The Walking Dead ***POSSIBLE SPOILERS*** - You've Been Warned!
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Re: The Walking Dead
Well, looks like I was right
Well, looks like I was right
Skimo
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Yeah, tonight's show was another time waster, I see no need for giving the governor more backstory... Tonight could have been next weeks episode where he shows up with a tank/small army.
Yeah, tonight's show was another time waster, I see no need for giving the governor more backstory... Tonight could have been next weeks episode where he shows up with a tank/small army.
Re: The Walking Dead
I dunno... I like character development in stories. The last two episodes have been a nice break from some rather disturbing stuff that had happened. I think it's interesting to get a glimpse of how this whole "apocalypse" has changed people and what it has forced them to become. Guess I'm just a people-person... I wanna know what makes them tick... or tic?
I dunno... I like character development in stories. The last two episodes have been a nice break from some rather disturbing stuff that had happened. I think it's interesting to get a glimpse of how this whole "apocalypse" has changed people and what it has forced them to become. Guess I'm just a people-person... I wanna know what makes them tick... or tic?
skyfire
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Re: The Walking Dead
havent seen the latest episode, will probably watch it tonight on amazon prime with my sister and her husband.
but the previous episode about the governor i thought was a snore fest. i couldnt even finish it. my brother thought it was a great episode though.
i appreciate that they included more character development with him. i just felt dedicating the entire episode was a waste. (from the previous posts, i have low expectations with the latest(next) episode. hopefully i dont get disappointed again).
they are also really dragging out the prison setting. even more than they did with the farm setting. in the comics theyve moved on after the governor over-ran it with walkers. even with all that said , i still cant stop watching it
havent seen the latest episode, will probably watch it tonight on amazon prime with my sister and her husband.
but the previous episode about the governor i thought was a snore fest. i couldnt even finish it. my brother thought it was a great episode though.
i appreciate that they included more character development with him. i just felt dedicating the entire episode was a waste. (from the previous posts, i have low expectations with the latest(next) episode. hopefully i dont get disappointed again).
they are also really dragging out the prison setting. even more than they did with the farm setting. in the comics theyve moved on after the governor over-ran it with walkers. even with all that said , i still cant stop watching it
Re: The Walking Dead
I still am ... But I'm starting to wonder why!
Heard the rumors that they hired a new Head Writer for this season's Walking Dead. If those rumors are true, they need to fire his butt. No spoilers, but last night's episode was just :fail:.
I actually got bored. Except for that one scene. And even that couldn't make me excited. Mid-season finale next week. I'm pretty much just going to watch to see who gets killed off. Obviously all the new characters who were introduced at the end of last season. Soooo much the writers could have done with the new characters. Instead, chose to just kill them off! They're dropping like flies! Looks like Bob's alcoholism is going to be cured with a bullet! Yeah, rather obvious Bob and his going-nowhere personal story-line is finished. Anyone want to bet the little girls are goners too. Probably. They're new. Writers hate new. Likely sacrifice a long-time character too. Though they might just go cheesy and decide not to.
That's about it. Far too much filler and recycled story-lines from last season for my taste. :thumbsdow
I still am ... But I'm starting to wonder why!
Heard the rumors that they hired a new Head Writer for this season's Walking Dead. If those rumors are true, they need to fire his butt. No spoilers, but last night's episode was just :fail:.
I actually got bored. Except for that one scene. And even that couldn't make me excited. Mid-season finale next week. I'm pretty much just going to watch to see who gets killed off. Obviously all the new characters who were introduced at the end of last season. Soooo much the writers could have done with the new characters. Instead, chose to just kill them off! They're dropping like flies! Looks like Bob's alcoholism is going to be cured with a bullet! Yeah, rather obvious Bob and his going-nowhere personal story-line is finished. Anyone want to bet the little girls are goners too. Probably. They're new. Writers hate new. Likely sacrifice a long-time character too. Though they might just go cheesy and decide not to.
That's about it. Far too much filler and recycled story-lines from last season for my taste. :thumbsdow
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Honestly, as an amateur writer, I love character development.
I know how important it can be. But ... There's no point in developing a character if you're just going to turn him back into the same two-dimensional psychopath he used to be last season. Then it becomes just a waste. Just a lazy, cruel trick on the Audience or the Reader.
I dunno... I like character development in stories. The last two episodes have been a nice break from some rather disturbing stuff that had happened. I think it's interesting to get a glimpse of how this whole "apocalypse" has changed people and what it has forced them to become. Guess I'm just a people-person... I wanna know what makes them tick... or tic?
