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02-03-2008, 03:35 AM
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SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
It's gonna be a great year for Surefire; tons of exciting, well conceived products. Here's a quick report.
Surefire, Cree, SSC threw a great party and I think it's fair to say everyone had a lot of fun and left with some fantastic gifts. My thanks to all of those companies, to our host PK, to MrTedBear, Al and all of the community members who helped to make it happen. For those who were at the CPF party it was fantastic to meet you all!
To the toys!
E1B - 1 CR123A backup light, 2 stage fwd clicky, 80L/5L, $110, available for order now.
6PD, Z2, C2, G2Z etc will all be available ~April as 6PDL, Z2L, etc with P60L drop-in. G2L-TN & G2L-GN coming as well.
E2D LED Defender, 120L, March, $136
P61 120L drop-in - I didn't get a date or price.
G3L-BK-KIT01 - G3 with a new V85 (iirc) polymer (kydex?) holster that holds 3 extra cells plus a G3L incl. 9 Batteries $129, soon, within weeks.
X400 Weaponlight - Basically an X300 plus a laser - the best got better. $435.
UA2 OPTIMUS, May >, 200L with SSC P7 (4 x EZ1000 die), 8 output levels(2-200) + strobe + sos, fuel guage, variable focus beam. $279.
TITAN T1A - Yup, the AL TITAN is official - no date, no price, but expected this year, will use a CR123A, anodized black, barely bigger than the CR2 original I understand.
U2B INVICTUS , late this year, 400L!! with SSC P7, 8 output levels(2-200) + strobe + sos, fuel guage as UA2 but 2x as bright, not focusable and undoubtedly more spendy.
HID ARCLIGHT - smallish HID, 1600L, 12 & 16 CR123A battery versions (same output, diff runtime). 1.6Hr runtime with 16XCR123A, 1.1 with 12XCR123A. 10.5" and 8.4" long respectively, bezels are 3.45" and 3.1" No pricing. No release date.
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02-03-2008, 03:37 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Thanks for the report
Strobe and SOS...
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02-03-2008, 03:45 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Finally, the infos coming in. Thanks MattK
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02-03-2008, 03:45 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Thank you! Are there any pictures available of these U2 replacements or the HID lights? Are they in the catalog or are they still prototypes? I'm curious to see this "fuel gauge" and overall design!
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02-03-2008, 03:46 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Thanks Matt  . Did they have the new KX1 or KX2 with the two levels?
Chris
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02-03-2008, 03:47 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
HOLY S***!!! Wow, im gonna go go broke fast this year.
-Evan
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02-03-2008, 03:53 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Thanks for the update Matt
The new U2s look awsome
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02-03-2008, 03:54 AM
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Ok, I have a couple of questions Matt.
What exactly is the fuel gage?
Do the UA2 and U2B still have the U2 style selector switch?
What exactly was given out as gifts at the PK party? (Was it new lights?)
-Evan
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02-03-2008, 03:57 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
SOS/STROBE and output are pre-selected via a U2 style ring selector. Don't like em, don't use em. They're at the far ends so you don't need to ever see them if you don't want to.
UA2, UB2 and HID are all shown in the catalog - mulitple pics and decent details. We got to see prototypes in action for the UA/UB2 (at the party, not the booth) but the HID was not functional.
KX1 or KX2 with 2 levels were not shown as accessories but I did get to see a prototype 2 level KX2 in an E2L body. HAWT!
Lightguy27 - you know where to go broke.
The gifts were a lot of G2/G3/6P, some it it LED, also lots of last gen E2L but also quite a few M3/M4/M6's but folks had to earn the M's. None of the just released product that I noticed.
Must. Sleep. More tomorrow...
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02-03-2008, 03:59 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Quote:
Originally Posted by MattK
SOS/STROBE and output are pre-selected via a U2 style ring selector. Don't like em, don't use em. They're at the far ends so you don't need to ever see them if you don't want to.
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Excellent
Thanks again for the lightning fast report
Regards,
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02-03-2008, 04:03 AM
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Thanks Matt,
I really apriciate you taking the time to update those who could not attend.
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02-03-2008, 04:38 AM
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How does the fuel gauge work? Is it a series of green LEDs on the body?
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02-03-2008, 04:43 AM
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02-03-2008, 04:45 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
E2DL YESSSSSSS !!! must preorder now
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02-03-2008, 04:47 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Ill take the optimus! Variable focus looks interesting. Did anyone get pics of some of the new lights?
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02-03-2008, 04:51 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
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Ill take the optimus! Variable focus looks interesting. Did anyone get pics of some of the new lights?
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+1 for the Optimus- Great report Matt
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02-03-2008, 04:54 AM
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02-03-2008, 05:28 AM
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I thought I heard rumor of a predecessor to the SSC U bin.
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02-03-2008, 05:37 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
When do you reckon the new catalogue will be put up on their site? I cant wait to get a look at the new U2's!!!! 
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02-03-2008, 05:41 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Questions:
1. What is the method of focusing the UA2.
2. P120L runtime?
3. Will the new Kx heads be compatible with those of us that have the old Z52 twisty tailcap on our E2e/E2l bodies? Seems like if it were compatible with twistys it would be awkward at best.
4. How power hungry is a P7 and what about forward voltage? Multiple dies is going the LuxV path. Not a complaint, just curious.
5. Is the module in the new E2DL compatible with the E2e/E1e head or is it a proprietary head. I'm thinking along the lines of the TW4 with the E1 body, head and tail but with an R123 and the E2DL led module.
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02-03-2008, 05:46 AM
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Man, I can't wait for the Optimus and Invictus...
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02-03-2008, 06:13 AM
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Sounds like a very good year for Surefire / Batteryjunction to get gobs more of my money...
...gobs!
The P61 looks hot, the CR123 Aluminum Titan will be a sure winner and the UA2 looks sharp especially if the focusing ability is well executed and helpful.
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02-03-2008, 06:19 AM
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Thanks for the update. So much for paying bills with my tax refund! Now, when is the catalog coming?
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02-03-2008, 06:22 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
Matt, the UA2 OPTIMUS sounds great , how many cells does this badboy run on .
how does the focusing work ?
I'm guessing its going to be a very popular model when it hits the shelves if they can keep the price around $280
many thanks for taking to the time to post.
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02-03-2008, 06:27 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
E2D LED Defender
P61 120L drop-in.
E2L 2 stage &
E1B
Always wanted to get the E2D, but now with a led it will be super cool!... 2008 looks like another good year....
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02-03-2008, 06:42 AM
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E2D sounds awesome.
U2 sounds super awesome.
Titan sounds super duper awesome.
Can't wait till we have more details.
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02-03-2008, 06:50 AM
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WOW - Aluminum Titan that takes CR123 and is not much bigger - cool!
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02-03-2008, 06:58 AM
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Matt - THANKS for the report.
Any indication on a release date for the X400???????
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02-03-2008, 07:01 AM
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Wow...thanks for the update!!
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02-03-2008, 07:07 AM
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Re: SUREFIRE SHOT SHOW REPORT
It almost sounds as if Surefire is trying to minimize their role in incandescent lights.
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