p60 sized led drop-in's

[kramer5150]

katsyonak
Thanks for the answer ! That are pretty cool pic !

Is there any runtime test done with the 6090 drop-in ?
What about the regulation with 2 x RCR123 ?

Thanks !

FWIW... I took some old SF old primaries that were too dead to even light the P60 incan module (DEAD as a doorknob). These cells were ready for the recycle dumpster.

I tried them out with the P6+DX:6090 and to my surprise, I got a few days use out of them. Of course it was running dimmer than optimal, but it was easily enough light to illuminate my backyard (~40 feet) for a couple days of intermittent use. Died quickly there-after though. So the 6090 seemed to just... dim slowly with the cells and the output turned green/yellow. There was no hard cut-off from the regulation. Protected RCRs probably would have fared differently.

I don't have my DX charger yet so I can't comment on how long or how blazing the output is fresh off the charger (that first ~10 minutes).

 

[Spypro]

Thanks !
I've tried to find a runtime test where regulation is explained but with no success.

 

[matt0]

**Dereelight drop ins**

http://www.dereelight.com/module-list.htm​

- 1SM-2(1-stage multi power) Cree XR-E Q5 module (6V max) -
$29.00
Input Range: 3~6V
Output Range: 1A
Battery Type: 1x18650, CR123A's, RCR123's
Features:
+ constant output at 4.5~16V.
+ recommended use 2xCR123A,3xCR123A or more
(Note: Yes thats how they list the voltage on the web page. If anyone
can verify which it is please do so )

I just received my 1SM-2 with SMO and OP reflectors. The the label on the SMO reflector says "Input Range: 3-16V." I really have no way of testing this, so far, I have been using SF123 primaries

I can get beamshots later on (with a better camera than my cellphone, below) if there is any interest. However, I dont have another host body to compare this to a P60 incan

 

[roymail]

How's the brightness with that Dereelight 1SM module?... :duh2:

 

[matt0]

Its pretty damn bright... I dont have much to compare it to but I can tell you its my brightest flashlight. Besides the ^6P^ I have an L0D Q4, 4D Mag with a Terralux (K2?) drop in, X0, X1 and X5...

It's much more throwy than I wanted. I ordered it with both the SMO and OP reflectors hoping that SMO would be for throw and OP would be for flood. However, the OP seems to throw just as much and just have a smoother less-ringy beam

 

[kramer5150]

Its pretty damn bright... I dont have much to compare it to but I can tell you its my brightest flashlight. Besides the ^6P^ I have an L0D Q4, 4D Mag with a Terralux (K2?) drop in, X0, X1 and X5...

It's much more throwy than I wanted. I ordered it with both the SMO and OP reflectors hoping that SMO would be for throw and OP would be for flood. However, the OP seems to throw just as much and just have a smoother less-ringy beam

Cool... sounds like a slightly cheaper alternative to the BOG thrower.

1Amp + 8.4Volts + Q5 = should be pretty bright.

 

[santza]

Which of the cheap DX cree p60 drop-ins has best throw? Do them all fit in polymer body g2? Is there enough heat sinking or is it better to stick to metal body?

 

[matt0]

Cool... sounds like a slightly cheaper alternative to the BOG thrower.

1Amp + 8.4Volts + Q5 = should be pretty bright.

i think dereelight has one thats meant for RCR123's that draws 1.2A. i imagine that one would be brighter

does anybody know approx how many lumens the 1SM-2 is? 200+?

 

[kramer5150]

Which of the cheap DX cree p60 drop-ins has best throw? Do them all fit in polymer body g2? Is there enough heat sinking or is it better to stick to metal body?

My 6P does get noticeably warm to the touch after the DX 6090 has been continually on for ~15 minutes. First area to heat up is the hexagonal "anti-roll" area of the bezel. From there heat travels up to the top of the bezel/head and down the length of the body tube at about equal rates. At about 20 minutes the entire light is warm from lens to tailcap, like a warm bowl of soup. So, there is no doubt in my mind that the body, tailcap and bezel conduct heat away from vital engine parts.

Walking around with the light at night, (cigar hold) keeps cool air flowing around the light and it stays noticeably cooler than when placed on a table and used indoors.

Whether or not the 6P body is better than the G2 would depend on the thermal properties of each design (IE surface area geometry and thermal conductive properties of each material.)

 

[AWGD8]

I want to try the Malkoff-Wii bulb

Just like the Wii game station, it`s hard to get one

 

[Wolf359]

i ordered Cree Q5 LED Drop-in Module (18V Input)

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11621

recieved it this morning i was under the impression that it was a single mode dropin but the one i received is multimode low/med/high/strobe/sos. the ziploc bag the dropin was sent in has the correct sku. has anyone else got one of the 11621 modules and was it multimode ? FYI it has no memory. to be honest it would have been better choice to get the 6090 P4 module than this one.

