but not other stuff
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    News report I heard said the first thing people took was liquor...

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    Louisana Governor says all of New Orleans must be evacuated!
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    Interesting article here at the Washington Post.

    Especially considering the gov just gave the nat'l guard permission to use "extreme measures" to bring the looting to a halt.
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    Default Re: looting in New Orleans.

    Quote Originally Posted by picard
    I just read the news that new Orleans residents are looting because they are desperate. This is URL link

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20050...atrina_looting

    It is sad to hear so many people are poor and desperate for essential items or anything they can grab.
    Who are you kidding? Look at the people who are performing these acts. They're not desperate, they're thiefs, who go out of their way to find any excuse to steal, rob, pifler, rape, etc. They are a bunch of low life scums and it's unfortuneate that the hurricane didn't do them in......... YET.
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    "Clothing and Jewlrey" I do not think the folks were starving they were stealing. I understand not wanting your family to starve. Had they hit a food store and left little IOU's for everything well I would be inclined to not shoot.
    That is not what is going on in the least.
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    Looters ain't worth a drop of my sweat. Sorry SOBs need shot. Sorry but that is the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playboyjoeshmoe2
    Looters ain't worth a drop of my sweat. Sorry SOBs need shot. Sorry but that is the way it is.
    Actually that's the way it used to be. Looters used to be shot on sight.
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    Maybe it's a little unfair to group thousands of people together as having one motivation and one level of character.

    The man toting the board with food on top of his head, wading his way home through filth may have just wanted to provide sustenance for his family.

    Winn Dixie is a grocery store.

    Visit this scenario for a moment please. You live in Mississippi near the Mississippi River. Imagine if you will, and this may be difficult if not impossible, that you are truly poor. You've been without much of anything all of your life. Your family’s history is one that has experienced nothing other than being poor.

    The promise of a better economy is announced multiple times. Finally beautiful hotel and boat casinos show up in your area. Lots of money is changing hands. You can't even get a job in one of them. You see no improvement in your personal economy. Then your uninsured home is trashed by a storm. You have no food. You have little water. You see a quarter slot machine lying in the muck. Are you not going to bust that thing open? Are you not going to at least be tempted? Biloxi and Gulfport look as was described, like a tsunami hit them. If you are a left in that hot, stinking debris field to fend the best way possible, come across a wrecked and abandoned soft-drink truck, would you take something to drink? At that point is there a great difference between the quarters and the 7-ups?

    Back to New Orleans. I think the people stealing jewelry and Nike tennis shoes in NOLA might deserve some harsh treatment. Looting in Louisiana carries a mandatory 3 years and up to 15 years prison sentence. Angola is not a happy place to be. Blow away a looter? If it were my jewelry store, I lived above it and couldn't get an invalid family member evacuated, well...more on that later.

    I don't think that the old dude with the food should be impeded.

    A news report stated that a give-away was announced for a local Wal-Mart. The police were there to control the crowd but could not. Some folks took food. Others took everything else. It was reported that some cops were seen taking non-essentials. The store was gutted. In another incident an officer was shot in the head while police confronted some looters. It was reported that he is expected to recover.

    It is bedlam and the streets are filled with many types of people.

    Should law enforcement blow away someone looting a store? That would be a difficult call for me to make while I and mine sit in comfort with plenty to eat and cold bottled water to drink. A looter breaking into my home while I was there would be a different story and require not much of a decision tree.

    Meanwhile the flooding has increased this evening. My and maybe your beloved New Orleans is being turned into a sump basin. Some people are sustaining injury. Some people are dying. Pain, agony and personal devastation are rising.

    I understand anger at wrongdoing but, in my opinion, labeling all the looters as any one thing isn't intellectually sound. Moreover, it just doesn't seem to be a significantly important mental process right now. No offence intended.

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    I was really disapointed when I heard that some in law inforcement was looting. I know most wouldn't do that but the fact that there was one that did kind of hurt my prespective on things.
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    Law enforcement's priorities are locating and rescuing stranded victims right now. Controlling looting is a distant third on the priority list right now. It's unfortunate that it's going on, but nearly inevitable.
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    I would be more understanding if the hurricane hit 2 weeks ago and everything was still in the toilet- but its only been 1 day.

