Not sure if I am right, but I did not see a option for OP there??
Please correct me if I am wrong. Looking to buy, Thanks
EagleTac T20C2 Mark II (XP-G R5) Review: BEAMSHOTS, RUNTIMES and more!
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Not sure if I am right, but I did not see a option for OP there??
Please correct me if I am wrong. Looking to buy, Thanks
AardvarkSagus
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Yeah, I don't see it either. I would say either PM or better yet call Mike@PTS and see whether it is available. Tell him AardvarkSagus sent ya!
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From the PTS-Flashlights web page for the T20C2 MkII
I just ordered one tonight and included a note comment box at checkout so we'll see how it goes.
I'm a little confused about the available reflectors. I read somewhere that this model comes standard with an "LOP" (Light Orange Peel) reflector, with an OP and smooth (SMO) optional. The LOP doesn't seem to be mentioned in this thread. How many different reflectors are available and if there is an LOP reflector, what are its characteristics relative to the smooth and orange peel versions?
Thanks
lebox97
Enlightened
there you are - mcpingist...
:welcome:
here is a cut n paste from an email I just sent a customer with similar questions relating to T20C2 MKII:
"when I measured LUX output (center spot intensity) between the three reflector types w/ XP-G R5 LED I found on average:
LOP offered highest LUX
SMO was about 6% less
OP was about 12% less
LOP had furthest throw, OP had less throw (which makes sense)
SMO having less throw than LOP is what was a surprise to everyone initially, as this is counter intuitive, and not the case with R2, Q5 and previous LED models (SMO typically offers 15-20% MORE throw)
But SMO w/ R5 LED typically produces a darker center - almost a donut hole which is what is being seen/measured by the LUX meter."
perhaps I am sorting my reflectors differently than others - :shrug:
when pre-testing, I run across some modules that have more texture, and thus a smoother beam transition than the LOP and set those aside and mark them as OP.
FYI, ET announced this week that the T100C2 MKII's are no longer going to be offered in SMO or OP choices - and their default for T100C2 MKII model is now LOP...
so I think we will see a continuing trend as they migrate away from multiple reflector choices to a single factory recommended/default choice. (it would certainly make my life easier!)
as always... YMMV
Tod
:welcome:
here is a cut n paste from an email I just sent a customer with similar questions relating to T20C2 MKII:
"when I measured LUX output (center spot intensity) between the three reflector types w/ XP-G R5 LED I found on average:
LOP offered highest LUX
SMO was about 6% less
OP was about 12% less
LOP had furthest throw, OP had less throw (which makes sense)
SMO having less throw than LOP is what was a surprise to everyone initially, as this is counter intuitive, and not the case with R2, Q5 and previous LED models (SMO typically offers 15-20% MORE throw)
But SMO w/ R5 LED typically produces a darker center - almost a donut hole which is what is being seen/measured by the LUX meter."
perhaps I am sorting my reflectors differently than others - :shrug:
when pre-testing, I run across some modules that have more texture, and thus a smoother beam transition than the LOP and set those aside and mark them as OP.
FYI, ET announced this week that the T100C2 MKII's are no longer going to be offered in SMO or OP choices - and their default for T100C2 MKII model is now LOP...
so I think we will see a continuing trend as they migrate away from multiple reflector choices to a single factory recommended/default choice. (it would certainly make my life easier!)
as always... YMMV
Tod
Thanks Tod. I believe you were the original source of my info. I was curious why I hadn't noticed others even mentioning the LOP and was interested to see if anyone would confirm or dispute that info. No disrespect, just a newbie trying to make sure I understand things.
Thanks
Thanks
Chevy-SS
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Kremer
Enlightened
From the runtime plots it doesn't look like it hits the cell protection cutoff on an 18650 (you can see all the lights clearly do on 2x RCR). This means to me that it won't suck an unprotected 18650 down into the ground. Good news for the laptop battery extractors among us.
Phaserburn
Flashlight Enthusiast
I wonder if ET will release any XP-G R4 neutral white modules for this light...
Wilkerson Brasil
Newly Enlightened
How many amps do you get from tailcap on max?
Mine is only 0,65A.
Mine is only 0,65A.
Phaserburn
Flashlight Enthusiast
That sounds too low to me.
Wilkerson Brasil
Newly Enlightened
For me too. Flashlight is very bright. Output seems to be exactly as expected compared with others that uses XPG. My multimeter get normal (higher) values in other flashlight.
m3flies
Banned
I just noticed that I can change the settings by pushing in on the bezel instead of twisting. Will this damage the light?
m3flies
Banned
Thanks Lawliet. I thought this would be the case, but just wanted to double check.