Honestly, as an amateur writer, I love character development.
I know how important it can be. But ... There's no point in developing a character if you're just going to turn him back into the same two-dimensional psychopath he used to be last season. Then it becomes just a waste. Just a lazy, cruel trick on the Audience or the Reader.
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I'm sorry, I really am. But overall ... Yeah, you're going to be disappointed again.
I'm sorry, I really am. But overall ... Yeah, you're going to be disappointed again.
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I just finished watching the last episode and I dont really have a problem with the slower episodes that are used for character development, as long as the writing is good. The main problem that I am having is that some of the writing is kind of sloppy. A lot of the scenes and acting seem like they were written for a made for SyFy network movie and its kind of jarring some times.
Now that I got that out of the way...Was anyone thinking the same thing as me when they were looking in the cabin for the walker? I couldnt help notice what a crappy beam that maglite had that the governor was using. Do you think any of the brain and skull splattered on the lens improved it at all?
I just finished watching the last episode and I dont really have a problem with the slower episodes that are used for character development, as long as the writing is good. The main problem that I am having is that some of the writing is kind of sloppy. A lot of the scenes and acting seem like they were written for a made for SyFy network movie and its kind of jarring some times.
Now that I got that out of the way...Was anyone thinking the same thing as me when they were looking in the cabin for the walker? I couldnt help notice what a crappy beam that maglite had that the governor was using.
Do you think any of the brain and skull splattered on the lens improved it at all?Skimo
Newly Enlightened
The Walking Dead
Yeah, the crappy dark center of a mag...
I notice that way after the end... Guys used to being around walkers can find themselves surprised by walkers in a cabin. The audience is supposed to think that walkers can be sneaky enough to surprise a few guys in a 12'x12' room?!
More talk of lazy writers... Mendez knows the gov is a friggin loon and instead of killing a dangerous nut job.... Invites him into camp without telling anyone else to watch out.
What kind if man sees his brothers murderer and doesn't take the first opportunity to take revenge?
Lazy writers, recycled plots, plot chasms, not gaps, chasms.
I'm really wondering how people are still driving so much.
I think the old man might finally die next episode, Rick's taken over the hand wringing do-gooder role, kicking out Carol was stupid and shows no loyalty from Rick... I hope he gets taken out too, he's nothing but weight for the group.
Knowing the writers, they'll probably toss Glen out, why? Because he just kicked the flus butt, he's been billy bad-a** since day one and these writers like to pull the rug. If you have to rely on cliffhangers and writers tricks almost every episode.... There's not much story left.
Yeah, the crappy dark center of a mag...
I notice that way after the end... Guys used to being around walkers can find themselves surprised by walkers in a cabin. The audience is supposed to think that walkers can be sneaky enough to surprise a few guys in a 12'x12' room?!
More talk of lazy writers... Mendez knows the gov is a friggin loon and instead of killing a dangerous nut job.... Invites him into camp without telling anyone else to watch out.
What kind if man sees his brothers murderer and doesn't take the first opportunity to take revenge?
Lazy writers, recycled plots, plot chasms, not gaps, chasms.
I'm really wondering how people are still driving so much.
I think the old man might finally die next episode, Rick's taken over the hand wringing do-gooder role, kicking out Carol was stupid and shows no loyalty from Rick... I hope he gets taken out too, he's nothing but weight for the group.
Knowing the writers, they'll probably toss Glen out, why? Because he just kicked the flus butt, he's been billy bad-a** since day one and these writers like to pull the rug. If you have to rely on cliffhangers and writers tricks almost every episode.... There's not much story left.
RetroTechie
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In today's society, technology has replaced some (big part?) of that. Trash a lot of that (especially infrastructure like power / comms / water / sewage etc), and people-people relations become much more important again.
Like never even leave the house, order new flashlight online, wait, open door to accept delivery, done. Versus: gather some trusted people, leave secure compound, drive around the countryside, and ransack some abandoned store to... hey shiny new flashlight!
People (you know & trust) are much more important in the 2nd case.
Tbh I'm doubting a little the group vs. group fighting all over. Sure things will be chaotic for a while. But then things 'stabilize' and survivors become used to the changed environment. @ That point it's more logical to have some semi-isolated groups, some bigger, some smaller, some that do things the X way, some that do thing the Y way. But mostly co-operating to keep alive under the circumstances.
