*2016* ZebraLight SC63 and variants like the SC63w

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Glock27 said:
can't wait to pre-order a high CRI variant.
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That will be the light to end all lights for me! As long as the output is there, unlike the huge drop of the SC62w>SC62d.

Seems too good to be true, so I'm not expecting it to happen even though ZL is sort of working on it.
 
It would be cool if ZL offered some sort of rubbery grip that slipped over the concave smooth section and would stay put... the concave walls may help it stay put.
 
The output drop from SC62w to SC62D never bothered me. After about 10 minutes, the PID drops the output to about 50-60%, which nets the SC62W at closer around 450-550 lumens. For long term tasks like hiking and/or using it throughout the day, I value the constant guaranteed lumen output for 3+ hours.

I'll be interested in the high mode of the new SC63 model that doesn't have PID. I hope it's at least comparable to the older SC62w, where it's 300+ lumens for near 4 hours.
 
I (personally) cannot understand why more lumens is such an obsession in most of the threads on this forum. At 60 years of age a diffuse 100 lumen beam is more than enough to fully light up the world in front of me at a camp site (in the tent, 0.5 lumens). Bright flashlights completely destroy any night vision one has. The brighter the beam the worse it gets and we instantly become victims of the dark. We are driven by the need to turn night into day, conquer and alter mother nature (meanwhile, pissing off all the nocturnal animals, (but who really cares about that anymore)) in order to assert our technical prowess and address our fear of the dark. In the process, we miss the benefit and enjoyment of a peaceful moment sitting at a mountain lake in complete darkness. There is just so much more than just beam intensity. For me, a diffuse, high CRI, warm 4000k light (what the laws of nature chose for the moon for some reason we do not yet fully understand) gets me out there and back repeatedly, all on one battery. From the perspective of survival a strategy using 1000-plus lumen lights, announcing your presence to everyone within a two mile radius, while burning through 18650’s like no tomorrow just does not make sense.
 
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twistedraven said:
The output drop from SC62w to SC62D never bothered me. After about 10 minutes, the PID drops the output to about 50-60%, which nets the SC62W at closer around 450-550 lumens. For long term tasks like hiking and/or using it throughout the day, I value the constant guaranteed lumen output for 3+ hours.

I'll be interested in the high mode of the new SC63 model that doesn't have PID. I hope it's at least comparable to the older SC62w, where it's 300+ lumens for near 4 hours.
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Yes, but 326lm for 3.9hr is also an option on the SC62w. Then IF I need it, I can use the higher mode for a quick shot here and there. I like having it all in one light.
 
Lumencrazy said:
I (personally) cannot understand why more lumens is such an obsession in most of the threads on this forum. At 60 years of age a diffuse 100 lumen beam is more than enough to fully light up the world in front of me at a camp site (in the tent, 0.5 lumens).
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I've used the 1020lm and especially 620lm modes in the past when hiking at night. It's a nice option instead of reaching for another light. Especially when I'm hiking alone at night (99% of the time) in a new area, it doesn't hurt to have some quick "daylight".

I'll probably be using it this weekend. Arriving at the trailhead around 10PM after driving 5 hours. 16" of snow on the ground. Trucking thru the woods on snowshoes looking for a place to hang the hammock and setup camp...I'll take my H600w which can give me anything from .01 to 1020lm
 
markr6 said:
Yes, but 326lm for 3.9hr is also an option on the SC62w. Then IF I need it, I can use the higher mode for a quick shot here and there. I like having it all in one light.
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I could not agree with you more. I have more lights than I need including the awesome Armytek ViKing/Predator Pro V2.5’s. But the one I use 99% of the time (after trying them al) even when wilderness camping, is my SC62w. Don’t get me wrong, ocassionaly I will crank it up. But 99% of the time it runs somewhere at or below the 321Lm level. Time for a 63, hopefully in a high CRI version (it looks more durable around the bezel). Seeing color really helps when digging through your backpack in the dark looking for those red/brown color socks. So far, the Sc62w has been an awesome light!!!!!
 
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Like the new design, but the only problem I can see is there isn't enough room to attach a diffuser tip like I can on the SC62. I don't use it that much, but just an observation.
 
