Surefire M2 Centurion head

Policetacteam · #1 11-13-2008, 09:27 PM

Can anyone tell me where I can buy a newer model Surefire M2 Centurion head / bezel? I have the older model which is totally smooth around the edges and I would like to get one of the newer ones as pictured below which has the cut outs (sorta Fenix TK10ish). Keep in mind I do not need the lamp just the bezel! Also will this still thread on to the older body style!?! Thanks

http://www.surefire.com/surefire/content/M2_large.jpg

bullfrog · #2 11-13-2008, 09:41 PM

why don't you start by putting up a "Want to Buy" over in the marketplace...

I'm not aware of any retailers that just sell the bezel without the lamp - maybe try calling surefire directly if you don't get any bites on BST...?

kramer5150 · #3 11-13-2008, 09:47 PM

I'm sure if you post a WTT thread in the marketplace someone will offer you a trade.

. There are a lot of members who prefer the older bezel design over the current one.

Solscud007 · #4 11-14-2008, 04:40 PM

Haha actually I have a spare head, new type. wanna trade?

JNewell · #5 11-14-2008, 05:59 PM

What's the number on your light? I have # A00279, which is very early, and it has the hex bezel.

JNewell · #6 11-14-2008, 06:02 PM

OK, maybe I misunderstood. Your bezel looks like those pictured here?: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...&postcount=261

Bullzeyebill · #7 11-14-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JNewell

OK, maybe I misunderstood. Your bezel looks like those pictured here?: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...&postcount=261

Those are pics of a C2 Centurian bezel. OP is talking about the M2 shock proof bezel that fits any C series body, and of course, the M2 body. It is larger in diameter.

Bill

kramer5150 · #8 11-14-2008, 11:33 PM

FWIW, this is the current rendition M2 bezel:

Solscud007 · #9 11-15-2008, 08:59 AM

Here is what the OP is talking about.

JNewell · #10 11-15-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullzeyebill

Those are pics of a C2 Centurian bezel. OP is talking about the M2 shock proof bezel that fits any C series body, and of course, the M2 body. It is larger in diameter.

Bill

Oh, man...get me my dog and cane...

Policetacteam · #11 11-15-2008, 10:04 AM

Solscud007,

Ok,

If anything should happen to you please will your Strider knife and Strider / Surefire light to ME!!! My bezel is exactly like solscud007's. I would be happy to trade my head unit with a GG & G Tactical Impact Device attached for your knife / light combo but I think I would still owe you about $400. That is a great picture! I'm kind of a knife nut and to see those two pieces together makes your heart start. Nice knife!!!

ampdude · #12 11-15-2008, 01:58 PM

Most people seem to prefer the older version with the vented ribs. It does look a lot better in my opinion.

However the advantage of the newer version would be, it's slightly lighter in weight. I guess it all depends on priorities.

Policetacteam · #13 11-16-2008, 08:03 PM

You maybe correct about possibly shaving a tiny bit of weight but considering I carry this on my main entry vest...a few grams of weight savings is completely unnoticeable! I just kinda like the newer look of the M2 bezel. I think they both look $h!t hot but why not mix it up a bit! And for GODS sakes....if I have to look at that Strider knife one more time I'm taking a second mortgage out on my house and purchasing one! You suck Solscud007!!

signal 13 · #14 11-17-2008, 11:43 AM

I called SF directly to order the M2 bezel and I was STOKED to learn it was only $25!

But the joke was on me when I got it in the mail to find that it was the Z44 non-shock-iso C2-type bezel!

I recently acquired the newer style M2 bezel with the purchase of the $125 LU60 assembly for my SF Millenium Universal Weaponlight on my rifle.

I really do LOVE the new look of the M2 bezel too! I'm to the point where I would almost buy another LU60 just for the bezel!

ampdude · #15 11-17-2008, 11:52 AM

Yea, the weight reduction I'm sure is minuscule. I would go with the vented rib version any day. It will probably radiate heat better too.

Solscud007 · #16 11-17-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Policetacteam

And for GODS sakes....if I have to look at that Strider knife one more time I'm taking a second mortgage out on my house and purchasing one! You suck Solscud007!!

Perhaps I shall tempt you with this?

And to get your saliva going. . .
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...&postcount=339

Policetacteam · #17 11-17-2008, 07:16 PM

Dude...please!!!! Enough with the hot knife / light porn! You even switched out the tail cap! YOU ARE KILLING ME!!!!