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UPDATE:
I've just updated the main thread with the results from a new XR-E R2 drop-in for the T20C2-II. Eagletac developed this module to restore the throw characteristics of the original T20C2 (which many seem to like), while maintaining the build and user interface updates of the Mark-II design.
The new XR-E R2 drop-in for the T20C2-II:
Since the Mk II head dimensions have changed slightly from the original T20C2, this drop-in has a slightly narrower width than the original T20C2. Orange Peel texturing also seems a bit higher on my sample. Still, I suspect this new drop-in will go a long way in restoring the throw and output of the original T20C2 - but with the new T20C2-II interface.
Here are some up-close white-wall beamshots comparing the new T20C2-II R2-drop-in with the original T20C2 (XR-E R2):
Basically, throw seems pretty comparable, but the new drop-in is also more ringy beyond the hotspot's corona.
I can't do side-by-side shots of the XP-G R5 and XR-E R2 modules for the T20C2-II (I only have one body).
Here are some external 100-yard beamshots (sorry, I forgot to test the XP-G R5 version
). Please see my Outdoor 100-Yard Round-up Review for more info on these shots.
Again, there is not a huge difference, but it does confirm what you can see in the white-wall shots – the new T20C2-II R2 drop-in throws similar to the original T20C2, although with some relative variation in the fore- to mid-ground rings.
Here are how the T20C2-II with the new XR-E R2 drop-in compares to other lights of this class (note: this configuration is identified as "T20C2II (XR-E R2) OP" in the table below).
Again, these numbers confirm that the new XR-E R2 drop-in for the T20C2-II performs close to the original T20C2, but with just a touch less output and throw on my sample.
Please see the main review thread for all the runtime results. Here's a sample:
Basically, the new XR-E R2 drop-in has comparable output and runtime to the original T20C2 XR-E R2. Any variation you are seeing there is likely just due to the binning (i.e. all R2 bins have a ~7% variation of outputs).
Bottom line, this new XR-E R2 drop-in for T20C2-II effectively restores the output and throw characteristics of the original T20C2, but with the build and user interface improvements of the T20C2-II. A good option for those who want it! :thumbsup:
I've just updated the main thread with the results from a new XR-E R2 drop-in for the T20C2-II. Eagletac developed this module to restore the throw characteristics of the original T20C2 (which many seem to like), while maintaining the build and user interface updates of the Mark-II design.
The new XR-E R2 drop-in for the T20C2-II:
Since the Mk II head dimensions have changed slightly from the original T20C2, this drop-in has a slightly narrower width than the original T20C2. Orange Peel texturing also seems a bit higher on my sample. Still, I suspect this new drop-in will go a long way in restoring the throw and output of the original T20C2 - but with the new T20C2-II interface.
Here are some up-close white-wall beamshots comparing the new T20C2-II R2-drop-in with the original T20C2 (XR-E R2):
Basically, throw seems pretty comparable, but the new drop-in is also more ringy beyond the hotspot's corona.
I can't do side-by-side shots of the XP-G R5 and XR-E R2 modules for the T20C2-II (I only have one body
).Here are some external 100-yard beamshots (sorry, I forgot to test the XP-G R5 version
). Please see my Outdoor 100-Yard Round-up Review for more info on these shots.
Again, there is not a huge difference, but it does confirm what you can see in the white-wall shots – the new T20C2-II R2 drop-in throws similar to the original T20C2, although with some relative variation in the fore- to mid-ground rings.
Here are how the T20C2-II with the new XR-E R2 drop-in compares to other lights of this class (note: this configuration is identified as "T20C2II (XR-E R2) OP" in the table below).
Again, these numbers confirm that the new XR-E R2 drop-in for the T20C2-II performs close to the original T20C2, but with just a touch less output and throw on my sample.
Please see the main review thread for all the runtime results. Here's a sample:
Basically, the new XR-E R2 drop-in has comparable output and runtime to the original T20C2 XR-E R2. Any variation you are seeing there is likely just due to the binning (i.e. all R2 bins have a ~7% variation of outputs).
Bottom line, this new XR-E R2 drop-in for T20C2-II effectively restores the output and throw characteristics of the original T20C2, but with the build and user interface improvements of the T20C2-II. A good option for those who want it! :thumbsup:
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AardvarkSagus
Flashlight Enthusiast
Hilarious that I should find this review right after I am outside attempting beamshots of this exact drop-in. Great write up, as usual.
Haha ... looking forward to seeing how your beamshots come out.
AardvarkSagus
Flashlight Enthusiast
I believe the best term is: Meh. I don't have the best camera. I'll try to get the review up tonight though so you can determine for yourself.Haha ... looking forward to seeing how your beamshots come out.
