100W HID in a thor 15mcp

I used to work security at a newly built apartment complex.
There were 100 watt Metal Halide lights that really were unbelievably bright there once they were installed and lit.
The cheap 175 watt mercury vapor lights next door were hopelessly outclassed by these.
I had been wanting to put one of those metal halides in a thor.

Fair warning though, 10,000+ lumens will definitely get attention where ever you light it up.
 
Anyone have an idea of were you could get a 100w HID kit that would work in the 15MCP thor?
I think I could handle 10,000 lumens /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
The multitap ballast I saw in those 100 watt Metal halides didn't look too massive.
I'm really beginning to wonder if a 12 volt ballast couldn't fit in a bigger 15mc thor.
 
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I'm looking into setting up a group buy for 75 watt HID bulbs and ballasts...but don't get excited yet. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Any details on the lamp rated lumens, single or double ended, arc gap length or just a crumb to keep us happy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
We must have info!!!!!!!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/huh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
why stop at 100 watts

go for the gold - 150 watts 12000 lumens

10 11ah nimh d cells would power it for at least 30 minutes.
 
the thor 15mcp have a big battery so i prefer a HID with more than 75W...

100W at minimum but up to 200W is awesome /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

(also because i want to differentiate more from my next mag 4D that will output around 5000lm)
 
I have a 200w HMI bulb and the arc capsule is as big as a grape. I think you'd sacrifice the super tight focus you get with the tiny automotive bulbs, but there is no doubt you'd have massive lumen output. I just wonder if it would reduce a Thor to a pool of melted plastic. Guess there is only one way to find out.


cfb
 
Im not sure which bulb you have lotsalumens but most of the smaller theatre-studio bulbs are a short (3-5mm) arc which is the same as the DS2 types, so the throw and focus would be excellent.

Heat is a possible issue, for sure you would get some run time before things got real toasty but you could cut some vent slots in the plastic case or even stick in a small cpu size cooling fan.... the ballast throws out a fair amount of heat too....finding a small-cheap ballast would be by far the biggest challenge...the magnetic ballasts are big and heavy and the electronic ones are pricey to say the least.

If one had the technical know-how to make an electonic powersupply that ran off of DC, then that could fit in the housing...then the battery could be remote-corded

finally...if all that came together...you would have the brightest, and longest throwing hand-held in CPF
 
DFI,

Battery in the 15 mcp Thor is the same, 7 amps, I was hoping it was larger too.

lots and java,

I thought surface brightness determines throw, so it wouldn't make a difference, a grape sized 200 watt HID may be the same as a tiny spot of a 35 watt HID when it comes to throw.

3rd shift,

At 75 or 150 watts, I'd worry about heat from the ballast and the bulb next to it all mixing together in a closed space. As Shrek says, "better outside than in".
 
A short arc hmi has a higher cd/cm^2 (surface brightness) than a low wattage hid..now this is assuming it is a short arc and the arc tube is clear..the arc tube may be grape sized but the light comes from the gap between the electrodes..if the arc tube is a translucent ceramic...then the surface brightess is less and the effective area is larger which would limit the throw and focusablility of the lamp
 
jm,

er, well you know more than I, and I will sit back and read. But, there was a post about 150 watt HIDs, now, is that fact or fiction? Short arc HMI, well, driven by 12 or 24 volts,....I can't even think any more.
 

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