When few people survive, enough abandoned warehouses, buildings, tools, weapons, land etc. available to those few survivors. Kinda like a new pioneering age aka wild west... :laughing:
I mostly enjoyed the "survive initial onslaught" part of TWD. But I liked what I saw so far, so I'm curious to see where things are heading...
Yeah, people-people relationships are one thing that makes human society different from one where individuals duke it out for themselves...I think it's interesting to get a glimpse of how this whole "apocalypse" has changed people and what it has forced them to become. Guess I'm just a people-person... I wanna know what makes them tick... or tic?
In today's society, technology has replaced some (big part?) of that. Trash a lot of that (especially infrastructure like power / comms / water / sewage etc), and people-people relations become much more important again.
Like never even leave the house, order new flashlight online, wait, open door to accept delivery, done. Versus: gather some trusted people, leave secure compound, drive around the countryside, and ransack some abandoned store to... hey shiny new flashlight!
People (you know & trust) are much more important in the 2nd case.
Tbh I'm doubting a little the group vs. group fighting all over. Sure things will be chaotic for a while. But then things 'stabilize' and survivors become used to the changed environment. @ That point it's more logical to have some semi-isolated groups, some bigger, some smaller, some that do things the X way, some that do thing the Y way. But mostly co-operating to keep alive under the circumstances.
When few people survive, enough abandoned warehouses, buildings, tools, weapons, land etc. available to those few survivors. Kinda like a new pioneering age aka wild west... :laughing:
I mostly enjoyed the "survive initial onslaught" part of TWD. But I liked what I saw so far, so I'm curious to see where things are heading...
Kai Winters
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Re: The Walking Dead
It's become a zombie soap opera for me...I keep rooting for the zombies to get them all they have become so boring.
Each episode is one nightmare after another for them...please give us an episode when some good stuff happens...I keep hoping for a mercy kill for them and us...an end to a boring show and we get to move on.
Really !!! the gov is back and digging a grave with ninja chick??? Please...makes the show worse and worse. I've not seen this episode yet and not really looking forward to it.
It's become a zombie soap opera for me...I keep rooting for the zombies to get them all they have become so boring.
Each episode is one nightmare after another for them...please give us an episode when some good stuff happens...I keep hoping for a mercy kill for them and us...an end to a boring show and we get to move on.
Really !!! the gov is back and digging a grave with ninja chick??? Please...makes the show worse and worse. I've not seen this episode yet and not really looking forward to it.
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The Producers plain and simply screwed up with the whole "Everyone is infected thing."
So basically no hope whatsoever. Why would anyone go on? Why would anyone even take in someone elderly if they might die of old age, come back as a walker inside their camp, and randomly start killing before they could be put down?
Here's the thing, you can't make the show exactly like the comic. You can't even have the show mirror the comic in many ways. Otherwise, why would folks tune in to watch? No. A better option is to tell a re-imagining based off of the comic.
Here's an idea, introduce a new character. Create a back-story for him. His deal? ... He's not infected, and he's actually immune. Oh look! ... Realistic hope for the future! How about that! Writing that's actually creative, interesting, and diverges from the comic completely. Yeah, now it's no longer a crappy soap-opera anymore.
The Producers plain and simply screwed up with the whole "Everyone is infected thing."
So basically no hope whatsoever. Why would anyone go on? Why would anyone even take in someone elderly if they might die of old age, come back as a walker inside their camp, and randomly start killing before they could be put down?
Here's the thing, you can't make the show exactly like the comic. You can't even have the show mirror the comic in many ways. Otherwise, why would folks tune in to watch? No. A better option is to tell a re-imagining based off of the comic.
Here's an idea, introduce a new character. Create a back-story for him. His deal? ... He's not infected, and he's actually immune. Oh look! ... Realistic hope for the future! How about that! Writing that's actually creative, interesting, and diverges from the comic completely. Yeah, now it's no longer a crappy soap-opera anymore.
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He got bit about a year ago. Instead of the virus taking over the cells in his body at a rapid pace and turning him into a walker, something in his system violently attacked the activation of the infection at the site of the bite. It then spread to the rest of his body. Violently altering his infected cells to the point of immunity. Altering them so much, that the walkers can't recognize him as "food." Instead, they see him as one of them. They leave him alone. They might accidentally bump into him as they would into another walker. But that's about it. Something unknown in his blood is a potential cure! ... And there are others who know about him. French researches in America. And they're willing to pay a very high price for him. As long as he's alive. He's got a bounty on his head. Hunted by mercenaries working for both money (which will come back into fashion once certain individuals are cured), and free injections of the cure (once it is refined after his blood is analyzed).
