2,000++ lumens for mountain bike

[mmateusz]

I'm looking for a upgrade to my mountain bike lamps:
My current setup includes 3 lights:
Convoy S2+ - nice wide beam
Lumintop B01 - long range (+ is good for road/city)
Skilhunt H04S - on the helmet - spot for illuminating corners on winding paths + illuminating details, when needed

It's a nice set, it produces almost 2,000 lumens, and each of these flashlights also has non-cycling applications.

What do you recommend to change or add to this setup, so there is much more light?
Convoy S21, BL70s?

 

[DaveTheDude]

Lucifer L+
Sustained output of 3500 lumens, at 4500k.

Lucifer X
Sustained output of 5000 lumens, at 4500k.

Lucifer Ultra
Sustained output of 8000 lumens, also at 4500k.

All Lucifer LED's are hand selected for the highest bin and best color rendering.

 

[alpg88]

What is the question, whether you need more light? Does your set up work for you so far? do you think it lacks something?
I use modified D10 as a bike light and a headlamp, I got like half a dozen of them, all about 1000lm. So about 2000lm combined as well, I feel i got more than enough light, but if you ask someone else, some may say, he has no need for so much light, few hundred lumens is plenty, others may say, that is not nearly enough, you need at least 5000lm..... It is not a direct science, it s more of an art, every rider is an artists and they see thigs differently.

I used to have a fenix bc30, it was pretty bright, but i lost it, then I tried to build a light for my bike, so I made a 4x xml light bar, I did not like the result, too much light upfront made me almost blind when I looked anywhere but straight ahead, so I removed the lightbar, and printed a bike mount for a D10, (a single led headlamp about 1000lm modified), and use another headlamp to look where bike light does not shine. So even thou lighting maybe an individual issue, but using several sources of light is pretty common around cyclists.

One thing i would want is to have a bike light with an optic like in a cars headlight, not a cone of light like with common flashlight optic, cuz more often than not, at night we have pretty high humidity, and there is plenty of moisture in the air, aka fog, and that cone of light illuminates it, and creates reflections that are actually preventing you to see, the more lumens the more the it reflects back to you. I can only imagine what 8000lm will feel like on a foggy/humid night, reflected right back at you. But i have no idea where you ride, and if you have that humidity/fog issue, if not then high lumens will work for you.

 

[tech25]

I don't have one yet but Outbound Lighting has bike lights with optics specifically for road use.

 

[alpg88]

Not quite, they use classic tir lenses, smooth and faceted, it is either a cone or a line, or a combination of them, but the light distribution is not like a cars headlight. you can see the beam shape somewhat in their video.

This is what i'm talking about, these use clamshell reflectors, thou this one is a dirt cheap, like 3 bucks, it has a right idea of light distribution, of course for such price it will not be a great light, but i have seen such design with better quality bike lights

 

[tech25]

Not quite, they use classic tir lenses, smooth and faceted, it is either a cone or a line, or a combination of them, but the light distribution is not like a cars headlight. you can see the beam shape somewhat in their video.

This is what i'm talking about, these use clamshell reflectors, thou this one is a dirt cheap, like 3 bucks, it has a right idea of light distribution, of course for such price it will not be a great light, but i have seen such design with better quality bike lights

Even the Detour or the discontinued Road edition?

I'm not sure but it looks like what you're looking for.

 

[alpg88]

Even the Detour or the discontinued Road edition?

I'm not sure but it looks like what you're looking for.

Yes, those models have the clamshell reflectors, the rest are classic tir optics.
The website will not show this model up close unless you click on them and scroll thru pictures, that is why i missed it the first time.
That is a light I would buy for my bike, thou it is only 1200lm it does put all the light on the road instead of everywhere.

 

[mrsteel]

The Niterider Pro series is what the police use on all their bikes around me. I can't attest to their customer service and reliability directly, but the lights have survived on some very heavily used bikes, and they seem pretty well built while staying lightweight and there is some good options for batteries to lengthen the runtime.

I haven't really been able to compare them to anything side by side so I can't attest to beam quality & tint which IMO is helpful for nighttime mountain biking.