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05-04-2007, 01:01 AM
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Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Here you have It 
I just ordered 2 New X1's by Express mail. Hopefully they'll be here by Saturday.
For all who ordered earlier, Tell us how you like It...AND please take a shot of the LED.
Thanks
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05-04-2007, 01:15 AM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
I expect mine some time next week.
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05-04-2007, 11:01 AM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Ive got one I use on my keychain. Its a great little light. The beam has alot of side spill but also has a very bright center with no black spot what so ever. I havent had a chance to test the throw in the beam yet. (bad flashoholic, I know  )The beam does have a slight blue tint to it. Sorry, cant post a picture as I wont be home a few days and my camera is at home.
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05-04-2007, 02:24 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
When do they get them at target?
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05-04-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
I got an X1 at Target today. I do not like the beam very much. I was expecting more out of a 2.0 watt light I guess. It has about half the luminescence and a less defined spot as my RiverRock 1.0 watt/42 lumens light. I think I will have to take it back.
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05-04-2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
That looks a lot like my Gen 2 beam, are you sure that you got the Gen3 version?
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I got an X1 at Target today. I do not like the beam very much. I was expecting more out of a 2.0 watt light I guess. It has about half the luminescence and a less defined spot as my RiverRock 1.0 watt/42 lumens light. I think I will have to take it back.
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05-04-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
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That looks a lot like my Gen 2 beam, are you sure that you got the Gen3 version?
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How do I tell if it is a Gen3? The package has all the same specs as they have listed for the X1 at the Inova site.
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05-04-2007, 03:53 PM
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How do I tell if it is a Gen3?
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That package looks right for Gen3. Any chance you can get a pic of the LED itself. Seems to be a mystery around here what they're using...
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05-04-2007, 03:57 PM
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That package looks right for Gen3. Any chance you can get a pic of the LED itself. Seems to be a mystery around here what they're using...
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How do I get a picture of the LED? Just shoot close-up through the lens?
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05-04-2007, 04:09 PM
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How do I get a picture of the LED? Just shoot close-up through the lens?
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That's it. Try to get the LED in focus. If your camera can macro focus you should do OK. There are people here (not me) who can tell the LED by looking at it. Maybe you've got a bum X1?
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05-04-2007, 04:11 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
What LEDs are they supposed to have in em now?
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05-04-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Here it is. This is about as good as shot as I could get.
 
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05-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Thanks for your Help.
But, I must Say  Is that?
Never seen a LED like that.
Im Intrigued
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05-04-2007, 04:40 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Looks just like the LED shown over in cratz2's review of the Inova Bolt. He said the Bolt had the exact same emitter as the Dorcy 4 AAA light, and he took pictures of that LED. It was then remarked that it was the new Rigel LED. And MattK said that the new X1 and the Bolt series use the same LED, even though he was (bound by solemn oaths  ) not to disclose what it was called.
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05-04-2007, 04:51 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Ok its Gen3  At least they upgraded the packaging, probably going to try one anyway to replace may EDC Gen2. Thanks
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How do I tell if it is a Gen3? The package has all the same specs as they have listed for the X1 at the Inova site.
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05-04-2007, 04:53 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Can anyone take a comparison beamshot between the 2nd gen. X1 and the 3rd gen. X1? I'd like to see if it puts out enough light to warrent the decrease in runtime.
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05-04-2007, 04:57 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
That's a Gen3 light. The emitter is made by LumiLED's that's all I can say. 
Read the package - it says 2.0W LEd - not that it's RUNNING at 2W - that's just marketing blap. I haven't tested but I'd bet .5W is more accurate.
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05-04-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
That looks like a Luxeon Rebel to me !
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05-04-2007, 05:18 PM
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That looks like a Luxeon Rebel to me !
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Thats what I was gonna say! 
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05-04-2007, 05:31 PM
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That looks like a Luxeon Rebel to me !
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Mee too. 
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05-04-2007, 06:28 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Well, all I can say is it's about half as bright as my 1 watt RiverRock and I'm really not happy with it. I'm pretty sure it's going back. Maybe I was just expecting too much... 
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05-04-2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Makes sense - the RR is a LuX1 running at 1W, this LED is being driven at considerably less current so it's considerably less bright. It's also 1/2 the size running on only 1 battery...
Oh - it's not a Rebel .
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05-04-2007, 07:18 PM
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Makes sense - the RR is a LuX1 running at 1W, this LED is being driven at considerably less current so it's considerably less bright. It's also 1/2 the size running on only 1 battery...
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I don't understand. The RiverRock and the X1 are the same size and both run off one AA battery. The RiverRock is only 1 watt and the X1 is supposed to be 2 watts but is only half as bright as the RiverRock. Am I missing something, or am I as my avatar says...Just Unenlightened? Did I maybe just get a dud X1?
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05-04-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Rob,
I noticed a 3 watt Element pictured in your imageshack photos. Is the River Rock brighter than the Element? Do you ever feel that the Element is overheating?
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05-04-2007, 07:29 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Oh sorry - there is also a RR 1W 2x AA - I just assumed that's what you had.
Watts are basically meaningless. Wattage is a measure of power consumption and not output and the word has become marketing, not engineering to the point where it is utterly meaningless. The X1 might have an LED capacble of 2W but I assure you it's not running at anything like 2W. Again, my guess is that it's .5W.
The X1 isn't made to be the brightest, never has been. It's always been a fairly long running ultra high quality secondary light. If you're looking for 1x AA and BRIGHT buy a LumaPower or a Fenix.
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05-04-2007, 07:38 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
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Rob,
I noticed a 3 watt Element pictured in your imageshack photos. Is the River Rock brighter than the Element? Do you ever feel that the Element is overheating?
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Actually the Element is about twice as bright as the RiverRock. The Element is 3 watt light rated at 80 lumens, whereas the RiverRock is only 42 lumens. The Element also runs on 3 AAA's, and no, I have never noticed it overheating.
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05-04-2007, 08:03 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
From the looks of it - barely twice as bright with EIGHTY % less RUNTIME.
What gives, Inova???
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05-04-2007, 08:05 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
They were better off using an underdriven cree...that LED is just... 
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05-04-2007, 08:11 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
Now I feel pretty stupid buying two of the New X1's.
At least they're brighter than the 5mm RIGHT?? 
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05-04-2007, 09:12 PM
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Re: Inova X1 (3rd Gen) First Impressions
It uses one of these LEDs.
I haven't seen the new X1s yet.
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