 

[Isthereanybodyoutthere]

i ordered Cree Q5 LED Drop-in Module (18V Input)

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11621

recieved it this morning i was under the impression that it was a single mode dropin but the one i received is multimode low/med/high/strobe/sos. the ziploc bag the dropin was sent in has the correct sku. has anyone else got one of the 11621 modules and was it multimode ? FYI it has no memory. to be honest it would have been better choice to get the 6090 P4 module than this one.

How does it run on 3, ,6, ,9 volt
3,6, 7,2 10,8 volt ???

 

[kramer5150]

i ordered Cree Q5 LED Drop-in Module (18V Input)

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11621

recieved it this morning i was under the impression that it was a single mode dropin but the one i received is multimode low/med/high/strobe/sos. the ziploc bag the dropin was sent in has the correct sku. has anyone else got one of the 11621 modules and was it multimode ? FYI it has no memory. to be honest it would have been better choice to get the 6090 P4 module than this one.

Thats good to know. What mode does it turn on with? If it always turns on in low that might not be too bad with a reverse clicky...IMHO.

 

[roymail]

I'm a big fan of the #6090 but I have to wonder why you would prefer it over the Q5? Have you compared the two...?

Reason is that the Q5 is bound to replace the #6090 at some point. Maybe I need to get another one. Thanks.

 

[Wolf359]

Isthereanybodyoutthere
i have run it using a single trustfire 18650 and 2 x trustfire rcr123's fresh off the charger and on high it looks the same as the solarforce q5 single mode. i have not dared to use it with more than 2 x rcr123's as i am not sure i recieved the correct module and DX has yet to respond to the ticket i raised about it.

kramer5150
it always starts with the next mode in the sequence so if you where using it on high turned it off and switched on it would be on strobe bloody annoying it is to.

roymail
i preffer the 6090 over the DX 11621 as it is almost as bright to the naked eye i perffer the tint as well. i have got 2 other Q5 single mode P60's both off of ebay sellers and again i preffer the 6090 tint.

 

[Wolf359]

Cree R2 Drop-In 1-Mode LED Module (3.7V~18V / 26.5mm x 29mm) $15.50

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11836

Width: 26.5mm
Height: 29mm (without the included support spring)
Output: 117~225 Lumens (manufacturer rated)
Input Voltage Range: 3.7V~18V

 

[Bigsy]

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Received the G&P Q5 'Long Focus' drop-in today.

Initially two things stand out, it's springless, so you need cells with + button sticking out to get contact.

Secondly and most important, the reflector is MUCH deeper than a standard drop-in,
the hotspot is intense with essentially no CREE ring.
I'll get back on tint, but it should throw great for a drop-in...

Running 8.4V w/ (2) 17500s

Would love to buy some drop-in reflectors like this, especially smooth ones, would make the ultimate p60 thrower.

 

[loonybin]

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Received the G&P Q5 'Long Focus' drop-in today.

Initially two things stand out, it's springless, so you need cells with + button sticking out to get contact.

Secondly and most important, the reflector is MUCH deeper than a standard drop-in,
the hotspot is intense with essentially no CREE ring.
I'll get back on tint, but it should throw great for a drop-in...

Running 8.4V w/ (2) 17500s

Any idea on runtime and regulation? I take it that it will work in a 9P?

Edit: so, um, yeah. Reading is fundamental, isn't it? Now that I know it works in a 9P, any idea on regulation and runtime?

 

[orbital]

Any idea on runtime and regulation? I take it that it will work in a 9P?

Edit: so, um, yeah. Reading is fundamental, isn't it? Now that I know it works in a 9P, any idea on regulation and runtime?

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I really don't do runtime tests. On my second set of cells right now.
Running (2) 17500s with this G&P was about as long as some of my single 18650 Q5 drop-ins, possibly a bit longer.

Regulation is good with only a slight drop in output throughout cell life.
The tint is very white.
It changes slightly toward the end of regulation (< volts) with a subtle warming to tint, but not to yellow or green.
Regulation comes to a sharp cut off when my cells protection circuit kicks in.

Overall I like the G&P Q5 'Long Focus' drop-in. Great beam pattern, fantastic reflector, with good regulation and tint.

I have brighter drop-ins, but this one is unique,...do I dare say 'cool'

 

[Lunal_Tic]

Re: p60 sized drop-in's

I've picked up a couple different models of these and have yet to find my "grail". I'm going to run it in a Surefire G3 using 3x123 or 2xLi-ion set up so it needs to handle 9V. I already have a difuser filter and 2 stage switch for the light so I'm looking for the most throw and output from one of these drop-ins.

I've already tried ones from Litemania, Wolf-Eyes, and an older gen from BOG. Because I have a 2-stage in the light I'm not worried about heat. If I need to turn it down for extended use I can.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
-LT