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Glad I found this thread and not sure how I missed it. I have been wanting a HD 18650 and pounced when they came available recently. After ordering to my dismay I noticed it was listed as only 700 Lm, but the Lux was massively higher. In passing I had read it before ordering but wasn't thinking straight and it dawned on me that the older HD 18650 put out more light and this one was called the XT like the blasty scout heads.
I am now very excited to say the least.

I will compare and post beam shots with some other blasty Malkoffs in the next week or so.
 

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Yes this new 18650 is ALL throw. And it does that very well. But as you say it's nothing like the older 18650 HD. That had much more spill but not nearly as much throw. I posted a few comparisons with them not best pictures but might give you a clue.
 

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I saw them and am excited. I thought they were great pictures that illustrated the difference between HD 18650s. Those pictures got me excited.

I will post my results when I get the light. Thanks!
 

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Your more then welcome. I think it all depends on what your looking for as they are very different lights. For trails and woods my 18650 HD is better. But for longer work or field use the XT stomps it. It does have spill but not as useful as the older 18650. Different lights both very good at what they were designed for.
 

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I live in farm country. Looking forward to the arrival of the Red today.
 
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I live in farm country. Looking forward to the arrival of the Red today.

Mail-Individual brought me my new Hound Dog 18650 XT Red today. I got out and did some beam shots with some other Malkoffs for comparison. The CW version is en route and I will be doing some stuff with that when it comes. I was a bit rushed so sorry for the poor quality.

All lights were powered with fully charged high-drain 18650s, with the exception of the MDC, which was using a 16340.

Some notes: Red does not photograph well, at least not with my limited skills and iPhone. But I am more impressed than I expected to be with this Red version. We have a lot of cats around and I was catching their eyes all over the place with this light. Additionally it really lights up the woods better than pictures show. Highly impressed. It should work well to assist in identifying and dispatching varmints. Future tests will be done at greater distances.

A little UV fun at the end too.

Hope these are helpful to someone.


https://imgur.com/a/PxXZeWg
 

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The HOT is really a great all-arounder. I like them all but the HOT gets a lot of use and is carried frequently.
 

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It wasn't the best night for beam shots due to pollen/ particulate in the air. However I was able to get a couple anyway. I started off chasing some coyotes and deer and ended up in spots I wasn't familiar with distances in.

The 18650 XT was only tested with the 1 degree diffuser due to time. It out throws the Super, but has less spill as will be seen in photos.

Both are great, and the portability of the XT really adds value.

Ran the XT on a 30Q and the Super on Double 3500 MAh10A Orbtronics.

https://imgur.com/a/zfoY9CE
 

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Great shots. I have been using my new HD the last couple of nights and it really is a nice setup. Because of the high lux it's plenty useful on low for walking and 200 yards is a no brainer for it. It does get out there. That being said I am glad I grabbed the last version 18650 HD when they were still available. It is much more useful at closer ranges with much more spill but doesn't come close to the new boy with throw.
 

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It is quite fantastic. For my uses the Super and XT are ideal. I look forward to doing additional testing with the 5 degree diffuser and no diffuser. I'm guessing that the 5 degree diffuser won't get much use and with no diffuser it will be more of a small throw beam.

The Super even in the Cool tint is much warmer than the XT. I'm not too concerned with tint in a thrower, but the CRI is better with the Super to my eye, which is helpful when looking over valleys in fields and identifying deer vs Coyote at a few hundred yards.

TG, do you have the ability to measure how how many amps the XT is pulling? I'd like to know for battery selection. Since it is direct drive I wanted to give it as much as I could with the 30Q. I'd doubt it need more than 10-15 amps but I'd like a number if possible.

May just need to buy a meter.
 

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I do and have done that. Just can't remember what the number was😁😁 I'll check today and let you know. If memory serves it was in the 2-2.5 amp range.
 

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I'd appreciate it. I have an ooooold analog multimeter that just can't be accurate. If it is only drawing 2-3 amps that would be fantastic. No need for fancy batteries.
 

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My 18650 XT is pulling 2.8 A on high and 135 MA on low with a keeppower 18650/3500
 

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Thanks TG! I was thinking since it was direct drive it might be thirstier, but still is pretty reasonable for 10A capable 18650s.
 

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Yes and at only 130-140 ma draw on low means she's got a pretty long runtime as well.
 

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I didn't take any pictures this evening, but I did take the XT out without any diffuser in it just to see what it would do.

Lots of pollen/ particulate in the air so pictures at distance won't turn out great. What I did test was low mode, and I'd like to get some pictures on a more clear night.

On low and no diffuser the XT will punch as far as my M61 HOT. It will provide about the same amount of light at 106 yards. The HOT obviously has loads more spill and is brighter, but the throw of the XT on low is pretty incredible.

Even with the pollen in the air I was shooting it across some fields and lighting up a hedge of tree tops over 260 yds away on High.

With no diffuser the light has a lot of rings in the spill that are very evident within the first 50 yards if there is something for the light to land on. Otherwise there is a big hot spot really pushing out there. I may just run it this way and sacrifice some spill quality for the extra punch.

Really digging this new head. Looking forward to a clear night.
 

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Hi everybody, I got my 18650 xt a few days ago and I'm still giddy. I live in forested mountains and the bears are in full form, broke a little gate recently, etc, so I am quite happy to have this directed beam of nice, throwy light. Nightfall has been neat. It is like the Wave Motion Gun. Love it.
 
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