I visited the Arc facility!

lmitch · #1 06-26-2003, 09:01 PM

I had a nice visit with Peter Gransee on Wednesday. I live in Arizona near his facility, and after my email request, he invited me over for a tour. I had a great time. Peter was kind enough to give me about ninety minutes of his valuable time to show me around and let me try out various lights against his products. I am now the proud owner of a LSH-P, even though I was planning on waiting for the LS-4. The light is marvelous, and since it IS a long time until October, there really is justification for both lights!

I can tell you this. Peter is serious about the quality he puts in his lights. The extra steps they take to make sure the lights don’t fail really are evident in his products. I was afraid for a minute during one demonstration that the Arc Ls he was throwing down on the ground was going to bounce through the window in his office! Both the window and the Arc are fine.

I love my new Arc!

Lar

dtsoll · #2 06-26-2003, 09:05 PM

I wishes I lived in Arizona [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] You guys got all the neat stuff! Congrats on your new Premium, those lights do ROCK! Doug [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Penguin · #3 06-26-2003, 09:07 PM

I want to live in Arizona too! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Tomas · #4 06-26-2003, 09:14 PM

Uh, I spent ten days in Tucson in August - I'll pass. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

(Remember, I come from waterworld: Seattle area.)

CM · #5 06-29-2003, 05:24 PM

Ya, I've crashed Peter's facility on numerous ocassions. I always felt welcome over there. He's a first class individual no doubt. Is he still doing the bouncing Arc LS trick? That light has taken some serious abuse from him [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

CM

Gransee · #6 06-29-2003, 07:41 PM

I forgot to tell you guys what happened when the military guys came by last week. I did my whole throw the light (waldo) on the floor trick. The light bounced up into the air, soared over my desk and past both guys (kinda amazing actually). The second guy caught it out of the air (fast reflexes). He clicked the light on and it what fine. They had brought one of their L1s with them to compare with the LSH and I suggested they let me toss it too. But, they wouldn't let me. They said they didn't think the L1 would survive.

One time I did my toss trick at 2003 SS and the light didn't work when I picked it up. It wasn't waldo btw. There were some german guys watching. They laughed and walked away. I checked the light and found the retaining nut was loose. I think in the rush to get ready for the show the light was never glued. Henry tightened the nut back up and the light worked fine.

Peter

logicnerd411 · #7 06-29-2003, 07:49 PM

What's this bouncing light thing? Waldo? An Arc LS bouncing?
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Dan

PaulW · #8 06-29-2003, 07:54 PM

Peter,

You named your bouncing light after me? I'm honored. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Paul

lmitch · #9 06-29-2003, 08:22 PM

Dan,
It is when Peter throws his Arc Ls on the floor so hard it bounces up and he catches it, or attempts to catch it. Pretty good demo!

Lar

roguesw · #10 06-29-2003, 08:24 PM

bouncing light trick, i hazard a guess, u throw the ls as hard as possible onto the ground and it bounces back up? and shows the reliability of the ARC as it will survive this and keep on working
Des

FalconFX · #11 06-30-2003, 03:37 AM

Now why would it NOT surprise me to see something like Peter pullin' out a .45 and testing the bullet-proof qualities of an Arc...
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logicnerd411 · #12 06-30-2003, 06:13 AM

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lmitch said:
Dan,
It is when Peter throws his Arc Ls on the floor so hard it bounces up and he catches it, or attempts to catch it. Pretty good demo!

Lar

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Whoa. That light must have been under much stress [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smoker5.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif[/img]

Dan

KenB · #13 06-30-2003, 07:47 AM

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Gransee said:
I forgot to tell you guys what happened when the military guys came by last week. I did my whole throw the light (waldo) on the floor trick....

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Jeese, I guess it didn`t occur to you they only wanted to buy a light [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/twak.gif[/img] I wish you would stop trying to convince everyone it has merit as a ball [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif[/img]

chamenos · #14 06-30-2003, 07:56 AM

L1 as in pelican L1 or surefire L1? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

btw peter, do you have any pics of the light you bounce on the floor?

