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Old 07-10-2003, 01:30 PM
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Default Audi consept car with LED headlamps (Pics)

I just saw a review in CAR (English magazine - August issue) that the new Audi Nuvolari consept car has luxeon LEDs as headlamps. I just thought you guys might be interested:

Front:


Headlamp closeup:


Text describing the headlamps (not much...):


(I used my digital camera and took snapshots from the mag).

Here is a picture from audi world:


More info here:
http://www.audiworld.com/news/03/050403b/content.shtml
http://www.audiworld.com/news/03/gen.../content.shtml
http://www.vwvortex.com/news/03_03/03_04/index.shtml
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Old 07-10-2003, 01:33 PM
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so THAT's why we havent seen any X binned 5 watters...Audi have nicked them all for themselves
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Old 07-10-2003, 01:42 PM
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They look a bit green to me
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Old 07-10-2003, 02:02 PM
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Hmm, how would the brightness compare to HID (which is probably cheaper and more readily available)?
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Old 07-10-2003, 02:22 PM
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Are those five watts? What is the bin rating on those?
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:00 PM
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They do have a bit of that "rotten dog urine green" color to them, but maybe it was just the camera. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smoker5.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img]

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Old 07-10-2003, 03:25 PM
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They do have a bit of that "rotten dog urine green" color to them, but maybe it was just the camera. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img] :toliet: [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img]

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I thought the correct technical term was "rotten cat urine green"? Is there maybe a slight color variance I'm not detecting that distinguishes the two?

Seriously ... I don't get it. Those have to be expensive, what is the advantage other than being novel? I could understand maybe for dash light's, because if one of those burns out it is a real pain to change it. Todays HID car lamp's seem to last for several years, can be easily changed when needed, and aren't all that expensive.

Sort of looks like a case of where a solution is seeking out a problem [that doesn't exist].
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:42 PM
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I bet they mave a very nice even white color and flood, making visability really nice.
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:53 PM
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I'll bet those lights have never shown upon any road! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
How'd you like to have that thing coming at you in the middle of the night? Talk about loss of night vision!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-11-2003, 03:53 AM
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Hmm, how would the brightness compare to HID (which is probably cheaper and more readily available)?

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Your guess would be as good as mine: there are 22 luxeons in there with individual optics in 5(IIRC) arrays that seem to be individually adjustable. So, if they're using 5 Watters driven at nominal power, that would be 110 Watts.
It could also be overdriven 1-Watters or underdriven 5ers, but I'd guess total light output would be comparable to an HID within the resolution of the human eye.
Advantages of the array could be:
- larger emitting area -> less blinding to others, less problems with partially obscured glass
- adjustable arrays -> emitting characteristics (near, far, fog, left side drive, corners, drl, load adjustment, ...) can be adjusted on the fly
- more homogeneous flood would be possible

Of course, there's the disadvantage of having moving parts and a shorter lifetime....


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