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Old 02-05-2009, 03:44 AM
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Popcorn MANY BEAMSHOTS of MC-E, R2, Q5, Q3 5A: JETBeam, Olight, Dereelight, Tiablo, Raidfire

We took different distances: 40, 100 and 150 meters.
All photos were made with the same white balance and exposition.
OP - orange peel reflector, SMO - smooth reflector.
For JETBeams was removed "Pro IBS" in model names on photos because that is shorter.

The list of competitors:

JETBeam M1X Searchlight MC-E, OP (2xCytac 18650 Li-Ion 2200mAh)
JETBeam Raptor Q5, SMO (2xCytac R123 Li-Ion 750mAh)
JETBeam JET-III Military Pro IBS Q5 WC, SMO (2xCytac R123 Li-Ion 750mAh)
JETBeam JET-III Military Pro IBS Q3 5A, SMO (2xCytac R123 Li-Ion 750mAh)
JETBeam JET-I v.2 Pro IBS, OP (1xAW 14500 Li-Ion 750mAh)
JETBeam JET-I v.2 Pro IBS Q3 5A, OP (1xAW 14500 Li-Ion 750mAh)
Olight M20 Warrior Premium R2 WH, SMO (2xAW R123 Li-Ion 750mAh)
Raidfire Spear, SMO (1xAW 18650 Li-Ion 2200mAh)
Tiablo ACE MC-E, OP (2xCytac 18650 Li-Ion 2200mAh)
Dereelight DBS V3 3SM MC-E, OP (2xAW R123 Li-Ion 750mAh)



See and enjoy! You can in easy way compare the color of light, the sizes of spot, beam distances etc.
There you can find full archive with all photos (5.7Mb).


1. 40 meters.












2. 100 meters.












3. 150 meters.








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Old 02-05-2009, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: MANY BEAMSHOTS of MC-E, R2, Q5, Q3 5A: JETBeam, Olight, Dereelight, Tiablo, Raidf

Looks like the Tiablo ACE has more spill then Jetbeam M1X at 40 meters and 100 meters.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:54 AM
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Looks like the Tiablo ACE has more spill then Jetbeam M1X at 40 meters and 100 meters.
M1X is better thrower in real life. It can be seen on 100m & 150m.
ACE has 2 times bigger diameter of spot and less throwing as result.

You should see small fog which should correct the vision: the air is illuminated by beam.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:04 AM
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Great post!

Can you put a picture showing the flashlights side by side? I've never seen the JETbeam Raptor...
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:09 AM
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..I thought thr DBS MC-E was supposed to be.. I donno.. 5 times as bright as that?
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:10 AM
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Where did you get the Raptor?? Is this the first look we have of it?

Seems to be brighter and throws better than the Spear. Nice!

Can you post some shots of just the light itself?
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:25 AM
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M1X is better thrower in real life. It can be seen on 100m & 150m.
ACE has 2 times bigger diameter of spot and less throwing as result.

You should see small fog which should correct the vision: the air is illuminated by beam.
Looks like I've got to get the M1X then. Nice pics by the way.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:39 AM
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Nice pics!
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..I thought thr DBS MC-E was supposed to be.. I donno.. 5 times as bright as that?
Maybe there was dirt on the lens.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:42 AM
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Where did you get the Raptor?? Is this the first look we have of it?

Seems to be brighter and throws better than the Spear. Nice!

Can you post some shots of just the light itself?
Official release of JETBeam Raptor will be in February. It will use Cree R2.

BTW, did you see diffusers and red filters for Olight M20 Warrior?




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Old 02-05-2009, 06:44 AM
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Nice pics!
Maybe there was dirt on the lens.
It was clear. DBS V2 R2 is real thrower.
MC-E version has wide beam.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:57 AM
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Official release of JETBeam Raptor will be in February. It will use Cree R2.
Some unofficial picture?
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:00 AM
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Some unofficial picture?
+1!

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Old 02-05-2009, 07:08 AM
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+1!

Yes, please.
No, please.
The final version will have some modifications. That will be better when we see the best photos directly from producer.

BTW, you got the beamshots BEFORE release. I think it's not bad.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:17 AM
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Fantastic post!
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:29 AM
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Thank you Megatorch I have been hoping for a comparison like this. Raptor! Thanks I guess I should save up some cash.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:56 AM
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Seriously though.. people have been saying how bright the DBS MC-E is..

Does the ACE MC-E just have that much of a better reflector? Or does it just have that many more lumens?

I was going to buy a DBS MC-E because someone said it could flood about 100 yards with a WALL OF LIGHT.

I think that person might have been a tad.. way bit wrong.
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Thank you Megatorch I have been hoping for a comparison like this. Raptor!
I quite agree, thanks.

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Great set of photos Megatorch!

Are you sure the Dereelight DBS MC-E had fresh batterys in it!
I was under the impression it was a better thrower than that.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:57 PM
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Really impressed with the throw on that raptor.

Thanks for doing this.Excellent comparison.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:37 AM
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..I thought thr DBS MC-E was supposed to be.. I donno.. 5 times as bright as that?
The Tiablo MC-E and Jetbeam MC-E were being driven by 2x18650 while the DBS MC-E was being driven by 2xrcr123's.I don't know if that is why it looks so dim. BTW-thanks for such great pics!!!
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:40 AM
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Both Tiablo ACE and Jet M1X have much larger reflectors. That's what is important when trying to focus multi emitter LEDs to achieve lots of throw. The DBS has a very deep reflector, but it's not that large. That is why the DBS is fairly floody with MCE pill.
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Is it fair to say that the Tiablo A10 MCE seems to put out more overall light than the JetBeam M1X?

That is the impression I have from the beamshots.
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Old 02-06-2009, 06:32 AM
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Is it fair to say that the Tiablo A10 MCE seems to put out more overall light than the JetBeam M1X?

That is the impression I have from the beamshots.

From the beamshots, I would have to agree also. On the other hand, I would like to say that the M1X might have a tighter spot. Hard to tell though, they almost look to have the same brightness in the hotspot, but with the ACE have a wider spill.

Maybe Megatorch can give us his thoughts after he has compared the two in real life.
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Well, he mentioned this:
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ACE has 2 times bigger diameter of spot and less throwing as result.
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From what I can see especially in the 100 meter shots
the A10 does seem to have a brighter hotspot.

But I would still buy the M1X. Tiablos recent release of the A10
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From what I can see especially in the 100 meter shots
the A10 does seem to have a brighter hotspot.

But I would still buy the M1X. Tiablos recent release of the A10
was not in my opinion very favourable.
What's wrong with the A10?
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Great post. Thanks Megatorch!
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It´s Just me or the ACE is better than the MX1 in all pictures ?
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What's wrong with the A10?
You need to read the Tiablos sales thread in the Dealers/Manufacturers
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What's wrong with the A10?
When you read the ACE-Thread in the MarketPlace you will notice that Tiablos engineers did a more than worse job on making a driver for the A10.
For me, the ACE is in its current version a real no go.
It can be the brightest of all but the driver is real crap.
When they produce an update that holds their initial promises i might consider it but i don't want to be their beta-tester. Just my 2 Cents...



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