bigburly912
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You need to carry pepper spray or a gun. A flashlight won't help you.
Are there Any lights.that get super hot?
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knucklegary
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I carry pistol shot loads cause predators don't usually stand still.
Or, try carrying a marine air horn? That way you won't accidentally shoot someones dog by mistake 🤞
Or, try carrying a marine air horn? That way you won't accidentally shoot someones dog by mistake 🤞
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I'm picking.a.brand.of.spray now. I'm.a.senior so the light will help me see them. My State isn't real gun friendly. 
knucklegary
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Buy a Malkoff M61HOT you won't regret it.. and try this stuff, recommended by local sheriff's..
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This should help, after that you just need to find something to put it on.
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Wish a.gun was,a possibility
I'd recommend going with the larger (mini fire-extinguisher sized) canister of dedicated Bear Pepperspray. Such a spray usually comes with a holster, and has enough content to spray a very wide area in case you encounter more than one dangerous critter. Such as a pack of wolves. For that reason, I'd recommend staying away from gels. Those are great for one predator. But not multiple ones.
knucklegary
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Are we sure the predators are four legged animals?
Edit: Bear size canister works for me 👍
bigburly912
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If you go with bear spray get a good one like counter assault. If it doesn't stop whatever you spray it at then it's just meant to be your time to get attacked. Good luck and I hope you have many many many more miles of walking ahead of you
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Spray is a tricky thing to use, you may get some of it back at yourself, not something you want durings an encounter with a wildlife. there are other means besides a gun, not as effective but maybe just enough to get away, in combination with a bright flashlight. We do not know if wildlife he encounters is aggressive, or whether or not he wants to hurt it.
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Thanks for the thought. I'm considering maybe just changing where I walk to.another trail that is super wide and well maintained.
Walking alone at twilight or darkness is not advised. A flashlight might get you some moments but in the case of a mountain lion or 2 legged, they will come up from behind. Do you have a dog? That can help. Another vote for large can pepper spray. We have Counter Assault but also the marine/sport horn available. Our stun gun gets the dogs´ attention; just the sound (don´t keep the button down more than a second or so unless you are contacting an assailant, it is not good for the contacts) gets another moment for initiative. A decent quality stungun will be rechargeable. I tested it on myself and it HURTS.
Best part of getting something designed for stopping a huge 4-legged predator like a bear, it'll work on the 2-legged ones who mimic the appearance of human-beings.
I've oftentimes taught beginner students on self-defense.
Lesson #1 ~ You literally cannot defend your life without hurting your attacker. Physically impossible to do so. Doesn't matter if that attacker has two legs or four. A powerful light is useful for identifying something off in the distance or checking a long, straight trail at night. Just like a human-being, shinning a light in an animals face might cause it to stop and turn its head away for a split-second. But even a primitive animal has enough sense to keep its eyes closed and charge straight ahead at the last location it remembers it saw its target.
But after lesson #1, I tell any students who wish to leave; please do so now because I can't spend hours re-wiring their thought process after years or decades of that horribly ingrained belief. Wouldn't be fair to waste the time of the other students.
Whether it's a bullet to their gut or a blast of pepper spray to the eyes, either way; you're hurting that animal in order to stop its attack on you. As far as what's more humane, folks forget that individuals have ended up blind after taking a massive blast of pepper spray to the eyes. I mean permanently blind. Doesn't always happen. But happens enough. Personally, if that person who got blasted in the face was trying to kill or horribly injure another person; yeah not much sympathy from me.
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Oh I absolutely agree, you have to hurt/cause pain, what i'm saying is spray may backfire on you, other means i meant other means that hurt, for op gun is not an option, but other means maybe are, i just don't think this thread will go on for much longer if we start discussing those.
bigburly912
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good bear spray launches about 20-40 feet. Some of the cheap stuff just mists out a cloud.
knucklegary
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Agreed, if shooting into breeze, you're going cuss up and down.. Gel is least likely to backfire but shooter needs to be close enough on target not to miss
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My manker Mk38vn and stock Mk38 give 4 hours in general mode (1000 lumens) and the batteries end up at 3.7v