Solscud007 · #18 11-18-2008, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Policetacteam

Dude...please!!!! Enough with the hot knife / light porn! You even switched out the tail cap! YOU ARE KILLING ME!!!!

Yeah, for the SW02. but I have yet to confirm if the M2-ST (ST for strider) came with a SW02 or not. I have seen a few pictures online that talk about the Strider combo and they are all pictured with a SW02. but no one here can confirm if they did or not.

Policetacteam · #19 11-18-2008, 07:32 AM

Are there any differences between the Surefire Z48 tail cap and the SW02 tail cap besides the obvious aesthetic differences?

ampdude · #20 11-18-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Policetacteam

Are there any differences between the Surefire Z48 tail cap and the SW02 tail cap besides the obvious aesthetic differences?

No, they have the same internals. The SW02 is heavier and bulkier than the Z48 and lacks knurling. I never understood the fascination with it, why it sells for more money, or the reason why it was ever made in the first place for that matter..

kramer5150 · #21 11-18-2008, 10:40 AM

I have never held one before, but the added mass could help counter-balance the weight of the bezel. Some of the heavier bezels do not balance very well in the hand... IMHO.

Bullzeyebill · #22 11-18-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ampdude

No, they have the same internals. The SW02 is heavier and bulkier than the Z48 and lacks knurling. I never understood the fascination with it, why it sells for more money, or the reason why it was ever made in the first place for that matter..

It is nice looking and looks good on a Surefire with the bulky turbo head. My RPM tailcap serves the same purpose.

Bill

ampdude · #23 11-18-2008, 01:33 PM

To each there own. I personally don't see the utility of it though.

RAF_Groundcrew · #24 11-18-2008, 03:26 PM

This is what I have now.....

And this is the bezel I wish I hadn't sold a year ago, I just think the older one looks better, but I needed a bezel to house an L60 LED module.

Size15's · #25 11-18-2008, 06:19 PM

The SW02 was designed, at the request of operators for WeaponLights - such as the M95. The "Charlie" (Clickie) switch like it's SW01 brother is easy to grip and rotate, even with gloves, in the cold and wet, and under stressful conditions. It was not intended for use on handheld lights.

The M2 bezel was redesigned to save weight. SureFire were careful to ensure the thermal properties of the bezel were not compromised by the weight-saving. Same goes for strength. The thickness of the bezel at the rim edge was not changed.
This bezel was just part of the drive to reduce the weight of the the M95 - the most issued WeaponLight to the US Armed Forces (AFAIK)

Policetacteam · #26 11-18-2008, 06:24 PM

Interesting facts. Its kinda funny. Looking at both pictures side by side I like the newer version better except that it looks like something is missing where the two venting ribs used to be. Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it look better with the venting ribs still there to fill that weird empty space. I'm kind of on the fence.

Solscud007 · #27 11-19-2008, 06:00 AM

Here is what a M2 head looks like inside.

That is the head that got shot out by airsoft bb fire. starting from left to right:

Bezel ring, rubber gasket, pyrex lens (which you dont see cause it got shot out) plastic neoprene holder, neoprene, metal neoprene/p60 holder

Policetacteam · #28 11-19-2008, 05:37 PM

That is very cool! Well I believe this thread has officially come full circle if we are now dissecting the head of this beast! Any other cool factoids I should be aware of!?!

kramer5150 · #29 11-19-2008, 05:45 PM

Sheesh, if theres anything you ever wanted to know about the M2... its in this thread.

Here's my vid review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WunPPjKOb3U

FWIW... it comes with two light modules A P60 and P61 (the latter having a frosted tip)

It can also be made to host LED modules.

Size15's · #30 11-19-2008, 06:21 PM

I like to think that it was my breaking the proto-type "M2" bezel that, in part, drove SureFire to giving it a much thicker bezel wall compared to the M3 bezel to beef it up.
I put the M2 through horrendously abusive, almost reckless at times field-testing. My goal was to see just how well the M2 bezel protected the Lamp Assembly. The difference between a C2 and M2 in terms of ability to withstand abusive handling and use including wilful misuse was significant. I also was able to demonstrate the robustness of the High Output Lamp Assemblies such as the P61 for the M2. The shorter, thicker, straighter filaments did not deform (or indeed break) under significant physical shock/impact etc.

I have tremendous respect for the M2.

Al