200-300 OTF/ pockatable/ <$60

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im looking for an incan to add to my collection... id like something with around 200-300 OTF lumen under $60 and possible to edc in my pocket preferably running on cr123 or aa/aaa

anyone have any light to shed on my application lol


update: well i bit the bullet and am buying a 9p... and im thinking about an LF EO-9... anyone have a beamshot?
 
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Take a look at the Quark regular 123. With newer model with XP-G emitter, it puts out just a speck over 200 OTF and it's in the price range. I don't , but could easily carry mine in my pocket. I use this for pocket carry of my mini123 and would work with the regular 123.
http://www.tecaccessories.com/products/product.php?II=27

Edit: Sorry, just saw the OP's request was for an incandescent light. My suggestion was for a LED light.
 
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Try a Surefire E2e with a Lumensfactory IMR bulb and two AW IMR batteries. This will around the output you desire.

E2e can be had for around $50-60, perhaps on the marketplace or at your friendly neighborhood dealer.
 
Try a Surefire E2e with a Lumensfactory IMR bulb and two AW IMR batteries. This will around the output you desire.

E2e can be had for around $50-60, perhaps on the marketplace or at your friendly neighborhood dealer.

Ideally the IMR bulb is used with a twisty tailcap, the higher current can kill the stock clicky switch.

A 2*IMR16340 is certainly the minimum you would need for a higher output and compact Incan.
 
Take a look at the Quark regular 123. With newer model with XP-G emitter, it puts out just a speck over 200 OTF and it's in the price range. I don't , but could easily carry mine in my pocket. I use this for pocket carry of my mini123 and would work with the regular 123.
http://www.tecaccessories.com/products/product.php?II=27

Edit: Sorry, just saw the OP's request was for an incandescent light. My suggestion was for a LED light.


i actually have a quark 123-2 tactical r5 edition coming soon :twothumbs
 
The under $60 price point is the hard spec to meet. Ignoring it, a SureFire 6P, FiveMega D26 Sunlight, Welch-Allyn WA01111-U bi-pin bulb, and 2xIMR16340 should be able to meet the OTF lumens requirement. With such a setup, you definitely want to use a LOTC if you pocket the light. This is not a light you want to turn on accidentally in your pants pocket.
 
A G3 or 9P with a P91 on primaries will meet your requirements, at least for the cost of the light (the P91 will cost extra).

I can't think of any pocketable AA light that will do that for you. You could build a ROP low maglite based on AAs, or a 2C powered by 3x CR123a's, but those are not pocketable by my standards. There's also the Princeton Tec Surge if they still make it.
 
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If you have big pockets (like a jacket pocket), I just built a 2D Mag mod that uses a Kiu socket, a JimmyM regulator, and a tailcap mod to fit 3xIMR26500. I plan to run a Welch-Allyn WA01111-U bulb at 7.3V. Unfortunately, this is another option that exceeds your $60 price point.
 
The Lumens Factory EO-E2R lamp is rated at 150 bulb lumens, and you can drive it with regular 16340s and use an SF E-series clicky (unlike the LF IMR-E2). However, I personally don't find these relatively small increases in output vs the stock SF E2 lamp to deliver much gain. Converting to OTF lumens, that 150 lumen figure drops by quite a lot, and compared to the 60 lumen output of the stock SF lamp, I'm not all that impressed. YMMV.

Here is yet another option that meets your first two requirements (but not the $60 price point) -- SureFire E2 host, Z46 bezel, OpticsHQ E2M adapter, MN11 lamp, 2xIMR16340. See this. This should deliver at least 300 OTF lumens. Like with the LF IMR-E2, you probably should use a Z52 tailcap, not a clicky.

I measured 2.6A tailcap draw using 2xIMR16340 cells to drive the SF MN11 lamp. If we assume 500mAh capacity, the run time looks like about 10 minutes. A bit short.

Hot spot lux at 1 meter measured 11,000 lux.
 
