1,400 watt 28,000 Lumen White LED Array

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February 8, 2005...Lamina Ceramics of Westhampton, New Jersey USA has announced the development of what they're terming an ultrahigh lumen LED white light engine that's 14 times brighter than previously demonstrated white light LED array. The 28,000 lumen solid-state device is 5 inches square and is powered by 1,400 watts.

Lamina is calling this newest white light engine "Aterion White" and it's comprised of 1,120 LEDs with a 5,500°K color-corrected temperature (CCT)
 
...and in order to keep the heatsink a managable size, you need to expend an additional 700 watts cooling it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin07.gif
 
20 lm/W? Not very impressive. They should have used more dice driven at less current and they probably could have gotten 28,000 lumens with less than 700 watts. As idleprocess said, the heatsinking requirements for this are ridiculous. In fact, for an array of this power density and power output I think the only practical solution is liquid cooling. And if the liquid is recirculated instead of just taken from the tap and thrown away you'll need something like an air conditioner heat exchanger for proper cooling. Interesting I suppose if you need a huge amount of light with little heat in a small area, but not of any practical use for most other applications. Yeah, 28,000 lumens is about right for lighting an average-sized room, but it's better if it's distributed evenly across the entire ceiling rather than a near point source.

On the other hand, a bunch of BL-1000 arrays on a 1/4" thick aluminum ceiling (maybe 3 per square foot) would be properly heatsunk and would give well in excess of 32,000 lumens in a 100 ft² room. This might be of some use if you just want to demonstrate lighting a room with LEDs. Or perhaps use liquid cooling and cover the entire ceiling with the arrays. That would be maybe one array per inch² and over 1.5 million total lumens in the same room. Definitely good for a solar simulator. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I imagine that this is more a demonstrator product than something real, although I imagine it could see use replacing streetlights, floodlights, work lights, and theater lights. Maybe also use on shop floors replacing "bay" lights.

Imagine the beam if it could somehow be collimated ... ... wow.

Active cooling of some sort would definitely be necessary unless it's coupled to something tremndously heavy with obscene surface area. ~1000-1200 watts is a great deal of heat to waste. Maybe it stands in for the traditional element in a water heater? Seems a shame to conduct all that heat away when something of use could be done with it - perhaps run a small generator to recapture some of the electricity /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin07.gif

28,000 lumens would be a blinding amount of light in a small room.
 
February 8, 2005...Lamina Ceramics of Westhampton, New Jersey USA announces their new space heater cum lighting product. This revolutionary approach replaces both failure-prone incandescent lighting and the need for a heating system in workspaces and recreational spaces. With 1200W of power and 28K lumens of pure white light, it accurately recreates summer, minus the suntan.....

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For the humor challenged (in case they are watching) the above is a spoof and intended as humor only.. but yeah, once upon a time, a few of my friends and I used waste computer heat as room heating. It worked pretty well too, although granted it was not that cold outside. Of course, nowadays, with Pentium 4s and AMD64s, who needs old fashioned heaters any more.. crank up the Folding@Home and let's burn some silicon!

In an interesting twist, LEDs and computers share both their origins (silicon) and thermal issues....
 
Interesting-1120 LEDs or more likely 1120 cavities each with six dies as the regular arrays are. That would put the power per die at 208 mW, which explains the somewhat low efficiency. I'm guessing they simply kept increasing the power until the array didn't generate any more light.

Practical uses of this array in a home: you can use a water-cooled heat sink and dump the water into a preheat tank which then feeds the regular water heater. You'll get the water temp up a few degrees thereby saving an equal amount of energy from the water heating element. In effect the energy to power the array is "free" since it's being used to do something which would be done anyway. Couple it with a dimmer for those times you need <28000 lumens and you have a complete home lighting/hot water preheating/suntanning system. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

As an aside, since LEDs are easily dimmable I think once they become cheap it's not a bad idea to install 30,000 lumens in an average room. It's nice to be able to get the room super bright even if you seldom use that capability. My 77 ft² workroom has 14,000 lumens in fluorescents. When the four GE Chroma 50s go I'll replace them with some 3600 lumen full-spectrum lamps and have about 19,000 lumens. This really isn't too much when you're doing close work.
 
Lamina seems to have the first part of the process down - making a package that contains a massive die array and transfers the heat from the dice efficiently enough to keep their junction temps sane.

Now it's time for the next step - optimizing the dice, phosphors (for white LEDs, obviously), and power requirements to produce the most light per watt. With Luxeons at 25lm/W and some white-LED makers claiming upwards of 40lm/W, Lamina should soon be able to crank out more and more efficient light "engines," not just brighter ones with more dice in them.

oO
 
It would be interesting to see the emission spectrum of this array. Could this be close to artificial sunlight, from LEDs? It has a CRI of 80.. better than the 60 of my metal halide floodlight.
 
I saw it today for a few minutes - I even looked directly at it - of couse, it was turned off. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

It looks like it is being designed for street light replacements.
 
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Lamina seems to have the first part of the process down - making a package that contains a massive die array and transfers the heat from the dice efficiently enough to keep their junction temps sane.

Now it's time for the next step - optimizing the dice, phosphors (for white LEDs, obviously), and power requirements to produce the most light per watt. With Luxeons at 25lm/W and some white-LED makers claiming upwards of 40lm/W, Lamina should soon be able to crank out more and more efficient light "engines," not just brighter ones with more dice in them.

oO

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Cree has already blown through the 40lm/W barrier, with parts you can already purchase....
 
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NewBie said:Cree has already blown through the 40lm/W barrier, with parts you can already purchase....

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My point exactly. Now all we need is for someone (Lamina perhaps?) to pull all of the latest improvements together and make the LED world's next "Luxeon." /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
oddone: maybe the reason why lamina dropped their prices so much is because they will be introducing a more efficient light engine soon ( possibly the ones roithner-laser are stocking, i have sent them an e-mail to check whether the 840 lumens @ 21W is for the red of white but they have not replied yet )

Newbie: have u tried the cree 60lm/W LED's yet ? or has someone else tried them ?
 
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