BigMac · #15 06-30-2003, 08:31 AM

All I have to say is: cool. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Gransee · #16 06-30-2003, 08:40 AM

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chamenos said:
L1 as in pelican L1 or surefire L1? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

btw peter, do you have any pics of the light you bounce on the floor?

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SF L1.

Yes. In fact, it is the most photographed LS around. That is why I call it waldo because it appears in pictures throughout the CPF. Hint: It has a special inscription.

Peter

logicnerd411 · #17 06-30-2003, 08:53 AM

OOOOHHHH. That one... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif[/img]

Dan

FalconFX · #18 06-30-2003, 09:20 AM

Oh... The one from the "heart"... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]

chamenos · #19 06-30-2003, 09:54 AM

i see [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] it doesn't look all that banged up though.....pretty new in fact. makes me want to play football with mine just for the heck of it! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Gransee · #20 06-30-2003, 09:57 AM

Well, I am careful how I toss it. Most of my tests are done on the carpet which protects the HA. It mostly then shows the durability of the light to high G forces and some shock. These tests would give an incandescent fits which makes for an effective demo.

Peter

chamenos · #21 06-30-2003, 10:04 AM

ok...i had the impression you were bouncing your arc off solid concrete [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/twak.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] i just threw mine on the carpet as hard as i could and its doing fine (it bounced up to waist height) [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

logicnerd411 · #22 06-30-2003, 10:13 AM

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chamenos said:
ok...i had the impression you were bouncing your arc off solid concrete [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/twak.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] i just threw mine on the carpet as hard as i could and its doing fine (it bounced up to waist height) [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I had the same impression.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohgeez.gif[/img] now I'm going to try it... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Dan

chamenos · #23 06-30-2003, 10:18 AM

lol [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] try not to let it land clickie or bezel first though...i'm not sure the switch or battery is as tough as the rest of the light [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] besides i have dropped it on its switch before, and the rubber boot got a little gouged so i had to change it in case it tore.

peter, i'm no modder so forgive me if this sounds stupid but is the led's position relative to the optics fixed? would it be possible to jar the led out of focus due to excessive Gs?

BigMac · #24 06-30-2003, 10:20 AM

Ok, everyone chuck your ARC's at the floor on three!

1...

2...

3 - [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hahaha.gif[/img]

KenB · #25 06-30-2003, 10:41 AM

Bet Gransees feeling a little ill about now [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] I wonder if now might be a good time to dissuss the limits of the warranty. LOL [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sick.gif[/img]

Gransee · #26 06-30-2003, 10:56 AM

Right, you break it you bought it. I am a professional light tosser, don't try this at home.

And yes, the LED is fixed in relationship to the optics which helps the whole setup resist the G's. I am sure if you try hard enough, you can break it. It is tougher than most though.

Peter

Tomas · #27 06-30-2003, 07:18 PM

*thud*
Now see what *thud* you started, Peter? You *thud* have all these flash*thud*light crazies throwing these *thud* very expensive lights at *thud* everything in site, and *clunk* making all kinds *thud* of racket. Next *thwack* thing you know some*thud*one will try that with *thump* somebody *thud* else's light and it *thud* will quit work*thud*ing.

*thud* [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohgeez.gif[/img]

chamenos · #28 07-01-2003, 10:33 AM

peter: a few years back i decided to test the limits of the shock resistance of my G-shock, and i managed to crack the LCD [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] my arc's doing fine though, but i'll refrain from tossing it unnecessarily [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Brocken · #29 07-04-2003, 10:13 AM

Peter:
lets see a picture of that beat up Arc, I would never subject anyone of my lights to that test even if they were meant to survive.

thanks for making awsome lights.

dave

Gransee · #30 07-05-2003, 12:02 AM

The light I do the demo with is called "waldo". It is the most photographed Arc-LS around. There are probally a dozen pictures in the Arc forum alone of this particular light.

Peter