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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    Well that is better than results we have achieved here with 200+ cells. Heat and mismatch have everything to do with this. Best we have done here is a small venting with nothing spectacular besides. We did get a Sanyo to vent but that was all. I sure hope people understand that this is not a...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    I would be happy to supply him with anything he needs.
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    I can send him an old style Pelican M6 as I have a few donated here by CPFers and Pelican. My tests here have involved an almost completely depleted cell along with a fresh cell and NewBie has been using a slightly depleted cell along with a fresh 100% cell. I shall alter some experiments...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    Our testing has focused on primaries. The RCR-123A we sell is both low voltage protected to protect the battery but also short circuit protected to protect the customer. I have yet to see an issue with the RCR-123A that would warrant any concern. They seem to be overly safe as we say. I am...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    No I have not tried that one. I have turned them off and on a few times, but just for no reason other than making sure they were all the way on or tight. The one thing that WILL continue is the testing. That is the one single thing that COULD be eliminated as a failure option with nothing...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    I just shipped a requested box to Steve. Not sure why he has not posted here for a while but he is fine. I forgot this last weekend was Field Day and so only got 4 tests done of about a dozen we wanted to do. All failed. I used two original Pelican M6 lights this time and left the G2 alone...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    One of the main reasons we have stayed away from Lithium Polymers is this very thing. Check out Polymers. There are at least if not more occurances of this happening in that chemistry. So we are hypocrites here in only dealing with "mildly dangerous?" batteries I guess. It is a dead horse...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    Yes they have PTC protection. They would never pass UL or any other tests without it. I just short circuited one here on my Fluke DMM and at about 7 amps it got hot and the current slowly dropped to under 1 amp until I let the cell cool off. In another thread I noted that out of 40 samples...
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    Cyclops Flashlight Explosion

    In all this CR123A research and testing, I just happened to notice that I had just received my first load of Sanyos that said Made In China. No joke. I had never received them before that were made there. New factory I guess. I understand Sanyo is shifting a large part of their manufacturing...
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    Cyclops Flashlight Explosion

    FYI- Almost EVERY brand of CR123A is now made in China including Sanyo so I would be hesitant to make a blanket statement about China. I will say that out of 40 companies that supplied us samples three years ago, 30 were just outright crap. 13 did not even have PTC protection. Do beware of...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    Yes, please do. I will send you a new one for it. I was just letting everyone know that Pelican is also sending one over. I would like to compare the two and see if there are any differences up real close.
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    In addition to testing, Pelican has also been kind enough to send me a few old style M6 lights. They are in route here. I kinda shifted gears on the tests after talking at length with Lunar Friday night. I was planning all these radical tests that by his opinion did not really duplicate the...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    I was there when we put a small piece in a beaker and watched it burn bright green like an arc welder. I was not there when the piece was taken out of the kerosene and ignited on the desk, but did see the hold in the desk and floor. It did happen and it did scare me to death. It produced the...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    The week of the accident, we tried numerous mixes of our batteries in a PM6 but it was not the old style. After all of these, I decided to try different batteries. I would be happy to pay for or trade a new one for an old one to do the suggested experiment. We are also video taping and have...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    We were rained out here Saturday. We got two of four tests done today and will attempt the other two after work some day this week. Test #1 was a pair of Energizers in a Pelican M6 incan. Not old style but still got hot. One cell was started "dead". It read about 2V and would not light...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    I just spent an hour+ on the phone with Lunar and he is doing great. Back to normal he says. He will catch up later.
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    Just for giggles I ran a set dead in the Hellfire that was a 10% and 100% mix. Nothing special happened. After the light went out and cooled, I dumped out the batteries. An hour later, I took the front one and ZTS tested it and it read but did not light anything. It ran the test LEDs back...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    Absolutely NOT!!! I have a LOT of flashlights here to choose from for attempted destruction. This thing has just begun. Lunar has donated enough already! I just want the safest flashlights and batteries money can buy (and sell). We will be offering SF batteries on the CPF page in about a...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    Anyone that has what they feel to be "junk" can email me for replacements that have been tested and drop what they have in the trash or send them back. No questions. Just email me. I would note that in this frenzy here of testing CR123A batteries over the last week with the ZTS tester, I have...
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    ROAR of the Pelican (CR123 Explosion during use, firsthand account)

    We are compiling a list of the lights and combinations we are going to attempt this Saturday. I hope to have a variety covered. We will use a "new" M6 incan and a Surefire G2 as guinea pigs. We currently plan to do mixed pairs of several percentages, preheated batteries by blue oven, and...
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