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Don't waste your money on the seraph look up the skyray on. Dealextreme. If you bump it past $60 seriously consider the wa1111, fm sunlight, 2x imr suggestion.
 
Lighthound.com has L2 "empty" hosts (no lamp or LED module is included): $12.99.

This should be your starting point as it's a known reasonable quality host at a great price. The host will support tons of D26 drop-ins and different battery configurations through extensions and such.

You should consider a 3xCR123 length setup to achieve the output you are after if you are really wanting to run CR123s (that will require a 1xCR123 extention). Look at your rechargeable options if at all possible. Operating a 200+ lumen incan on CR123s will get expensive fast unless you don't plan to use it much. A 2xIMR16340 setup without the extension can actually do anything the 3xCR123 configuration can do safely and more, just with less runtime, but it's rechargeable. ~200-300 torch lumens is attainable in that 2xIMR16340 config, but runtime will be down in the 10 minute range. The EO-9 will deliver over 200 torch lumens fresh off the charger, or with fresh cells, through the discharge you can expect to drop below the 200 mark at some time.

Personally, I would shoot for a 2x18500 (AW protected) (same as the 3xCR123 length configuration) size light. Also, personally, I'd slap a D36 conversion head on there from LumensFactory and run something like the SR-9L, maybe the HO-9L or something like that. Those lamps on a pair of 18500s are just really great outdoors and move lumens down-wind so much better than D26 lamps. (peak beam lux of a D36 lamp assembly is on average more than double an equivalent power D26 lamp). The increased beam intensity in my experience off-sets the need for more raw lumens in outdoor settings. The SR-9L will run for a good 45+ minutes on either 2x18500 or 3xCR123s in the same host and is more competent in outdoor applications than any D26 you can run, even though it would only qualify as maybe a 160 "surefire lumen" light.

Everything I have mentioned above can be ordered through lighthound. If you decide to do a 18mm diameter li-ion setup, you will need to make sure that the 1xCR123 extensions that they sell are cut to 19mm inside diameter, some out there are and some aren't. Also, you would need to pick up a charger if you go with a li-ion rechargeable setup, and personally, I don't much care for the li-ion chargers they have available there at this time. I would suggest doing some more poking around on CPF if you are leaning in that rechargeable direction and see where you can turn to get something decent.

Let me know if I have totally just added a heap of confusion here.

Eric
 
Lighthound.com has L2 "empty" hosts (no lamp or LED module is included): $12.99.

This should be your starting point as it's a known reasonable quality host at a great price. The host will support tons of D26 drop-ins and different battery configurations through extensions and such.

You should consider a 3xCR123 length setup to achieve the output you are after if you are really wanting to run CR123s (that will require a 1xCR123 extention). Look at your rechargeable options if at all possible. Operating a 200+ lumen incan on CR123s will get expensive fast unless you don't plan to use it much. A 2xIMR16340 setup without the extension can actually do anything the 3xCR123 configuration can do safely and more, just with less runtime, but it's rechargeable. ~200-300 torch lumens is attainable in that 2xIMR16340 config, but runtime will be down in the 10 minute range. The EO-9 will deliver over 200 torch lumens fresh off the charger, or with fresh cells, through the discharge you can expect to drop below the 200 mark at some time.

Personally, I would shoot for a 2x18500 (AW protected) (same as the 3xCR123 length configuration) size light. Also, personally, I'd slap a D36 conversion head on there from LumensFactory and run something like the SR-9L, maybe the HO-9L or something like that. Those lamps on a pair of 18500s are just really great outdoors and move lumens down-wind so much better than D26 lamps. (peak beam lux of a D36 lamp assembly is on average more than double an equivalent power D26 lamp). The increased beam intensity in my experience off-sets the need for more raw lumens in outdoor settings. The SR-9L will run for a good 45+ minutes on either 2x18500 or 3xCR123s in the same host and is more competent in outdoor applications than any D26 you can run, even though it would only qualify as maybe a 160 "surefire lumen" light.

