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    Default mag charger or ultra stinger?

    hello,

    my name is eddie and im brand new to this message board. I was pretty astonished when i came onto this board and realized that i was a "flashaholic" still in the closet. lol

    I think it started with boy scouts. i was always the kid with the best flashlights.

    then i became an EMT and we all know emergency services needs a good light

    then i got my pilots license and had some fun playing with red lenses.

    now, my most recent job (temporary thing, i hope) is delivering pizza, and i need to find addreses's.. lol

    well, ive had a number of lights over the years, most of them being maglites..

    everything from the aaa solitare to the 6 d

    my more recent aquisitions include a sure fire 6p, and two g2's

    ive also had a limited experiance with streamlight. i had a 3 a twin task that "got lost on the parkway" and a stylus 3 aaaa penlight that works great.

    im thinking about a bigger rechargable light similar in size to a 3d.

    ive pretty much narrowed it down to a mag charger or an ultra stinger.

    ive read up breifly on the inefficency of the candle power system when comparing two different lights.

    i see that mag has updated their website and has a 40,000 cp/195 lumens rating on their bulb.

    streamlight doesnt list their lumens, but says 75,000 cp

    i know both of these companies produce quality products so im kinda at a loss as to which is better, i need the best all around.. ie;can take a beating, still shine brightly

    what are your opionions on the two?

    thanks!

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    Hello Eddie,

    Welcome to CPF.

    Both of those lights should work well for what you are doing. Another light to consider is the TigerLight.

    There is an option to improve the MagCharger by a simple lamp change. You loose some run time, but it ends up brighter.

    Good luck.

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    You can pick either one and be fine. I have an Ultrastinger. Plenty of light, well made, backed by a major manufacturer. Nothing not to like. So just close your eyes and pick one.


    Top to bottom: Ultrastinger, Stinger, Polystinger, and Baby Strion.

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    Both are quality lights, however, I prefer the US due to it's smaller size.

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    The SL Stingers and Strion are excellent lights, as is the Mag charger, however, the Stingers (XL and Strion excepted) don't have an easy to find switch. In a panic situation or with gloves it is often difficult to find the switch, which is (IMHO) a real draw back. The Strion is very good for the money and being small is easily carried. Some CPF'rs have described the Strion in less favourable terms but in general it seems fairly popular.
    The Mag Charger is really great but is rather too heavy and bulky to be carried regularly. If this doesn't bother you then it is IMHO probably the better deal.

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    I have both lights. Both are durable as they have each hit the ground plenty.
    If you are needing them for looking at addresses while delivering pizza, I would go with the Ultra Stinger as it may be a little easier to operate while you are driving. I've used both for getting a house number and the Magcharger is heavier and more of a handful.

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    like already said: also do a search for the tigerlight. It perfectly fits your demands.
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    There is another choice if you want light output. Get a Stinger Hp and put one of Fivemegas 168 lion conversions. It is as long as a UltraStinger but BLows it away with brighness. I have all of the above mentioned lights. The Five mega conversion is my favorite.

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    hey, thanks for the replys!

    unfortunatley, as im also a licensed emt, no personal protection devices can be carried, so the peper spray option on the tigerlight is out :-(

    they dont list their specs on the bulb on their site, thats pretty hawt tho.. everytime ive been pulled over, i didnt realize that i might have had a peper spray canister in my face.. haha.

    i definatley want something brighter then the 6p/g2 and with a drop in charger, so i guess ill just search around for the best deals on either the mag or the us.


    oh, ive done a search on fivemega lion conversion, but didnt see any results. do you have a link for that?

    thanks

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    the tigerlight is also avaiable without pepperspray as tigerlight fbop (federal bureau of prison) and therefore the shoertest light discussed here.
    It's main positive features are a nimh battery instead of nica, an optional intelligent charger, shock protected bulb...

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    don't forget about elekrolumens. I love mine and they have boocou run time.

    I have an ultra stinger. after a couple of years the battery is toast. seems like I am always recharging. heck of a wide light though.

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    I'm partial to the magcharger. With a $5.00 bulb the output will blow away the others you mentioned at the sacrifice of run time. But it is probably bigger than what you need to have to read addresses. Any you mentioned would be fine. Uou can get a adaptor and battery for your 6P and use that as a rechargeable. But I'm partial to Surefire too. It seems like you just want to buy a new flashlight though. Nothing wrong with that. Buy whatever you think looks the best. Your choice will work.

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    ahha.. yeah.. i do want a new flashlight..

    i did see the rechargeable pack for the 6p, but i didnt think it was a "drop-in" cradle. which could get kinda annoying.

    the pizza thing is temporary i hope.. so the main purpose of the light would be using it on EMS calls. I have some pretty big pockets on my jumpsuit.. so i dont know if the 3d size would be all that much of a problem.

    also in a last case scenario, i might need a personality adjuster.

    of course, the 6p would be in another pocket for back up. i use that on calls as it tends to get bumped around alittle more then the g2 i currently use for finding addresses(which is stored nicely in my sunvisor, and fits into a back pocket if i need to walk in an apartment complex or something. . i used to have the p61 bulb, but the run time was really low, and the ONE time i loaned it to a co-worker, it came back with a bulb that was like.. disintegrated. he said he was flashing the light, and heard a pop. so idk if this is could be a warrenty or not. i trust the person, so i really dont think he abused the light.

    the other yellow g2 is in my emergency medical kit in my trunk, and of course a trusty 3d mag on the side of my seat for the emgency personality tool and also, ive used it before to change tires. that mag is pretty special to me cuz it was one that was donated to the emergency personal at the WTC. I figured that it would be a better tribute to use it then to keep it in the package, because it looks just like any other mag and i doubt i could prove it was a wtc flashlight.