Thing is, no one knows what he looks like. Other than for a certain tattoo.
Part of the season is spent trying to figure out which newly introduced character he is. And yes, I also have a way of introducing several new characters into the show in a non-cheesy way!
I definitely thought this through. Far more exciting and riveting than folks dropping dead from symptoms of the common flu because they lack even basic meds.
Hell, I even have a concept for a mind-blowing reveal involving a character originally introduced in Season 1. So mind-blowingly awesome that it would trump the whole, "Who shot JR?" controversy on Dallas all those many years ago. I mean, it would be perfect! It would be horrific! No one would see it coming. Meanwhile, the producers during Season 1 left that character in such a state that his return who horrify die-hard fans of the show who were watching since episode one. A little something special for the die-hard fans only. Something like the last episode of "MI-5." Die hard fans recognized that guy at the end. Just before Harry picks up the phone. Newer fans had no clue who he was or the significance of his appearance. That type of mind-blowing reveal.
He got bit about a year ago. Instead of the virus taking over the cells in his body at a rapid pace and turning him into a walker, something in his system violently attacked the activation of the infection at the site of the bite. It then spread to the rest of his body. Violently altering his infected cells to the point of immunity. Altering them so much, that the walkers can't recognize him as "food." Instead, they see him as one of them. They leave him alone. They might accidentally bump into him as they would into another walker. But that's about it. Something unknown in his blood is a potential cure! ... And there are others who know about him. French researches in America. And they're willing to pay a very high price for him. As long as he's alive. He's got a bounty on his head. Hunted by mercenaries working for both money (which will come back into fashion once certain individuals are cured), and free injections of the cure (once it is refined after his blood is analyzed).
Thing is, no one knows what he looks like. Other than for a certain tattoo.
Part of the season is spent trying to figure out which newly introduced character he is. And yes, I also have a way of introducing several new characters into the show in a non-cheesy way!
I definitely thought this through. Far more exciting and riveting than folks dropping dead from symptoms of the common flu because they lack even basic meds.
Hell, I even have a concept for a mind-blowing reveal involving a character originally introduced in Season 1. So mind-blowingly awesome that it would trump the whole, "Who shot JR?" controversy on Dallas all those many years ago. I mean, it would be perfect! It would be horrific! No one would see it coming. Meanwhile, the producers during Season 1 left that character in such a state that his return who horrify die-hard fans of the show who were watching since episode one. A little something special for the die-hard fans only. Something like the last episode of "MI-5." Die hard fans recognized that guy at the end. Just before Harry picks up the phone. Newer fans had no clue who he was or the significance of his appearance. That type of mind-blowing reveal.
skyfire
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Re: The Walking Dead
finally got around to watching the latest episode, it was better than the last, but i agree with you about spending time developing a character only to have no development at all. it seems hes right back to his old governor self, just with a different group of people.
how can martinez let his guard down like that? i thought it was a zombie apocalypse? the writing...:sigh:
your idea of somebody being immune reminds me of "the last of us". just its premise, since i havent gotten around to finishing it. but still, it would make for a more interesting story than what they have going on. and yes, introduce characters that are more interesting that can drive the story would help.
i also like that they didnt follow the comic book story closely. it creates more unpredictable events. i love the sin city comics, and having read them made the sin city movie a little bit boring at times. but it was nice that it really stayed true to the comic.
but what they did with the potential for the "walking dead" is really disappointing. ill try and stay hopeful the writers can turn it around.
finally got around to watching the latest episode, it was better than the last, but i agree with you about spending time developing a character only to have no development at all. it seems hes right back to his old governor self, just with a different group of people.
how can martinez let his guard down like that? i thought it was a zombie apocalypse? the writing...:sigh:
your idea of somebody being immune reminds me of "the last of us". just its premise, since i havent gotten around to finishing it. but still, it would make for a more interesting story than what they have going on. and yes, introduce characters that are more interesting that can drive the story would help.
i also like that they didnt follow the comic book story closely. it creates more unpredictable events. i love the sin city comics, and having read them made the sin city movie a little bit boring at times. but it was nice that it really stayed true to the comic.
but what they did with the potential for the "walking dead" is really disappointing. ill try and stay hopeful the writers can turn it around.
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LOL Monocrom, You're hired!
LOL Monocrom, You're hired!