Lumencrazy said:
I (personally) cannot understand why more lumens is such an obsession in most of the threads on this forum. At 60 years of age a diffuse 100 lumen beam is more than enough to fully light up the world in front of me at a camp site (in the tent, 0.5 lumens). Bright flashlights completely destroy any night vision one has. The brighter the beam the worse it gets and we instantly become victims of the dark. We are driven by the need to turn night into day, conquer and alter mother nature (meanwhile, pissing off all the nocturnal animals, (but who really cares about that anymore)) in order to assert our technical prowess and address our fear of the dark. In the process, we miss the benefit and enjoyment of a peaceful moment sitting at a mountain lake in complete darkness. There is just so much more than just beam intensity. For me, a diffuse, high CRI, warm 4000k light (what the laws of nature chose for the moon for some reason we do not yet fully understand) gets me out there and back repeatedly, all on one battery. From the perspective of survival a strategy using 1000-plus lumen lights, announcing your presence to everyone within a two mile radius, while burning through 18650’s like no tomorrow just does not make sense.
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Relevant username. :sssh:
 
markr6 said:
Yes, but 326lm for 3.9hr is also an option on the SC62w. Then IF I need it, I can use the higher mode for a quick shot here and there. I like having it all in one light.
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I also keep my Zebralights second high at the 300 plus lumens setting. If needed it is very easy to adjust the secondary high setting to the other two options. :thumbsup:
 
I also think it's nice to have a burst turbo as well, but upon receiving the H600FD, I find myself not using the highest high as much as I thought I would. I keep it on the 255 lumen setting.

What I'm really after is just higher lumens and longer runtimes and higher CRI out of the high without the PID.
 
Lumencrazy said:
I (personally) cannot understand why more lumens is such an obsession in most of the threads on this forum. At 60 years of age a diffuse 100 lumen beam is more than enough to fully light up the world in front of me at a camp site (in the tent, 0.5 lumens). Bright flashlights completely destroy any night vision one has. The brighter the beam the worse it gets and we instantly become victims of the dark. We are driven by the need to turn night into day, conquer and alter mother nature (meanwhile, pissing off all the nocturnal animals, (but who really cares about that anymore)) in order to assert our technical prowess and address our fear of the dark. In the process, we miss the benefit and enjoyment of a peaceful moment sitting at a mountain lake in complete darkness. There is just so much more than just beam intensity. For me, a diffuse, high CRI, warm 4000k light (what the laws of nature chose for the moon for some reason we do not yet fully understand) gets me out there and back repeatedly, all on one battery. From the perspective of survival a strategy using 1000-plus lumen lights, announcing your presence to everyone within a two mile radius, while burning through 18650’s like no tomorrow just does not make sense.
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What if my survival strategy is to blaze a light saber of light into the sky so I will be noticed and rescued? :)
 
I am waiting for a light I can use to weld. In the meantime give me brighter and brighter lights.

(Actually, on my lights with a 1000 lumen mode, I rarely use it. And 200 is usually plenty for even a task I want a lot of light on. I often use the moonlight modes.)
 
Lumencrazy said:
I (personally) cannot understand why more lumens is such an obsession in most of the threads on this forum. At 60 years of age a diffuse 100 lumen beam is more than enough to fully light up the world in front of me at a camp site (in the tent, 0.5 lumens). Bright flashlights completely destroy any night vision one has. The brighter the beam the worse it gets and we instantly become victims of the dark. We are driven by the need to turn night into day, conquer and alter mother nature (meanwhile, pissing off all the nocturnal animals, (but who really cares about that anymore)) in order to assert our technical prowess and address our fear of the dark. In the process, we miss the benefit and enjoyment of a peaceful moment sitting at a mountain lake in complete darkness. There is just so much more than just beam intensity. For me, a diffuse, high CRI, warm 4000k light (what the laws of nature chose for the moon for some reason we do not yet fully understand) gets me out there and back repeatedly, all on one battery. From the perspective of survival a strategy using 1000-plus lumen lights, announcing your presence to everyone within a two mile radius, while burning through 18650’s like no tomorrow just does not make sense.
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We do things other than camp out in the wilderness.
 
I think Lumencrazy makes a good point.
Unless you need to light up a rather large area, light up something from far away, or light up a rather large area from far away, you really don't NEED that many lumens, though you might THINK so or WANT so.
Constantly blazing away when you don't NEED to is wasteful and can be couterproductive, or just plain stupid.
BUT, it is comforting to know that you can call on a lot of light in case you NEED to.
 
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