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    Good point on the 6P rechargeable setup and lack of drop in charger. It can get annoying. I run mine usually with th P61 bulb and that is used up in 20 min. But the swap is quick. I need it on my belt at all times and couldn't have it in a drop in charger anyway. A stinger wouldn't work so I stay with my trusty SF.

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    If you do get a MC, You can put a 1160 bulb in it for $8 and it will be 10 times brighter than those other toys. Run time will be dimminished but if you are looking for far away address plates... might be useful to have 800 lumen light.
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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    So, how many lumens the Ultra Stinger put out???

    That 75.000 candlepowers could be because it have a bigger reflector that concentrate the light, but here we talk lumens all the time in comparison with others lights and I want to know HOW MANY LUMENS IT HAVE.

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    Question Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaTesla
    If you do get a MC, You can put a 1160 bulb in it for $8 and it will be 10 times brighter than those other toys. Run time will be dimminished but if you are looking for far away address plates... might be useful to have 800 lumen light.

    Is there a similar WA bulb upgrade for the Ultrastinger? If they make a plugin 6V 20W bulb it should be pretty impressive.

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    You can put an 1160 in an ultra stinger too. An 1160 puts out about 550
    lumens not 800. On the ultra stinger I hear that it melts the lense in about 10 minutes of continuos usage.

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    Quote Originally Posted by juancho
    So, how many lumens the Ultra Stinger put out???

    That 75.000 candlepowers could be because it have a bigger reflector that concentrate the light, but here we talk lumens all the time in comparison with others lights and I want to know HOW MANY LUMENS IT HAVE.
    The Streamlight '05 catalogue says 295 lumens, but that figure might be a bit optimistic... ;-) It's probably more like ~200 lumens.
    As I said before, I never repeat myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oklalawman
    You can put an 1160 in an ultra stinger too. An 1160 puts out about 550
    lumens not 800. On the ultra stinger I hear that it melts the lense in about 10 minutes of continuos usage.
    About the lense of the US, is there any glass lense avaiable to replace the stock one?

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    If the UltraStinger is putting out 295 lumens, then the reflector is not very efficient at all. Maybe the plastic lens is mildly tinted too. The MagCharger that is listed at 175 lumens throws further. Maybe a tighter beam, but still that 295 claim seems just a little high to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsolderjoint
    hey, thanks for the replys!

    unfortunatley, as im also a licensed emt, no personal protection devices can be carried, so the peper spray option on the tigerlight is out :-(

    thanks
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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    Where can a flashaholica get one of these 1160s?

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    Here, among other places. If they offer "potted" and "bi-pin" flavors, get the "bi-pin".

    best regards

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    Thanks, I may try this in my Ultra

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    Exclamation Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    Quote Originally Posted by hburner
    Where can a flashaholica get one of these 1160s?
    Yes, you can put an 1160 or even an 1111 lamp in the Ultrastinger.

    Massive light output. Problem is, the plastic lens will soften and melt within minutes. Guaranteed from personal experience.

    I just spent about $25 for a new lens reflector bezel assembly.

    I a trying to work on a reliable way to remove the plastic lens and mount a 51mm glass lens in its place. A work in progress.

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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    If you think you can hack the size and weight, a M*gcharger with an 1160 is awesome!!!

    It comes with a glass lense, and you could carry the stock bulb as a backup easily!
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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    hi-i live in australia and i was looking at getting a mag charger and a WA1160 bulb. (this review is also quite postive http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev...magcharger.htm)

    any recommendations on where to get this torch from ?
    (as the local shops here are waaayy too expensive)
    (eg http://www.wellingtonsurplus.com.au/...t=RECHARGEABLE $275 AUD , which is about $206 USD)
    the only this is the usa sellers have 110V chargers, i should be able to find an equivalent transformer here is australia ? the transformer is just a trickle charger ?

    i was looking at brightguy :
    http://www.brightguy.com/detail.php?Sku=MAGRX1019
    $89 + postage (but this has the usa version charger, and the normal globe only)

    http://www.light-edge.com/proddetail...&prod=MLRX1019
    $90 + postage (and they sell the WA1160 globe)

    http://www.lighthound.com/sales/magl...lashlights.php
    $99.99+$20 shipping

    i want a bright rechargeable torch with a good throw that is easy to use at night while wlaking the dog, fishing, etc

    i also have some cheap spotlights ('500,00cp'), cheap chinese 2xcr123, princeton tec surge, plus other various torches and lasers

    i also have a 4xc cell maglite, i was wondering if there are any mods that people recommend ?
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    Default Re: mag charger or ultra stinger?

    Quote Originally Posted by NotASolder
    Wow, so in order to save lives, you have to give up the right to protect yours




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    sorry, i dont check much on this forum.. but yeah.. they dont allow like guns/knifes/pepper spray

    basically, it comes down to training. They train to protect yourself first, if its a bad situation, dont even get out of the ambulance, drive to a safe place and wait for cops.

    And comon sense stuff like never let yourself get blocked in, keep your escape route open.. etc. and theres always that big d sized oxygen tank or a giant flashlight available :-p

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