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    icebreak i agree food is ok but other then food thats awefull
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    Except for the folks looting diapers. Having a small child, I'd loot diapers too.

    The most disturbing thing about those articles are the quotes from people that seem to think that they are entitled to steal whatever they want for being somehow oppressed by the walgreens on the corner or something.
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    Looting foodstuffs that are going to spoil is one thing..survival..

    anything else is just looting..

    shoot on sight..
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    Many of the ones I've seen on the news sources appear to be extremely well-fed, instead of "shoot on sight", it's gonna have to be "harpoon on sight".

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    Foraging, stealing, looting are all some things I would do to ensure the survival of my family if necessary. I will tolerate that behavior in others in the same circumstances.

    A CD player or vacuum cleaner isn't in that category.

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    on the news some losers was shooting rtescue chopers i heard .
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    This crap is tough.

    I'm just close enough to see the activity, but not have to try and defend my home (yet).

    There are people here that are trying to steal stuff from your truck bed while you are at red lights and stop signs.

    Tomorrow I leave armed.
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    hope all goes good turbo
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    turbodog,

    You be carefull out there.
    I sure hope you and your family stay safe.

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    Turbo, I think you've helped put things in perspective. Press on but try to stay safe. Good luck.

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    ok, cpf is officially broken

    my good long reply just disappeared

    crap!
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    Perspective.....


    Did I mention that I am in Jackson, MS? Over 175 miles away from NOLA?

    Things are tough all over.

    97% of metro area has no power. Large portions have no water.

    Population has doubled since storm due to refugees. Wow.... how often do you refer to American INSIDE the continental US as refugees?

    NOLA is in tough shape because the rest of us are wiped out. There is no infrastructure. MS has lost between 40 and 80% of our power lines. That's feeder lines/mains/taps/branches/drops. Everything. Power companies are looking at a total rewire of most of the state.

    There are gas leaks from tree uprooting gas lines as they toppled over.

    I met some family today that had been so shutoff that they did not even know what had happened. They though it was just some bad weather. After 4 days they finally made their way out of their community to find total chaos.




    On a refreshing note, it's always nice to hear of good stuff.


    While working today at a customer's place (let's call him John) I learned that he was helping out a community in south MS that had been hit hard.

    John arranged for a 6x12 enclosed trailer to be packed full of supplies for a community where an employee lives. He called the employee today and told him:
    1. don't worry about coming in, you're getting paid
    2. a trailer is on the way and it contains:
    canned food
    dry food
    propane tanks
    125 gallons of gas
    propane stove
    work gloves
    drinking water
    2-3 generators
    lights
    extension cords
    bedding
    many first aid kits
    tarps
    ropes
    $2000 in small bills
    batteries
    flashlights

    All this is out of John's pocket.

    He is also trying to arrange weekly trips for more supplies.
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    Great story, Turbo. If you get a chance, pass on our respect and admiration. That's the spirit that will see all of us Americans through this and find us stronger and better in the future.

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    Better yet, pass it on to the news media. I'm tired of all the negative stories that they love to air. It would be nice to see something positive for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtr1962
    Better yet, pass it on to the news media. I'm tired of all the negative stories that they love to air. It would be nice to see something positive for a change.
    Ditto!
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    All of the media helicopters that are " videotaping" from the sky, should be dropping supplies for those that are stranded.
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    The governer of Louisanna is talking about shooting looters on sight almost. The National Guard has their M16's "locked and loaded" and are ready to shoot, and they will. Paraphrased, I don't remember the exact quote from today's paper. About 500 Guardsmen from Washington are volunteering to go and help out one way or another. Half of those are in my brigade and just got back 6 months ago from the desert. Oregon also has lots of volunteers wanting to help (another state that just got back). I think it's mostly MP's, transportation, medics, construction engineers, support type folks.

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