Everything I have mentioned above can be ordered through lighthound. If you decide to do a 18mm diameter li-ion setup, you will need to make sure that the 1xCR123 extensions that they sell are cut to 19mm inside diameter, some out there are and some aren't. Also, you would need to pick up a charger if you go with a li-ion rechargeable setup, and personally, I don't much care for the li-ion chargers they have available there at this time. I would suggest doing some more poking around on CPF if you are leaning in that rechargeable direction and see where you can turn to get something decent.

Let me know if I have totally just added a heap of confusion here.

Eric

SP-9, HO-9L powered by 2X18500 AW Li-ions: with 2 batteries and 1 extra LA, just over $100 from Lighhound, delivered.

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im looking for an incan to add to my collection... id like something with around 200-300 OTF lumen under $60 and possible to edc in my pocket preferably running on cr123 or aa/aaa

anyone have any light to shed on my application lol
what about if we jump to 150-200 lumen

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1- Incand
2- 135 OTF lumens for 60 minutes or 250 lumens (1499) for 25 minutes
3- Possible to edc
4- Runs on 3 CR123A or 2 17500
5- Price of $60~$65[/size]
 
Lighthound.com has L2 "empty" hosts (no lamp or LED module is included): $12.99.

This should be your starting point as it's a known reasonable quality host at a great price. The host will support tons of D26 drop-ins and different battery configurations through extensions and such.

You should consider a 3xCR123 length setup to achieve the output you are after if you are really wanting to run CR123s (that will require a 1xCR123 extention). Look at your rechargeable options if at all possible. Operating a 200+ lumen incan on CR123s will get expensive fast unless you don't plan to use it much. A 2xIMR16340 setup without the extension can actually do anything the 3xCR123 configuration can do safely and more, just with less runtime, but it's rechargeable. ~200-300 torch lumens is attainable in that 2xIMR16340 config, but runtime will be down in the 10 minute range. The EO-9 will deliver over 200 torch lumens fresh off the charger, or with fresh cells, through the discharge you can expect to drop below the 200 mark at some time.

Personally, I would shoot for a 2x18500 (AW protected) (same as the 3xCR123 length configuration) size light. Also, personally, I'd slap a D36 conversion head on there from LumensFactory and run something like the SR-9L, maybe the HO-9L or something like that. Those lamps on a pair of 18500s are just really great outdoors and move lumens down-wind so much better than D26 lamps. (peak beam lux of a D36 lamp assembly is on average more than double an equivalent power D26 lamp). The increased beam intensity in my experience off-sets the need for more raw lumens in outdoor settings. The SR-9L will run for a good 45+ minutes on either 2x18500 or 3xCR123s in the same host and is more competent in outdoor applications than any D26 you can run, even though it would only qualify as maybe a 160 "surefire lumen" light.

Everything I have mentioned above can be ordered through lighthound. If you decide to do a 18mm diameter li-ion setup, you will need to make sure that the 1xCR123 extensions that they sell are cut to 19mm inside diameter, some out there are and some aren't. Also, you would need to pick up a charger if you go with a li-ion rechargeable setup, and personally, I don't much care for the li-ion chargers they have available there at this time. I would suggest doing some more poking around on CPF if you are leaning in that rechargeable direction and see where you can turn to get something decent.

Let me know if I have totally just added a heap of confusion here.

Eric


ill look into that... what about cabelas incans? anyone try those they have a 180 lumen model for $54

and also i was thinking about buying a 9p or some other 3x cr123/rcr123 host

im still learning every day lol what drop in fits an l2?
 
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ill look into that... what about cabelas incans? anyone try those they have a 180 lumen model for $54

and also i was thinking about buying a 9p or some other 3x cr123/rcr123 host

im still learning every day lol what drop in fits an l2?

I have a 9V XPG with their 'turbo head'. Like I said, a poor man's M3.
 
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