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07-10-2003, 01:33 PM
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
so THAT's why we havent seen any X binned 5 watters...Audi have nicked them all for themselves
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07-10-2003, 01:42 PM
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Flashaholic*
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
They look a bit green to me
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07-10-2003, 02:02 PM
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Flashaholic*
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
Hmm, how would the brightness compare to HID (which is probably cheaper and more readily available)?
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07-10-2003, 02:22 PM
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Flashaholic*
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
Are those five watts? What is the bin rating on those?
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07-10-2003, 03:00 PM
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
They do have a bit of that "rotten dog urine green" color to them, but maybe it was just the camera. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smoker5.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img]
[What's this? Can't spell toilet?. Edited for spelling by Size15s.]
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07-10-2003, 03:25 PM
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
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The LED Museum said:
They do have a bit of that "rotten dog urine green" color to them, but maybe it was just the camera. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img] :toliet: [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img]
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I thought the correct technical term was "rotten cat urine green"? Is there maybe a slight color variance I'm not detecting that distinguishes the two?
Seriously ... I don't get it. Those have to be expensive, what is the advantage other than being novel? I could understand maybe for dash light's, because if one of those burns out it is a real pain to change it. Todays HID car lamp's seem to last for several years, can be easily changed when needed, and aren't all that expensive.
Sort of looks like a case of where a solution is seeking out a problem [that doesn't exist].
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07-10-2003, 03:42 PM
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Enlightened
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
I bet they mave a very nice even white color and flood, making visability really nice.
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07-10-2003, 03:53 PM
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Farewell our Curmudgeon Administrator 
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
I'll bet those lights have never shown upon any road! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
How'd you like to have that thing coming at you in the middle of the night? Talk about loss of night vision!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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07-11-2003, 03:53 AM
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Flashaholic
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Re: Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)
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Hmm, how would the brightness compare to HID (which is probably cheaper and more readily available)?
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Your guess would be as good as mine: there are 22 luxeons in there with individual optics in 5(IIRC) arrays that seem to be individually adjustable. So, if they're using 5 Watters driven at nominal power, that would be 110 Watts.
It could also be overdriven 1-Watters or underdriven 5ers, but I'd guess total light output would be comparable to an HID within the resolution of the human eye.
Advantages of the array could be:
- larger emitting area -> less blinding to others, less problems with partially obscured glass
- adjustable arrays -> emitting characteristics (near, far, fog, left side drive, corners, drl, load adjustment, ...) can be adjusted on the fly
- more homogeneous flood would be possible
Of course, there's the disadvantage of having moving parts and a shorter lifetime....
Bye
Markus
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